Joe Fraizer vs Evander Holyfield who takes it ??

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Originally Posted by Lyle

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

you dont know shyt about boxing if you seriously believe this

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I know plenty about boxing pussy cat and I know Evander had the style, size, and heart to beat Tyson


You act like Tyson was really "in the fight" vs Holyfield...Evander never had trouble with him...Tyson had his flurries but Holyfield wasn't too bothered with him

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please watch the fifth round when tyson had him staggered, that was thew only time we saw the real tyson, the real tyson would of had holy out in 10

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Originally Posted by Taeth

Tyson wasn't at his best when he fought Evander, but regardless he was still bigger, stronger, and faster than Frazier, and still he couldn't really penetrate Evander's defense... I think Evander would be too big, and too fundementally skilled for Frazier to beat him... He would be sharper on the inside, and far too much superior on the outside. When Tyson or Lewis did hit Evander he didn't go down though they both hurt him at points in their fights they both hit as hard as Foreman if not harder, and Frazier doesn't even come close to them in punching power so I don't think he could hurt Evander with anything but bodyshots. Though Evander doesn't hit as hard as Frazier I believe he is faster, stronger, and a better than Joe Frazier technically by enough to win this inside 12 rounds.

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holyfield wasnt in his prime either

Even if he wasn't that just furthers my point that Evander is too good for Frazier... He would hold Frazier every time Frazier would get in, and when he knew that he could beat Frazier on the inside he would trade with him until he knocked Frazier down or out.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

Even if he wasn't that just furthers my point that Evander is too good for Frazier... He would hold Frazier every time Frazier would get in, and when he knew that he could beat Frazier on the inside he would trade with him until he knocked Frazier down or out.

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yea u maybe could be right but when i think about this match up i always think about bert cooper vs holyfield and that makes me maybe think twice and i think to myself if cooper could do that could fraizer do it but finish holyfield off ??

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Tyson was nowhere near as good as Joe Frazier!

Joe Frazier beats Evander by decision

Evander would have ALWAYS beaten Mike Tyson

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you dont know shyt about boxing if you seriously believe this

Holyfield is tougher then Tyson ever thought of being, and I believe Holyfield would have won at anytime of Tysons career. So I guess I don't know shit either

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Originally Posted by stebs

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Tyson was nowhere near as good as Joe Frazier!

Joe Frazier beats Evander by decision

Evander would have ALWAYS beaten Mike Tyson

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you dont know shyt about boxing if you seriously believe this

Holyfield is tougher then Tyson ever thought of being, and I believe Holyfield would have won at anytime of Tysons career. So I guess I don't know S*** either

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i guess you dont, but thanks for at least admitting it


and i dont sc people, cause thats pretty fucking ghey (except my ex got a sc for putting a poem on this forum, courtesy of me)

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

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Originally Posted by stebs

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Tyson was nowhere near as good as Joe Frazier!

Joe Frazier beats Evander by decision

Evander would have ALWAYS beaten Mike Tyson

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you dont know shyt about boxing if you seriously believe this

Holyfield is tougher then Tyson ever thought of being, and I believe Holyfield would have won at anytime of Tysons career. So I guess I don't know S*** either

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i guess you dont, but thanks for at least admitting it


and i dont sc people, cause thats pretty fucking ghey (except my ex got a sc for putting a poem on this forum, courtesy of me)

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I've never given a sad click, but in one sentence you say don't give them because it's gay then you say you have given one courtesy of you, so my question for you, are you gay and did your boyfriend post you a poem.?

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Originally Posted by stebs

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

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Originally Posted by stebs

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Tyson was nowhere near as good as Joe Frazier!

Joe Frazier beats Evander by decision

Evander would have ALWAYS beaten Mike Tyson

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you dont know shyt about boxing if you seriously believe this

Holyfield is tougher then Tyson ever thought of being, and I believe Holyfield would have won at anytime of Tysons career. So I guess I don't know S*** either

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i guess you dont, but thanks for at least admitting it


and i dont sc people, cause thats pretty F****** ghey (except my ex got a sc for putting a poem on this forum, courtesy of me)

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I've never given a sad click, but in one sentence you say don't give them because it's gay then you say you have given one courtesy of you, so my question for you, are you gay and did your boyfriend post you a poem.?

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my bad....... i was breezing through this thread and on page 1 i thought you said that i gave you a sc and you would return it.
but after checking again, i read a little closer where you said u WONT return the sc that you thought i had given you (i didnt)

and the poem is my ex gf that got moved to the "lets get it on forum" who hasnt heard from me in a while.

she just knew where to find me, i guess

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Originally Posted by Taeth

Tyson wasn't at his best when he fought Evander, but regardless he was still bigger, stronger, and faster than Frazier, and still he couldn't really penetrate Evander's defense... I think Evander would be too big, and too fundementally skilled for Frazier to beat him... He would be sharper on the inside, and far too much superior on the outside. When Tyson or Lewis did hit Evander he didn't go down though they both hurt him at points in their fights they both hit as hard as Foreman if not harder, and Frazier doesn't even come close to them in punching power so I don't think he could hurt Evander with anything but bodyshots. Though Evander doesn't hit as hard as Frazier I believe he is faster, stronger, and a better than Joe Frazier technically by enough to win this inside 12 rounds.

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well said

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Tyson was nowhere near as good as Joe Frazier!

Joe Frazier beats Evander by decision

Evander would have ALWAYS beaten Mike Tyson

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The Tyson who fought Evander would have knocked out Frazier, and the Tyson in his prime had way better defense, power, and speed than Frazier... it would have been no contest(Think Foreman-Frazier 1 minus Tyson getting hit hardly at all, and hitting Frazier way more.)

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Tyson was nowhere near as good as Joe Frazier!

Joe Frazier beats Evander by decision

Evander would have ALWAYS beaten Mike Tyson

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The Tyson who fought Evander would have knocked out Frazier, and the Tyson in his prime had way better defense, power, and speed than Frazier... it would have been no contest(Think Foreman-Frazier 1 minus Tyson getting hit hardly at all, and hitting Frazier way more.)

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i disagree fraizer was excellent fighter had good chin and way more heart than tyson i think fraizer could outgut tyson i see it going this way tyson wins early rounds drops fraizer early but fraizer weathers tysons storm and starts to discourage tyson by fighting back and he stops tyson late

Holyfield picks him off with the jab and 1-2

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Tyson was nowhere near as good as Joe Frazier!

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Evander would Bang with him all night as well...Its a pickem fight all the way..Both of those guys would rather die in the ring than give up....Talking about probably the 2 biggest hearts in Heavyweight history

Your wrong dude....Tyson was Faster, Stronger, better defense...Frazier tried to eat 2-3 to give one..Real bad gameplan against Tyson..Tyson Ko's Frazier by round 3..

Joe Frazier vs Jerry Quarry 1 1969


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joe frazier cause holyfeld lost to Ruiz ;D