Re: Can Barrera beat Pacquiao ?
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Originally Posted by ssevony
on their first fight, pacman just beat MAB down with his left hand and now that he got the right hook working, it would be even easier than the first fight. HBO guys are just full of crap sometimes. on their first fight, they clearly said MAB should retire and the fighting style was just overmatched. but now they're saying pacman would have some trouble against MAB, are u kidding me?? what makes them think MAB would be better than the first fight? he's couple of years older and slower. Pacman is just too strong and fast for him. MAB just couldnt see those lefts coming. it'll be exactly the same results. i rather watch pacman against JMM. i think that fight was more unsettled. lets see what happens if JMM doesnt get knocked down 3 times in a round
I agree with you to a certain point, True Marco did get a beating from Manny a few years back but, you got 2 analyze and realize that Marco is not the same fighter. In my view he has improved alot since the Pacman fight I mean just look at all his fight's since then, he is a way more versed fighter,boxer,brawler he can do it all. And he is pretty damn good at it too he can counter, lead and adjust to each fight. While Manny has also improve alot he uses both arms now he doesn't rely so much on his left so he is more well rounded in that sence too but, I don't think he is gonna be able to beat on Marco. Barrera is just a much better fighter than Manny expect Marco to use the same kind of agressive toe to toe type of counter punchin in wich Marquez handed a beating to Manny a few years ago. I think this fight will be alot like The Winky vs Trinidad fight were Marco will use his superior Technique to beat Manny and frustrate him. ;D
Re: Can Barrera beat Pacquiao ?
MAB is getting on. He has been in too many wars.
PAC Man young, fast and strong.
PAC can beat MAB.
Who is the third mexican legend fighting at the moment?
Re: Can Barrera beat Pacquiao ?
Re: Can Barrera beat Pacquiao ?
Very few seem to be giving Barrera a chance, and that is very understandable in the wake of the 3 round demolition of Morales. IMO Barrera has a lot more left in his tank than Morales and more fundmentally is able to hold back from going to war and stick to a boxing plan. Morales fought admirably this time in terms of going down swinging, but it was the completely WRONG way to try and beat a Pac who can very well beat you to the punch...
Barrera can beat Pac, but the fight needs to happen sooner rather than later...
Re: Can Barrera beat Pacquiao ?
JMM is the only one... MAB had his chance.
Re: Can Barrera beat Pacquiao ?
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Originally Posted by miles
Very few seem to be giving Barrera a chance, and that is very understandable in the wake of the 3 round demolition of Morales.
I was going on Barrera's first fight with pac, he couldnt box him because pac was all over him. I also think pac has improved since then.
Re: Can Barrera beat Pacquiao ?
[color=blue]No fcking way man! Maybe he can beat pacquiao at the ps2 game fight night if he play that game!
Re: Can Barrera beat Pacquiao ?
MAB beat JMM init?
PacMan could even move to lightweight and dominate there.
welterweight if he is up for it!
Just think: Ricky Hatton Vs Pac Man!
8) ;D
Re: Can Barrera beat Pacquiao ?
I think unlike Morrales, Barrera has more left for some reason. He boxed well against Juarez who hits probably harder than Pacquaio, but is nowhere near as skilled or quick. However Barrera chances are pretty minimal right now because I don't think he can go to war with Pacquiao like he may have been able to earlier in his career.
Re: Can Barrera beat Pacquiao ?
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Originally Posted by Taeth
I think unlike Morrales, Barrera has more left for some reason. He boxed well against Juarez who hits probably harder than Pacquaio, but is nowhere near as skilled or quick. However Barrera chances are pretty minimal right now because I don't think he can go to war with Pacquiao like he may have been able to earlier in his career.
Good points, CC
For me a rematch is about Barrera using a safety first approach in order to bag early rounds. Barrera will know exactly what he is in with this time out and I would expect him to fight with this much in mind.
Pac has got better. No doubts about this. But a rematch would be a different ball game entirely IMO, no 3 round blowouts against MAB!! ;)
Re: Can Barrera beat Pacquiao ?
By the looks of it most people are going with Pacquiao on this, and I’d say that’s the safe bet. On the other hand I also agree that Barrera has a little more left than Morrales, but it’s going to be extremely difficult for Barrera to win.
Yes Barrera is a modern legend like Morales, but Pacquiao will be non-stop relentless attack, the only way I see Barrera winning is by keeping his distance and punishing Pacquiao with counters and not get drawn into a toe to toe encounter.
Allthough if Barrera manages to keep his distance and frustrate Pacquiao and hurt him a few times with sharp precise counters and body shots, he well could afford to go toe to toe in rounds 11 and 12 as they only way Barrera will win is by points decision.
That’s my case for Barrera.
My heart says Barrera can do it, but my head says Pacquiao.
Re: Can Barrera beat Pacquiao ?
Marquez,Nope....Barrera another nope.Pac just too strong.
Re: Can Barrera beat Pacquiao ?
The right time for barrera to beat Pac was right after hes last and final win over Morales, to me barrera was P4P No1 in the world then. Ill rate a prime barrera and morales over Pac atn, unless pac keeps doing these special proformances over prime fighters ill reconsider.
But right now, pac seems in his prime, fast, strong, hungry as hell...
You could see the difference in barrera with his first fight with Rocky, and then his second, I question if he has the heart and hunger anymore? can he go to war one more time?
I think he cans till beat him. But he will have to want it more than lifes it self andget back to his old ways.
Re: Can Barrera beat Pacquiao ?
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Originally Posted by Realitycheck77
By the looks of it most people are going with Pacquiao on this, and I’d say that’s the safe bet. On the other hand I also agree that Barrera has a little more left than Morrales, but it’s going to be extremely difficult for Barrera to win.
Yes Barrera is a modern legend like Morales, but Pacquiao will be non-stop relentless attack, the only way I see Barrera winning is by keeping his distance and punishing Pacquiao with counters and not get drawn into a toe to toe encounter.
Allthough if Barrera manages to keep his distance and frustrate Pacquiao and hurt him a few times with sharp precise counters and body shots, he well could afford to go toe to toe in rounds 11 and 12 as they only way Barrera will win is by points decision.
That’s my case for Barrera.
My heart says Barrera can do it, but my head says Pacquiao.
The recent win for Pac was very impressive, but lets get it into a little perspective. Pac beat a Morales who hasnt fought in a year and a morales who was coming off of a first stoppage. Instead of raising his will to box, he sought to trade and came off the worse again. A stategic kamikaze from the off. Morales fought a very flawed fight.
MAB has a more in the tank. Has watched Pac since their last fight and focussed on his ability to box. MAB can adapt more than Morales and resist the urge to please the crowd.
Its not about my heart, my head says MAB can beat Pac...
Re: Can Barrera beat Pacquiao ?
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Originally Posted by Realitycheck77
That’s my case for Barrera.
My heart says Barrera can do it, but my head says Pacquiao.
manny pac, eric morales, or barrera are pound-for-pound over any other fighters. manny's first. i'd love to see eric move up and meet mayweather at 154
