Re: Chico vs Pac @ lightweight...
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Originally Posted by Rotten Apple
Unlike Mayweather or Casamayor, Pac is pretty easy to hit. When Corrales does it will be over.
Unlike Mayweather or Casamayor, Pac hits like a truck. When Corrales gets hit it will be over.
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Re: Chico vs Pac @ lightweight...
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Originally Posted by The Grinch
Unlike Mayweather or Casamayor, Pac hits like a truck. When Corrales gets hit it will be over.
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Corrales took Freitas punches and most of Castillo's punches. Both much bigger punchers than Pac. I think he'll take Pac's punches without much problems. People seem to ignore that there is a good amount of size diffrence between them. Corrales would be way to strong for Manny
Re: Chico vs Pac @ lightweight...
Yeah your probably right ::**
Just highlighting the fact that Corales is chinny ;)
besides... Freitas quit and Castillio was never actually stopped.
Re: Chico vs Pac @ lightweight...
Its really funny how people can be non believers when they dont see it happenning.They claim that PACMAN would lose to CHICO with all those imaginary analysis. Understandably for when PACMAN prior to his annihilation of P4P bet LEBWADA,many were unbielivers.Again MANNY prior to his whipping of BARRERA,a lot were doomsayers.Then again prior to his retirement of MORALES ,cynics were aplenty.
I wonder when will true believers come MANNY'S way.
Manny will ko Chico anytime!This is a sure thing.
Re: Chico vs Pac @ lightweight...
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Originally Posted by GAME
Chico has the power to knock out an ironed chinned lightweight like Castillo .
he knocked castillo standing. it was 18 punches all from left hooks and right straights
any other fighter would do the same with those number of blows
chico can punch. but not a one punch ko even if its against a super feath
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Pacman has been brutally K.o'd twice as a flyweight . Logic suggests Chico blasts him outta the ring
have you watched the fight? the one against the thai... tell me if its really pac
the pac that beat barrera. the pac of today. he was 17 then against torrecampo.
a supposed to be amateur in bad condition against a crafty hard hitting veteran
brutally? bwah... who got beaten BRUTALLY in 2003
there is a sayin 'YOU'RE ONLY AS GOOD AS YOUR LAST FIGHT'
dude it was late 90's when it happened. so please get over it.
MAB, JMM, larios, EM cant and has never decked pac.. never.. ever...
while pac, had made their ass kissed the canvass. so whos chin is suspicious?
again you diss on pacs chin while you adore MAB
before barrera fought juarez no one brought up and no one acted like an ass
about his RECENT KO loss to pac.. it happened 2003 not 1997
2003? 1997? 2003? 1997? 2003? 1997? 2003? 1997?
power? floyd dropped chico 5 times at 130, and i doubt if floyd would do the same to EM
P.S.
i like chico. one of my all time favs. warrior.
Re: Chico vs Pac @ lightweight...
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Originally Posted by happytrip
Its really funny how people can be non believers when they dont see it happenning.They claim that PACMAN would lose to CHICO with all those imaginary analysis. Understandably for when PACMAN prior to his annihilation of P4P bet LEBWADA,many were unbielivers.Again MANNY prior to his whipping of BARRERA,a lot were doomsayers.Then again prior to his retirement of MORALES ,cynics were aplenty.
I wonder when will true believers come MANNY'S way.
Manny will ko Chico anytime!This is a sure thing.
Damn you Pac fans are sensitive. It ain't about not giving Pac his credit (which I did). It's just some of these match-ups are getting ridiculous and you Pac fans get riled up when some one says he'll lose. At first these match-ups made sense. Pacquiao-Marquez 2. Some made no sense. Pacquiao-McCullough. Than they got intresting. Pacquiao-Valero, Pacquiao-Guzman. Than they started getting foolish. Pacquiao-Hamed, Pacquiao-Mayweather. Now there just plain stupid. Pacquiao-Corrales, Pacquiao-Hatton. What's next? Pacquiao-De La Hoya? Pacquiao-Klitschko? You Pac fans will probably still have him winning
Re: Chico vs Pac @ lightweight...
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Originally Posted by barbaro
pacman would destroy corrales,1st round knockout.
I dont agree with you here mate! i rekon he would use his fast hands to bang that body and his chin is balls imo so manny tk0 7th or above i think
Re: Chico vs Pac @ lightweight...
pacman in total domination
Re: Chico vs Pac @ lightweight...
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by happytrip
Its really funny how people can be non believers when they dont see it happenning.They claim that PACMAN would lose to CHICO with all those imaginary analysis. Understandably for when PACMAN prior to his annihilation of P4P bet LEBWADA,many were unbielivers.Again MANNY prior to his whipping of BARRERA,a lot were doomsayers.Then again prior to his retirement of MORALES ,cynics were aplenty.
I wonder when will true believers come MANNY'S way.
Manny will ko Chico anytime!This is a sure thing.
Damn you Pac fans are sensitive. It ain't about not giving Pac his credit (which I did). It's just some of these match-ups are getting ridiculous and you Pac fans get riled up when some one says he'll lose. At first these match-ups made sense. Pacquiao-Marquez 2. Some made no sense. Pacquiao-McCullough. Than they got intresting. Pacquiao-Valero, Pacquiao-Guzman. Than they started getting foolish. Pacquiao-Hamed, Pacquiao-Mayweather. Now there just plain stupid. Pacquiao-Corrales, Pacquiao-Hatton. What's next? Pacquiao-De La Hoya? Pacquiao-Klitschko? You Pac fans will probably still have him winning
Well said. Cool click. Pac beats a shot Morales and he is now supposed to be an unstoppable force that can even knockout fighters outside of his weight division?! It's amazing how people become so enamored with a fighter that they simply look past his flaws and fool themselves into thinking that the fighter cannot be beaten. Pac for all of his physical ability is FAR from being a complete boxer and his defense is non-existent. If he gets hit flush by someone bigger and stronger than him like Chico...he will be hurt. You can root for your favorite fighter and support him...but people need to base their logic in reality.
Re: Chico vs Pac @ lightweight...
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Originally Posted by zhubin
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by happytrip
Its really funny how people can be non believers when they dont see it happenning.They claim that PACMAN would lose to CHICO with all those imaginary analysis. Understandably for when PACMAN prior to his annihilation of P4P bet LEBWADA,many were unbielivers.Again MANNY prior to his whipping of BARRERA,a lot were doomsayers.Then again prior to his retirement of MORALES ,cynics were aplenty.
I wonder when will true believers come MANNY'S way.
Manny will ko Chico anytime!This is a sure thing.
Damn you Pac fans are sensitive. It ain't about not giving Pac his credit (which I did). It's just some of these match-ups are getting ridiculous and you Pac fans get riled up when some one says he'll lose. At first these match-ups made sense. Pacquiao-Marquez 2. Some made no sense. Pacquiao-McCullough. Than they got intresting. Pacquiao-Valero, Pacquiao-Guzman. Than they started getting foolish. Pacquiao-Hamed, Pacquiao-Mayweather. Now there just plain stupid. Pacquiao-Corrales, Pacquiao-Hatton. What's next? Pacquiao-De La Hoya? Pacquiao-Klitschko? You Pac fans will probably still have him winning
Well said. Cool click. Pac beats a shot Morales and he is now supposed to be an unstoppable force that can even knockout fighters outside of his weight division?! It's amazing how people become so enamored with a fighter that they simply look past his flaws and fool themselves into thinking that the fighter cannot be beaten. Pac for all of his physical ability is FAR from being a complete boxer and his defense is non-existent. If he gets hit flush by someone bigger and stronger than him like Chico...he will be hurt. You can root for your favorite fighter and support him...but people need to base their logic in reality.
defense is non existent? pacs defense is underated just because he loves to come and eat your heart and he doesn't mind getting hit unlike pbf...pac only really get hit now is when he brawls...he block punches much better now and head movement is increasing every match...since he can just take your heart he doesn't put on a defensive performance he hits to damn hard and fast and his chin is outstanding stronger then ever each match...
if em is shot so is chico...so you still think pac won't k.o him now?...pacs looks like he has flaws but those are flaws he can afford...because his that good...logic says if they fight it`ll be in the future not the past knowledge tells me a better pac will show up and a standstill hesitant chico will show up...facts are a fighter is only as good as his last fight...don't call people foolish we all saw the last chico and the last pac...base your logic on reality and yea pac looks like he`ll dominate chinny chico...
Re: Chico vs Pac @ lightweight...
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Originally Posted by true p4p king
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Originally Posted by zhubin
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by happytrip
Its really funny how people can be non believers when they dont see it happenning.They claim that PACMAN would lose to CHICO with all those imaginary analysis. Understandably for when PACMAN prior to his annihilation of P4P bet LEBWADA,many were unbielivers.Again MANNY prior to his whipping of BARRERA,a lot were doomsayers.Then again prior to his retirement of MORALES ,cynics were aplenty.
I wonder when will true believers come MANNY'S way.
Manny will ko Chico anytime!This is a sure thing.
Damn you Pac fans are sensitive. It ain't about not giving Pac his credit (which I did). It's just some of these match-ups are getting ridiculous and you Pac fans get riled up when some one says he'll lose. At first these match-ups made sense. Pacquiao-Marquez 2. Some made no sense. Pacquiao-McCullough. Than they got intresting. Pacquiao-Valero, Pacquiao-Guzman. Than they started getting foolish. Pacquiao-Hamed, Pacquiao-Mayweather. Now there just plain stupid. Pacquiao-Corrales, Pacquiao-Hatton. What's next? Pacquiao-De La Hoya? Pacquiao-Klitschko? You Pac fans will probably still have him winning
Well said. Cool click. Pac beats a shot Morales and he is now supposed to be an unstoppable force that can even knockout fighters outside of his weight division?! It's amazing how people become so enamored with a fighter that they simply look past his flaws and fool themselves into thinking that the fighter cannot be beaten. Pac for all of his physical ability is FAR from being a complete boxer and his defense is non-existent. If he gets hit flush by someone bigger and stronger than him like Chico...he will be hurt. You can root for your favorite fighter and support him...but people need to base their logic in reality.
defense is non existent? pacs defense is underated just because he loves to come and eat your heart and he doesn't mind getting hit unlike pbf...pac only really get hit now is when he brawls...he block punches much better now and head movement is increasing every match...since he can just take your heart he doesn't put on a defensive performance he hits to damn hard and fast and his chin is outstanding stronger then ever each match...
if em is shot so is chico...so you still think pac won't k.o him now?...pacs looks like he has flaws but those are flaws he can afford...because his that good...logic says if they fight it`ll be in the future not the past knowledge tells me a better pac will show up and a standstill hesitant chico will show up...facts are a fighter is only as good as his last fight...don't call people foolish we all saw the last chico and the last pac...base your logic on reality and yea pac looks like he`ll dominate chinny chico...
I think Castillo ruined Chico and Casamayor finished him off. But size is size. And I think Corrales has to much for Pac. You don't think that matters. Fine. But just answer one question for me. And try and answer it truthfully. You said it yourself Pac only gets hit when he brawls. Since brawling is the only way he can win against Corrales, he will be brawling. What happens when Pac lunges forward like he tends to do when he punches and Corrales left hook catches him flush on the chin? The same left hook that hurt the iron-chinned Castillo. I think Pac goes to sleep. What do you think?
Re: Chico vs Pac @ lightweight...
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by true p4p king
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Originally Posted by zhubin
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by happytrip
Its really funny how people can be non believers when they dont see it happenning.They claim that PACMAN would lose to CHICO with all those imaginary analysis. Understandably for when PACMAN prior to his annihilation of P4P bet LEBWADA,many were unbielivers.Again MANNY prior to his whipping of BARRERA,a lot were doomsayers.Then again prior to his retirement of MORALES ,cynics were aplenty.
I wonder when will true believers come MANNY'S way.
Manny will ko Chico anytime!This is a sure thing.
Damn you Pac fans are sensitive. It ain't about not giving Pac his credit (which I did). It's just some of these match-ups are getting ridiculous and you Pac fans get riled up when some one says he'll lose. At first these match-ups made sense. Pacquiao-Marquez 2. Some made no sense. Pacquiao-McCullough. Than they got intresting. Pacquiao-Valero, Pacquiao-Guzman. Than they started getting foolish. Pacquiao-Hamed, Pacquiao-Mayweather. Now there just plain stupid. Pacquiao-Corrales, Pacquiao-Hatton. What's next? Pacquiao-De La Hoya? Pacquiao-Klitschko? You Pac fans will probably still have him winning
Well said. Cool click. Pac beats a shot Morales and he is now supposed to be an unstoppable force that can even knockout fighters outside of his weight division?! It's amazing how people become so enamored with a fighter that they simply look past his flaws and fool themselves into thinking that the fighter cannot be beaten. Pac for all of his physical ability is FAR from being a complete boxer and his defense is non-existent. If he gets hit flush by someone bigger and stronger than him like Chico...he will be hurt. You can root for your favorite fighter and support him...but people need to base their logic in reality.
defense is non existent? pacs defense is underated just because he loves to come and eat your heart and he doesn't mind getting hit unlike pbf...pac only really get hit now is when he brawls...he block punches much better now and head movement is increasing every match...since he can just take your heart he doesn't put on a defensive performance he hits to damn hard and fast and his chin is outstanding stronger then ever each match...
if em is shot so is chico...so you still think pac won't k.o him now?...pacs looks like he has flaws but those are flaws he can afford...because his that good...logic says if they fight it`ll be in the future not the past knowledge tells me a better pac will show up and a standstill hesitant chico will show up...facts are a fighter is only as good as his last fight...don't call people foolish we all saw the last chico and the last pac...base your logic on reality and yea pac looks like he`ll dominate chinny chico...
I think Castillo ruined Chico and Casamayor finished him off. But size is size. And I think Corrales has to much for Pac. You don't think that matters. Fine. But just answer one question for me. And try and answer it truthfully. You said it yourself Pac only gets hit when he brawls. Since brawling is the only way he can win against Corrales, he will be brawling. What happens when Pac lunges forward like he tends to do when he punches and Corrales left hook catches him flush on the chin? The same left hook that hurt the iron-chinned Castillo. I think Pac goes to sleep. What do you think?
pac will take it and keep coming...your forgetting jmm em and mab all rates top powerful punchers too...and size of chico isn't that big a factor because he doesn't even know how to use his size and reach...this is what said about em in the second fight with pac he was too naturally bigger but pac still took his heart...and chicos chin is a joke compare to morales...now since pac broke the great chin of morales...and keep in mind a great chin is always a great chin...its not something that is trained nor teach its something you don't have or have and when you have it you`ll always have a great chin young new old or whatevr...so what do you think will happen a counter hook from pac or a straight left witch one you think lands first to drop chico?its almost certain pac will k.o him early...chico has no headmovement he just stands there and gets hit...pac gets hit but he moves away while getting hit and its balance that makes it look like pac gets hit hard but he is avoiding full power because his moving away while its landing unlike chico that just stands there and doesn't even use his reach...plus casamayor took chicos heart already chico look hesitant he`ll look worst then em did with pacman of today.
Re: Chico vs Pac @ lightweight...
Corrales is P4P top 3 for power,has taken punches from monster hitters like Freitas and awesome cumualtive hitters like Castillo and got back up,is bigger,was only ko'ed by a middleweight Castillo etc etc so yes,I'd say Corrales would KTFO Pac. Like I have always maintained,anyone who stands toe to toe with Corrales 140 and below will get hurt...
Saying Pac would beat Chico,yet no one has explained how???
Re: Chico vs Pac @ lightweight...
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by true p4p king
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Originally Posted by zhubin
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by happytrip
Its really funny how people can be non believers when they dont see it happenning.They claim that PACMAN would lose to CHICO with all those imaginary analysis. Understandably for when PACMAN prior to his annihilation of P4P bet LEBWADA,many were unbielivers.Again MANNY prior to his whipping of BARRERA,a lot were doomsayers.Then again prior to his retirement of MORALES ,cynics were aplenty.
I wonder when will true believers come MANNY'S way.
Manny will ko Chico anytime!This is a sure thing.
Damn you Pac fans are sensitive. It ain't about not giving Pac his credit (which I did). It's just some of these match-ups are getting ridiculous and you Pac fans get riled up when some one says he'll lose. At first these match-ups made sense. Pacquiao-Marquez 2. Some made no sense. Pacquiao-McCullough. Than they got intresting. Pacquiao-Valero, Pacquiao-Guzman. Than they started getting foolish. Pacquiao-Hamed, Pacquiao-Mayweather. Now there just plain stupid. Pacquiao-Corrales, Pacquiao-Hatton. What's next? Pacquiao-De La Hoya? Pacquiao-Klitschko? You Pac fans will probably still have him winning
Well said. Cool click. Pac beats a shot Morales and he is now supposed to be an unstoppable force that can even knockout fighters outside of his weight division?! It's amazing how people become so enamored with a fighter that they simply look past his flaws and fool themselves into thinking that the fighter cannot be beaten. Pac for all of his physical ability is FAR from being a complete boxer and his defense is non-existent. If he gets hit flush by someone bigger and stronger than him like Chico...he will be hurt. You can root for your favorite fighter and support him...but people need to base their logic in reality.
defense is non existent? pacs defense is underated just because he loves to come and eat your heart and he doesn't mind getting hit unlike pbf...pac only really get hit now is when he brawls...he block punches much better now and head movement is increasing every match...since he can just take your heart he doesn't put on a defensive performance he hits to damn hard and fast and his chin is outstanding stronger then ever each match...
if em is shot so is chico...so you still think pac won't k.o him now?...pacs looks like he has flaws but those are flaws he can afford...because his that good...logic says if they fight it`ll be in the future not the past knowledge tells me a better pac will show up and a standstill hesitant chico will show up...facts are a fighter is only as good as his last fight...don't call people foolish we all saw the last chico and the last pac...base your logic on reality and yea pac looks like he`ll dominate chinny chico...
I think Castillo ruined Chico and Casamayor finished him off. But size is size. And I think Corrales has to much for Pac. You don't think that matters. Fine. But just answer one question for me. And try and answer it truthfully. You said it yourself Pac only gets hit when he brawls. Since brawling is the only way he can win against Corrales, he will be brawling. What happens when Pac lunges forward like he tends to do when he punches and Corrales left hook catches him flush on the chin? The same left hook that hurt the iron-chinned Castillo. I think Pac goes to sleep. What do you think?
pac will take it and keep coming...your forgetting jmm em and mab all rates top powerful punchers too...and size of chico isn't that big a factor because he doesn't even know how to use his size and reach...this is what said about em in the second fight with pac he was too naturally bigger but pac still took his heart...and chicos chin is a joke compare to morales...now since pac broke the great chin of morales...and keep in mind a great chin is always a great chin...its not something that is trained nor teach its something you don't have or have and when you have it you`ll always have a great chin young new old or whatevr...so what do you think will happen a counter hook from pac or a straight left witch one you think lands first to drop chico?its almost certain pac will k.o him early...chico has no headmovement he just stands there and gets hit...pac gets hit but he moves away while getting hit and its balance that makes it look like pac gets hit hard but he is avoiding full power because his moving away while its landing unlike chico that just stands there and doesn't even use his reach...plus casamayor took chicos heart already chico look hesitant he`ll look worst then em did with pacman of today.
Either your over-estimating Pac's chin or your under-estimating Corrales power. Corrales chin ain't great. Nobody said it was. But in order to get to it you have to take shots. Castillo and Casamayor both know that. Mayweather didn't have to. But I think we both agree Pac and Mayweather fighting styles are very diffrent. I don't see Pac knocking Corrales out as being impossible. It can happen. But Pac has to take shots for it to happen. And if Morales (first fight) and Larios can hurt him. And Serik Yeshmagambetov (I got the Filipino version of the fight so I know what I'm talking about) can drop him. Than Corrales can knock him out. Corrales hits a lot (I mean a lot) harder than Morales, Larios and Serik.
Re: Chico vs Pac @ lightweight...
first of serik vs. pac happened how many years ago? exactly...we both know pac has improve so much since then...if you really know anything that far of pacs career...you should of mention hussein dropping pac...but that bastard did every dirty tactic to weaken pac...as for em he never hurt pac enough for pac to hesitate to attack...that proves how strong pacs chin is...and for larios he did catch pac on the ropes while pacs hands were down..but pac shook that of 2 seconds later and what after that he just piss pac off and pac ended up cutting him with punches...that larios punch is overrated pac took that and whoop larios like a true warrior would do...as for corralles power yes he packs a punch but his a easy target for pac and only way he can beat is if he k.o pac...as for the new and improve pac that even for chico is a long shot even though he is rated as a powerpuncher right now he doesn't look like the once one punch finisher...and pac is getting better and better so stop going years from now looking for something to say about who drop pac...or whatever because the pac today is far from the pac then...coming in the fight chico looks weak while pac looks to be even better then his last showing...
yes pbf and pacs style is way different...pbf needs to be perfect to win pac can afford flaws because he can punch and take a punch...chico never even k.oed castillo ref stopped that to early and fretais never really caught chico cause he was hesistant and we all know pac is never hesitates...
fact is chico standstills and is a easy target and pac gets hit only after being out of balance while he brawls and even then he still moves his head taking power out of punches his catching...so chico would need to be lucky to catch pac with one real hard one but chico today don't look like he can...while the pac today still improving rapidly...
I didn't say chicos chin is great I said it was a joke compare to iron chin morales...pac will break chicos chin easier because his a standstill target for pac...
one last question...what's more likely to happen with chicos chinny chin do you think he can hurt pac first before fast relentless pac k.os him?...
