Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
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Originally Posted by MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n
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Originally Posted by rrbong
Damn that's straight dumb right there!!, Manny ran up to 130 to avoid Joan everyone knows that, Pac just doesn't want to face up to Joan's speed, Technical brilliance, Defensive astuteness and all out aggression, Not to mention he's unbeaten unlike Pac, What the hell is he gonna prove by beating another old timer AGAIN like Barrer who's already thinking about retirement?!!, You need to kill the "pac groupie act" and catch a clue son cause you mad idle right now!!,
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You're really dreaming. Manny went to 130 to fight better fighters. There was none in the featherweight. And don't you ever disrespect the Pacman.... He had fought all the greatest fighters in the division. Barrera was only considered for retirement when he took a beating from the Pacman.
Right now, nobody had ever beaten Barrera like the way the Pacman did. It just shows that Barrera is still in his prime. Just admit it that Pacman is #1 in the pound for pound list right now. Erik Morales had conceded already.
Nope the FACTS say Floyd Mayweather is 'pound for pound' the best and everyone who loves the game knows that, Don't let your heart rule your head and face up to the fact that Pac has just beat an over the hill fighter and he's scared to fight the unbeaten slickster that is Joan Guzman!!, If he's a real p4p he won't have a problem beating him will he?!!, The Barrer suggestions are farcical purely designed by the Pac groupies to see their boy win another easy fight so they can all hail him "pound for pound" when he clearly isn't,
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You really don't have the sense of knowing the difference between real truth and nominal truth. Where did you get the idea that Guzman ever tried to challenge PACMAN... moreover, where did you get the idea that PACMAN moved up just to evade Guzman. whew!!!! you're ludicrous..... you are not really familiar with boxing.
You're even guilty of what we call in the debate world as "hasty generalization". I can only conclude that you're trying to boost and advertise Guzman .... who is actually a nobody. I believe you were hired to come here and promote Guzman....
Bad....
Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Pac has improved since their first encounter and like I said JMM and MAB are skilled too whereas who has Guzman faced for you to even think he could beat Pac. Yeah he can shoulder roll and that looks great against Barrios but Pac will punch through his shoulder with his short accurate powerful punches.And it's not just a few new pnches,go and watch the fight properly..he had head mvement,jab,bodywork,right hand(used it to hook and counter). I havent even heard Guzman call out Pc let alone say Pac is ducking him so wtf are you talking about? Do you even know who Joan is fighting next?!
And to compare PAC TO gATTI...says it all really...... ::** ???
Lol Manny's technical abilty is so poor that you're all writing down every new thing he did tonight!!, You can study it all you want but he still ain't touching Guzman's technical ability, Manny had the chance to fight Joan at the lower weights and decided to move up, That to me means he's ducking Joan, You depict Pac as untouchable but it's been proved he can be beaten by a skilled boxer, At the end of the day Guzman is the unbeaten one and holds a belt, Pac needs to put the notion that he's scared of Joan to bed and fight him it's as simple as that, Pac fighting Barrer again would be the biggest joke in the game,
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Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
This notion only exists in your head,I bet even Guzman does not think it which is why I have neither seen nor heard him mention either Pac ducking him or wanting to fight Pac. If you don't have any proof,stop whining. This is all I have to say on this matter.(ajnd I'm not just going by this fight,pac looked good against EM in the 2nd fight,showed some new moves against Larios and looked even better against EM last night).
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whew this is really a paid post courtesy of Guzman. To all the fans of Morales and Barrera and Now of Pacquaio..... Don't mind this person and don't mind about his unknown boxer (who is not in the pound for pound list).
Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
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Originally Posted by rrbong
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Originally Posted by MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n
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Originally Posted by rrbong
Damn that's straight dumb right there!!, Manny ran up to 130 to avoid Joan everyone knows that, Pac just doesn't want to face up to Joan's speed, Technical brilliance, Defensive astuteness and all out aggression, Not to mention he's unbeaten unlike Pac, What the hell is he gonna prove by beating another old timer AGAIN like Barrer who's already thinking about retirement?!!, You need to kill the "pac groupie act" and catch a clue son cause you mad idle right now!!,
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You're really dreaming. Manny went to 130 to fight better fighters. There was none in the featherweight. And don't you ever disrespect the Pacman.... He had fought all the greatest fighters in the division. Barrera was only considered for retirement when he took a beating from the Pacman.
Right now, nobody had ever beaten Barrera like the way the Pacman did. It just shows that Barrera is still in his prime. Just admit it that Pacman is #1 in the pound for pound list right now. Erik Morales had conceded already.
Nope the FACTS say Floyd Mayweather is 'pound for pound' the best and everyone who loves the game knows that, Don't let your heart rule your head and face up to the fact that Pac has just beat an over the hill fighter and he's scared to fight the unbeaten slickster that is Joan Guzman!!, If he's a real p4p he won't have a problem beating him will he?!!, The Barrer suggestions are farcical purely designed by the Pac groupies to see their boy win another easy fight so they can all hail him "pound for pound" when he clearly isn't,
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You really don't have the sense of knowing the difference between real truth and nominal truth. Where did you get the idea that Guzman ever tried to challenge PACMAN... moreover, where did you get the idea that PACMAN moved up just to evade Guzman. whew!!!! you're ludicrous..... you are not really familiar with boxing.
You're even guilty of what we call in the debate world as "hasty generalization". I can only conclude that you're trying to boost and advertise Guzman .... who is actually a nobody. I believe you were hired to come here and promote Guzman....
Bad....
To be honest as soon as you suggested Pac was "pound for pound" it was clear you were a massive Pac groupie who's unable to dabate anything concerning the man in a reasonable fashion, Your incompetence shined through from the outset and i'm inclined to suggest you actually go and see Guzman fight before passing further comment to provent making even more of an ass out of yourself,
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Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
So you're saying Manny isn't P4P?
Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
So you're saying Manny isn't P4P?
At last a post without abuse!!, I don't think Pac is anywhere near Floyds class, Winkys certainly better and so is Taylor, I personally think Guzman is better as you already know but He'd be in the top 12 i guess :D,
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Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
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Originally Posted by MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
So you're saying Manny isn't P4P?
At last a post without abuse!!, I don't think Pac is anywhere near Floyds class, Winkys certainly better and so is Taylor, I personally think Guzman is better as you already know but He'd be in the top 12 i guess :D,
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Bro,no one has abused you,they have questioned you and rightfully so when you make statments like yours without any basis on fact,however I do apologise if I sounded rude in any earlier posts.
Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
what a guzman nuthugger! youre a perfect example of a delusional fan...if youre a true boxing fan,you wont even refer to morales as over-the-hill out of respect...if there is someone who has a chance of beating pac should be jmm..guzman? got no power since moving up..technique? wont . even compare him to jmm..what a retard... :)
Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
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Originally Posted by mugabi saad
what a guzman fan! youre a perfect example of a delusional fan...if youre a true boxing fan,you wont even refer to morales as over-the-hill out of respect...if there is someone who has a chance of beating pac should be jmm..guzman? got no power since moving up..technique? wont . even compare him to jmm..what a retard... :)
very true. no respect for morales, barrera and pacquaio....what a shame!!!
Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
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Originally Posted by mugabi saad
what a guzman fan! youre a perfect example of a delusional fan...if youre a true boxing fan,you wont even refer to morales as over-the-hill out of respect...if there is someone who has a chance of beating pac should be jmm..guzman? got no power since moving up..technique? wont . even compare him to jmm..what a retard... :)
You see El gamo?, This is the type of uninformed deluded fool i was talking about, Why the hell should i show "respect" for Morales?, I don't know the cat and i'm not a fan, I just call it how i see it it's not my fault you wanna get all emotional over it!! lol, Take your head out of pac's ass and look at what's going on in the game Mugabi (what a stupid name), There's fighters out there that will beat Pac and Guzman is one of them,
Your refusal to see Joan as a genuine threat is childish in the extreme
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Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
Hello MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n,
So, we've established you are a very, very, very big admirer of Joan Guzman. And yes, he does look like a talented fighter. But please don't feel the need to tell us again. Point taken. Loud and clear.
PS. Are you Joan Guzman?
Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
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Originally Posted by Vintage
Hello MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n,
So, we've established you are a very, very, very big admirer of Joan Guzman. And yes, he does look like a talented fighter. But please don't feel the need to tell us again. Point taken. Loud and clear.
PS. Are you Joan Guzman?
Are the pac groupies here part of pac's camp?, Are the Morales groupies part of the Morales camp?, Everyone has their favorites and just because i refuse to agree with other people's floored notions that doesn't make me wrong, Even the prophets had detractors
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Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
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Originally Posted by Vintage
Hello MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n,
So, we've established you are a very, very, very big admirer of Joan Guzman. And yes, he does look like a talented fighter. But please don't feel the need to tell us again. Point taken. Loud and clear.
PS. Are you Joan Guzman?
LOL....... I agree that he is a talented fighter. But, of course if compared to P4P fighters, fighters like Guzman are amateurs who feel like a pro.... in layman's term.... daydreamers!!!!
Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
i think a barrera fight is better. maybe not better for pacman but better for barrera. he needs to give barrera another chance
