Re: Who is the most overrated boxer since 2000?
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Originally Posted by Paa Vandring med Mesteren
I would suggest Jeff Lacy, Samuel Peter and Bernard Hopkins.
I agree with Peter but Bernard Hopkins is not overrated at all. He is one of the few greats of our time. I dont even see how you would come up with his name on a post like this.
Most overrated since 2000 = Wladimir Klitschko (although since training with Steward I will say he's improved a lot), Antonio Margarito (really what awesome fighters has he fought...at least Hatton fought Tzu), Nicolai Valuev, Calvin Brock, Manfredo Jr.,
Re: Who is the most overrated boxer since 2000?
peter isnt overrated he floored the best hw at moment 3 times and took him to full 12 which not many can say they have done
Re: Who is the most overrated boxer since 2000?
i would say sergio mora but hes the undisputed most overrated boxer ever.
Re: Who is the most overrated boxer since 2000?
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
peter isnt overrated he floored the best hw at moment 3 times and took him to full 12 which not many can say they have done
He floored my #1 pick for the most overrated fighter since 2000 three times and the man with the notoriously glass jaw. I give him props but he couldnt finish the fight and lost one he shoulda won easy with his early performance. He is definitely an overrated piece of shit compared to some of the talent we have had over the years. I doubt he would beat a prime Trevor Berbick, Michael Spinks or Tim Witherspoon.
Re: Who is the most overrated boxer since 2000?
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
peter isnt overrated he floored the best hw at moment 3 times and took him to full 12 which not many can say they have done
You mean "the best heavyweight right now"...at the moment, Wlad was viewed as damaged goods and was seen as a stepping stone for Peter to jump up to the title contention level
Sam Peter isn't overrated...he's decent but no world beater
Calvin Brock isn't overrated he lasted 7 rounds with Wladimir Klitschko...that's good for a guy who hadn't ever fought such a tough puncher before
Valuev....I agree, he's a bum
Wlad is not overrated! He's the best heavyweight out there right now
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I'll give them to you by division
Heavyweight-Nicolay Valuev
Crusierweight-Jean-Marc Mormeck
Light Heavyweight-Clinton Woods
Super Middleweight-Joe Calzaghe
Middleweight-Sam Soliman
Junior Middleweight-Roman Karmazin
Welterweight-Antonio Margarito
Junior Welterweight-Junior Witter
Lightweight-Juan Diaz
Junior Lightweight-Joan Guzman
Featherweight-Scott Harrison
Junior Featherweight-Sergio Medina
Bantamweight-Silence Mabuza
Junior Bantamweight-Jose Navarro
Flyweight-Vic Darchinyan
Junior Flyweight-Brian Viloria
Strawweight-Rodel Mayol
The ones in bold are ridiculously overrated
Re: Who is the most overrated boxer since 2000?
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
peter isnt overrated he floored the best hw at moment 3 times and took him to full 12 which not many can say they have done
You mean "the best heavyweight right now"...at the moment, Wlad was viewed as damaged goods and was seen as a stepping stone for Peter to jump up to the title contention level
Sam Peter isn't overrated...he's decent but no world beater
Calvin Brock isn't overrated he lasted 7 rounds with Wladimir Klitschko...that's good for a guy who hadn't ever fought such a tough puncher before
Valuev....I agree, he's a bum
Wlad is not overrated! He's the best heavyweight out there right now
Wlad would be the favorite against all other boxers all time dispite his brother. He would rape Ali or Rocky.
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I'll give them to you by division
Heavyweight-Nicolay Valuev
Crusierweight-Jean-Marc Mormeck
Light Heavyweight-Clinton Woods
Super Middleweight-Joe Calzaghe
Middleweight-Sam Soliman
Junior Middleweight-Roman Karmazin
Welterweight-Antonio Margarito
Junior Welterweight-Junior Witter
Lightweight-Juan Diaz
Junior Lightweight-Joan Guzman
Featherweight-Scott Harrison
Junior Featherweight-Sergio Medina
Bantamweight-Silence Mabuza
Junior Bantamweight-Jose Navarro
Flyweight-Vic Darchinyan
Junior Flyweight-Brian Viloria
Strawweight-Rodel Mayol
The ones in bold are ridiculously overrated
agreed with antonio by why calzaghe if anything he is underrated since having that off night against bika
Re: Who is the most overrated boxer since 2000?
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Originally Posted by Paa Vandring med Mesteren
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
peter isnt overrated he floored the best hw at moment 3 times and took him to full 12 which not many can say they have done
You mean "the best heavyweight right now"...at the moment, Wlad was viewed as damaged goods and was seen as a stepping stone for Peter to jump up to the title contention level
Sam Peter isn't overrated...he's decent but no world beater
Calvin Brock isn't overrated he lasted 7 rounds with Wladimir Klitschko...that's good for a guy who hadn't ever fought such a tough puncher before
Valuev....I agree, he's a bum
Wlad is not overrated! He's the best heavyweight out there right now
Wlad would be the favorite against all other boxers all time dispite his brother. He would rape Ali or Rocky.
what ??????????? ali would batter wlad and rocky would ko the glass jaw wlad
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I'm not comparing Wlad to any all-time greats
I'm just saying Wlad is not overrated!
VD I agree with your list, though perhaps Antonio Tarver instead of Woods at light heavy
Re: Who is the most overrated boxer since 2000?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I'll give them to you by division
Heavyweight-Nicolay Valuev
Crusierweight-Jean-Marc Mormeck
Light Heavyweight-Clinton Woods
Super Middleweight-Joe Calzaghe
Middleweight-Sam Soliman
Junior Middleweight-Roman Karmazin
Welterweight-Antonio Margarito
Junior Welterweight-Junior Witter
Lightweight-Juan Diaz
Junior Lightweight-Joan Guzman
Featherweight-Scott Harrison
Junior Featherweight-Sergio Medina
Bantamweight-Silence Mabuza
Junior Bantamweight-Jose Navarro
Flyweight-Vic Darchinyan
Junior Flyweight-Brian Viloria
Strawweight-Rodel Mayol
The ones in bold are ridiculously overrated
woods is good fighter he beat glen johnson who koed roy jones yes i know not prime one but still good win woods is good fighter not overrated by any means and why is scott harrison overrated ??
Re: Who is the most overrated boxer since 2000?
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
peter isnt overrated he floored the best hw at moment 3 times and took him to full 12 which not many can say they have done
You mean "the best heavyweight right now"...at the moment, Wlad was viewed as damaged goods and was seen as a stepping stone for Peter to jump up to the title contention level
Sam Peter isn't overrated...he's decent but no world beater
Calvin Brock isn't overrated he lasted 7 rounds with Wladimir Klitschko...that's good for a guy who hadn't ever fought such a tough puncher before
Valuev....I agree, he's a bum
Wlad is not overrated! He's the best heavyweight out there right now
Brock was definitely overrated. I heard all this talk about he was the next great champ blah blah blah. He looked like shit against WK. Stood in front of him the whole night and waited to get knocked out. Wlad is the best heavyweight right now out there but i still think he's overrated; he is the best of a crop of lackluster talents... him and his brother are both highly overrated IMO cuz people keep comparin them to ali to foreman and other greats who would have mopped the ring with them. Larry Merchant blows that guy up like there is no tomorrow...did u hear when he was all, "...and now Madison Square Garden will await the entrance of this huge, beautiful man..." I was like wow Larry. You must really be on this guy's nuts...
Re: Who is the most overrated boxer since 2000?
Ricky Hatton. Especially on this board. One sloppy win against an over-the-hill and inactive Kostya Tszyu and people want to act like he's possibly the #1 p4p fighter in the world, capable of KO'ing Mayweather. Yawn.
On Sam Peter--does anyone really rate the guy well enough to call him overrated? He's probably the #4 or #5 guy in a shite HW division. He's terribly unskilled and probably holds the active boxer rabbit-punching record, but I've never heard anyone say otherwise. And he could probably beat anyone other than Wlad and Toney (who he did not beat last time).
Re: Who is the most overrated boxer since 2000?
Oh, also possibly Vargas. I can't quite remember when people realized that he wasn't really that good--could have been before 2000.
Re: Who is the most overrated boxer since 2000?
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Ricky Hatton.   Especially on this board.  One sloppy win against an over-the-hill and inactive Kostya Tszyu and people want to act like he's possibly the #1 p4p fighter in the world, capable of KO'ing Mayweather.  Yawn.
On Sam Peter--does anyone really rate the guy well enough to call him overrated?  He's probably the #4 or #5 guy in a shite HW division.  He's terribly unskilled and probably holds the active boxer rabbit-punching record, but I've never heard anyone say otherwise.  And he could probably beat anyone other than Wlad and Toney (who he did not beat last time).
people wernt saying he was over the hill before they fought alot of people thought he would take hatton kostya was considered a great and hatton beat him how does that make him overrated ??