Re: Pacquiao v Valero - I'll stick my neck out on this one and ....
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Originally Posted by ono
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Originally Posted by true p4p king
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Originally Posted by Humble
I'm a Pacfan but I cannot deny the gargantuan possibility of PAC getting stopped, Valero is probably pound for pound the greatest puncher these days whether he fought cab drivers or not those are still 1st round kayos and they are consecutive. I saw him spar in a youtube vid and he definitely has good skills and AMAZING POWER to boot. He cannot be denied as the biggest threat to PAC. He is also younger than PAC.
yea valero has consecutive k.o in the first round but those are true bums...valero may look good now to some people because of those k.o`s but against pac he himself is gonna look like the bum like the guys he k.oed...you can say he looks good in sparring or those first round k.o`s but pac a huge huge step up and valeros chin is no morales or jmm nor mab...pac will probably k.o valero in the first and after that everyones gonna say ahh valero is a bum he won't look so good after pac whoops him...
really valero is not in pacs level no where near...
He doesn't have to be at his level to KO him you dipstick. If Pac opens up, and valero opens up i honestly think Pac would end up KO'd. The longer the fight goes on the more i favour Pac but i think it would be a short thriller with valero comeing out on top. He's naturally a lot bigger and i feel Pacman's tendency to want to mix it will be his undoing. P4pking, you sound a bit dizzy. You need to go lie down.
pacs tendency to mix it up will be pacs undoing? your stuck on this kid valero who's proven nothing...pac is the best at what he does he has proven it nobody can go toe to toe with him...look you dumpnut valero has k.oed part time boxers and he got k.d by masquero or whatevr that guys name...valeros only chance is to k.o pac...just because velaro has k.oed bums don't mean shyt...pac has been in with the best and jmm em and mab couldn't even drop pac...those are proven and shown facts...valero aint done shyt but k.o bums everyone does that at the start of their careers...you know what you can say whatever and hope whatever but once valero is in the ring with pac his power won't even matter to pacs great increasing chin or body...plus what's for sure is valero can't handle pacs power valero was almost k.oed already by a lower level fighter...pac will massacre this kid...if anything valero should fight guzman winner gets pacs brutal beating...
Re: Pacquiao v Valero - I'll stick my neck out on this one and ....
I have watched the fights of valero and I think he won't be able to knock out Pacquaio. Valero's style is the same as Pacquaio's style 7 years ago when the Pacman was still fighting in Blow by Blow.
However, Pacquaio can't be too confident. Valero has power in his punches. Valero can deliver a lucky punch and this may ultimately change the tide for Pacquaio.
Re: Pacquiao v Valero - I'll stick my neck out on this one and ....
He can knock manny out if he lands a big punch especially if manny is caught off-balance and more if its a counterpunch. But the question to me is if valero can do that before he himself gets hit. Can he take manny's punches? we dont know. who knows. But as far as who attacks first and who hits the first big punch, I'll go with pacquiao.
Re: Pacquiao v Valero - I'll stick my neck out on this one and ....
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Originally Posted by true p4p king
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Originally Posted by ono
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Originally Posted by true p4p king
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Originally Posted by Humble
I'm a Pacfan but I cannot deny the gargantuan possibility of PAC getting stopped, Valero is probably pound for pound the greatest puncher these days whether he fought cab drivers or not those are still 1st round kayos and they are consecutive. I saw him spar in a youtube vid and he definitely has good skills and AMAZING POWER to boot. He cannot be denied as the biggest threat to PAC. He is also younger than PAC.
yea valero has consecutive k.o in the first round but those are true bums...valero may look good now to some people because of those k.o`s but against pac he himself is gonna look like the bum like the guys he k.oed...you can say he looks good in sparring or those first round k.o`s but pac a huge huge step up and valeros chin is no morales or jmm nor mab...pac will probably k.o valero in the first and after that everyones gonna say ahh valero is a bum he won't look so good after pac whoops him...
really valero is not in pacs level no where near...
He doesn't have to be at his level to KO him you dipstick. If Pac opens up, and valero opens up i honestly think Pac would end up KO'd. The longer the fight goes on the more i favour Pac but i think it would be a short thriller with valero comeing out on top. He's naturally a lot bigger and i feel Pacman's tendency to want to mix it will be his undoing. P4pking, you sound a bit dizzy. You need to go lie down.
pacs tendency to mix it up will be pacs undoing? your stuck on this kid valero who's proven nothing...pac is the best at what he does he has proven it nobody can go toe to toe with him...look you dumpnut valero has k.oed part time boxers and he got k.d by masquero or whatevr that guys name...valeros only chance is to k.o pac...just because velaro has k.oed bums don't mean shyt...pac has been in with the best and jmm em and mab couldn't even drop pac...those are proven and shown facts...valero aint done shyt but k.o bums everyone does that at the start of their careers...you know what you can say whatever and hope whatever but once valero is in the ring with pac his power won't even matter to pacs great increasing chin or body...plus what's for sure is valero can't handle pacs power valero was almost k.oed already by a lower level fighter...pac will massacre this kid...if anything valero should fight guzman winner gets pacs brutal beating...
Have you seen the video of valero owning Morales in sparring? What you have to look at is the size of valero. He's much bigger than Morales and Marquez. I actually think Guzman would be a much tougher fight for valero. I think Guzman is too big for Pacman and he pretty much owned Barrios. Most fighters fightin today have only KO'd bums to be honest but you don't have to be a bum to get KO'd.
Re: Pacquiao v Valero - I'll stick my neck out on this one and ....
If i were Valero i would duck Pacquiao till he is old enough to retire,then challenge Pacquiao to a big fight.This is the only way for Valero to win against the Pac.Not at this time when Manny is still at his prime.
Re: Pacquiao v Valero - I'll stick my neck out on this one and ....
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Originally Posted by ono
Have you seen the video of valero owning Morales in sparring? What you have to look at is the size of valero. He's much bigger than Morales and Marquez. I actually think Guzman would be a much tougher fight for valero. I think Guzman is too big for Pacman and he pretty much owned Barrios. Most fighters fightin today have only KO'd bums to be honest but you don't have to be a bum to get KO'd.
its true. but valero in his most recent fight has hit the decked
and it was against who? while pac's resume really consist of KO's against bums,
he did KOed legends.. tough-ass mexican legends.
im not taking away the possibility of valero pulling a KO
and its not like valero has no chance. he has. but it isnt that big
its just that pac is too much for A1 fighters and will be too much for him
85-15 my point.. less than 3 rounds for either of them
Re: Pacquiao v Valero - I'll stick my neck out on this one and ....
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Originally Posted by the_answer
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Originally Posted by ono
Have you seen the video of valero owning Morales in sparring? What you have to look at is the size of valero. He's much bigger than Morales and Marquez. I actually think Guzman would be a much tougher fight for valero. I think Guzman is too big for Pacman and he pretty much owned Barrios. Most fighters fightin today have only KO'd bums to be honest but you don't have to be a bum to get KO'd.
its true. but valero in his most recent fight has hit the decked
and it was against who? while pac's resume really consist of KO's against bums,
he did KOed legends.. tough-ass mexican legends.
im not taking away the possibility of valero pulling a KO
and its not like valero has no chance. he has. but it isnt that big
its just that pac is too much for A1 fighters and will be too much for him
85-15 my point.. less than 3 rounds for either of them
Sorry for not agreeing but Larios shook pacman to his boots and i think valero is more than capable of KO'ing him. Just my opinion tho. Be very exciting anyway.
Re: Pacquiao v Valero - I'll stick my neck out on this one and ....
After reading the article "monstrous Valero" what do you think?
Re: Pacquiao v Valero - I'll stick my neck out on this one and ....
People saying Valero would get ko'd because he was dropped by Mosquera should look at Larios,
Larios was tko'd rd 3 in a lower weight but stepped up and went the distance with Pac in his next fight, plus Valero has huge power, imo more than EM MAB and JMM, maybe Pac ko's him but Valero would
have a huge chance of ko'ing him as well, he was very close to stopping Mosquera in the first round, he starts so fast!!
I'd say if the 2 met the first round alone could be one of the best we'll ever see, real Hagler Hearns shit ;D
