WHAT???
top 3 pound per pound fighters are
1) Nicolai Valuev
2) James Toney
3) Laila Ali (ok shes not very good but she's cute and i kinda dig her)
now pash teh eggnog!
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WHAT???
top 3 pound per pound fighters are
1) Nicolai Valuev
2) James Toney
3) Laila Ali (ok shes not very good but she's cute and i kinda dig her)
now pash teh eggnog!
As much as I love PAC, PBF is undefeated and totally a well rounded fighter as compared to PAC.
1. PBF
2. PAC
3. Winky
Its completely beyond me how 18 people have voted for Manny to be infront of Mayweather.
pac is #1
talk about recent accomplishment
mab, em twice, draw with jmm only because judge scoring error.
all three names are huge bigger then winkys and pbfs oppenent.
winky is #2
tito, mosley twice draw with j.t
names are close to pacs oppenents but the way pac wins is absolutely dominating, winky is about containing no big finishes.
pbf is #3
baldomir, gatti , judah
talk about inconsistent fighters, if u argue pac got outbox by jmm well pbf was beat to the punch by judah in the first half of the fight til judah ran out of gas.plus there should of been a k.d pbfs glove touched the canvas by a judah punch.
base on talent and potential
pbf is # 1
he still undefeated but recently who's the biggest name on his record? baldomir?...only if pbf had pacs hunger and heart he`d stay in one division til he completely dominates the division...instead he jumps division never fighting the other big names in the division...now a fight against oscar? an old oscar already past prime jst like how pac and winky get bash saying mab em mosley tito were past prime...for sure pbf gets same treatment...keep in mind oscar is not suddenly the great oscar after whooping don kings ginny pig remember oscar should of lost to sturm and got k.oed by bhop...potential and talent pbf #1 but his totally dissapointing.
pac is # 1
closely following pbf, and still we may have not yet since a prime pac...pac has huge punching power both left and right now with blazing speed plus an increasing countering game and showing defensive abbility with head movements...pac of today looks to completely dominate his division without anyone getting in his way.
j.t is #3
young but already put two great names on his record...won against bhop twice, draw with winky...it is very difficult to look good against both bhop and winky but yet young j.t is still undefeated too.
winky not included because his on his prime and only looking to decrease by getting older.
base on excitement
pac hands down #1
no competition pac is great for the sport...we need a pac in every division specially in the heavys...some1 with finishing hunger some1 we never hear about his purse some1 who just wants to eat every oppenents heart and then smiles while doing it...and not giving a damn about abc title just as long as he hears ur great too he will want u next.
in 07 I hope to see pbf beat oscar and go back to welterweights and dominate whoop tony whoop cotto everyone...I like pbf I'm just dissapointed I want him to prove and shut up every doubt...if he remains undefeated after taking on the other hype names in welterweight like hatton cotto tony then he is p4p 1...but a coming prime pac when he beats either jmm or mab or both and takes out hype champs valero and guzman...then we will still have a huge argument wheather pac or pbf gets top spot...but I love both guys just that I'm more dissapointed in pbf recently and he better not retires because a whole dozen of ifs and doubts his going to be leaving behind...and that top spot will be easily ruled by pac without pbf.
Really? How many titles in different weight classes does Wright lay claim to? I'm pretty sure that is what defines you as a pound for pound fighter. Mayweather has won more and done more. That's why he gets my vote for pound for pound fighter of the year, hands down.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Thats not how you define a P4P fighter, by titles... P4P is strctly an opinion and is ussually debated harshly... The way I see it is P4P is quality of opposition and The fashion in which you win... Along with being consistant... You can win titles and not be P4P... Infact I can name many 1 or 2 time title holders that do not lay claim to a P4P slot... PBF(friggin hate him)#1 ... Would love Winky @ #2 but that goes to PAC and Winky @ # 3...Quote:
Originally Posted by diamonddavestafford
I have it Wright, Pacquio, Mayweather.....Like I have said before it's not so much that I don't think Foyd has the skills to be #1 it is his choice of opponents that keep him off there for me anyhow...
3.Floyds last 4 went--Baldo, Zab, Mitchell, Gatti...Baldo I understand because he was Ring champion at 147 but at 140??? We choose Sharmba Mitchell other than a fight with another Champion?....Why the sudden departure from 135?...I know he could make the weight and there were still fights....IMO Floyd is a great fighter who can beat just about anyone on any given night but chooses the easiest opp available....Dont take my word for it...His record speaks for it self....http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=352
AND NO ONE DUCKS FLOYD!!!! so that can not be used as an excuse...If anything he is the most sought out guy
2.Manny Pacquio-His last fights went-Morales, Larios, Morales, Velazquez, Morales, 3K Battery, Marquez...Losing only to Morales in what might have been Eriks last great moment....See the level of comp difference
1.Winky Wright-Quartey,Taylor,Soliman, Trinidad, Mosley twice....He had a draw with Taylor who was bigger and younger...the previous he won...Matter of Fact he hasn't lost since 1999....Even if you beat him you don't BEAT him....you edge him out slightly....if he had some power he would be damn near unstoppable...He is getting up there in age but still the best defensive fighter in the game....You cant hit him flush in a phone booth. His time is short age will catch him but for now he is the best out there. Like DLH Winky seeks the best...I also agree with his decision not to fight Taylor unless it is a 50/50 split. Why should Taylor get the bigger cut?...using the belts as his reasoning doesn't cut it...Today we all know the title really is just decoration
Very well spoken. :coolclick:Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
out of those three paciao is number one, but i refuse to vote in anything that would put mayweather about the #2 p4p big vladdy and the number 1 p4p judah
pacman = 3
I voted the first way
Mayweather, Pacq, Wright
but thought hard about voting the second way.
Mayweather, Wright, Pacq
Manny Pacq is a bit wreckless in my opinion. Yes, The Hulk is wreckless but this is boxing not comic books.
Don't agree on one of the three but here's mine
PBF
PAC
winky
Having titles at different weight class just shows that a boxer had beaten other champion boxers. The caliber is 'champion'. Then it just shows greatness IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by "PRIDE OF BOSTON"
wow....slipping alittle I must say...Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
I have it Pac, Hopkins and Taylor O0
:coolclick: Agreed. It's all a toss up.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
Pac being as wreckless as he is...has proven to bring out the most excitement...my only issue is with his record & Wright's also. There are only 3-4 names on their records.
Floyd has fought the better opposition, IWO.
Now...speaking of comics...check this link. Blew me away. Floors me everytime I watch it.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/fa...fer/large.html