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I have said this over and over again. I am not huge on Tony.Quote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
Cotto is my pick of the litter.
My Avatar has always been Cotto.
My Sigi for the most part has always been Cotto except when I was teasing you PBF nut huggers with this one:
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This sigi never said anything about me being a huge Tony fan.
I have never professed to be a Tony fan.
I have professed to hating PBF and his minions of nuthuggers.
See signature below, I root for both fighters....Quote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
If you think that turning a fight around after loosing rds. 2,3 & 4 back to back and then changing gears is sucking then wow!! Margarito was getting hit, and so was Clottey, Clottey landed the cleaner punches in those 3 rds. but Margarito fought back and kept busy all the time he throws a lot of punches.
It took him a while to warm up and get going, but in the end he won the fight. He has no one to blame but himself for the inactivity he took a gamble and Pretty Girl Floyd found a way to go around him..... Zab well same thing....
PBF & ZAB.... Come don't you remember that memorable bout what a MEGA showdown that was..... ::**
But thats that, Margarito won I HOPE HE FIGHTS WILLIAMS NEXT and both mem are prepared well. Wiht NO excuses for eother fighter..... And we will be in for a real treat. Regardless of who wins. IMO, Margarito beats Williams his chinny and has been hurt by both Mathysse & Sharmba....
CC # 833Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Interesting point of view. Tony seems a bit slow to beat Williams IMO , Margarito does keep the punches coming , nice work rate. but he is slow for 147,
Clottey made a mental mistake by basically quitting when he hurt his hand.. I have had many a hand injuries and it sucks, but you got to will your way threw shit and keep the punches flowing. it's seem the injury was prior to the fight during training , Joshua should have Novocained that bad boy before he wrapped up , so its own damn fault he lost the fight, a fight he was schooling Margarito.
I was sitting there at the time with my mouth wide open , thinking, to myself what the fuck is Clottey Throwing the fight ? Round 5 he just stopped throwing punches. . .
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
I mean I get it Margarito did look VERY rusty and lost those rds. I keep seeing people say Clottey won rd.1 WHAT!! :o are they insane....
Spot on, Clottey said he injured his hand about 2 weeks ago and he felt that he couldn't cancel the fight. That it was his duty to show up regadless and fight thats what he does...(So he said) and that he didn't wan't to call the bout off....
Like El Gamo said, the same thing could be said for Margarito about his hand being hurt..... But we are not using that, we realise Margarito was slow and lost those rds. but other then that Margarito won the other rds. I think he lost the 8th rd or something. thats still just 4 rds. for Clottey....
At I actually thought the ref. was gonna jump in there at one point it seemed like he was ready to jump in that 5th rd. asault.... But it when on and now the fights done....
Lets hope that Margarito vs. Williams pulls through and we'll be good... 8)
Cotto should be P4P for sure,close to top10,maybe lower half of top 10? As for Margarito,that was rust,injury,lack of sparring etc whereas Clottey fought the fight of his life but Margarito's bodyshots were having an effect in my opinion and Clottey was getting tired. He has an awesome defence though!
These rounds can only have done Tony good and hopefully were a bit of a wake up call. I fully expect him to fight and beat Paul Williams next then you Tony haters can look around for someone else to root for to beat Tony. ;D :D
Not because I hate Tony, but I'll be rooting for Cotto to beat him and fully expect that he'll do so--providing Tony can get by Williams (which I give him a 45% chance of doing).Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
Sorry bro,that was not addressed at anyone in particular...but alot of people were saying Clottey would win etc etc now it's Williams will knock the F out Tony. Most fans with knowledge will acknowledge Margarito's win over Clottey is a good one,that Tony showed heart and determination,chose to fight a dangerous opponent rather than a bum,someone coming off a loss etc etc which so many top fighters nowadays do... I'm a huge Margarito fan and that was one of his less impressive performances but he got the W,that's what matter.sQuote:
Originally Posted by shza
No worries--I didn't take it as addressed at me. Just thought I'd make it clear in the preface that I don't really have anything against Margarito. I haven't been impressed by any of his fights I've seen, but true he gets credit for facing Clottey. And he clearly won the fight; though what may have happened had Clottey not gotten hurt might be another story. Anyway--I think versus Williams is a pick'em fight, though I'd lead heavily toward Williams if he had another 2-3 years under his belt first. For me that's the big question mark on that one--Williams is still pretty green. Again, though, if Margarito gets by that one, I just really don't see him beating Cotto. Good thing for him he's got a good chin.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
I got to be honest I do think Cotto has to be there but not until he beat a name in that list he will not be there officially. Then there is the posibility if he cleans the 147 div. he can be there officialy. There still mhard fights to be maid for this kid but at least finally a Boxer is stepping up the plate. And did like for PBF call on ODLH De la Hoya might be old ( I said Might) but he still has Power , Speed and he is alwasy ver technically good. So for that reason i'm gonna give PBF his props.
By the time PBF fought Corrales, there wasn't Cotto, Hatton, Baldi, MArgarito, I mean he fought the harder fights there were by the moment Castillo(twice) and Corrales for that he has to be in the top.
As for Hatton he is there because he beat Kostya who else?( if he fights Castillo ans wins he will probably be in the top 5)
True but like I said,Doug Fischer explaine d in his Firday mail bag that Tony injured his wrist and ankle before the fight,hence the arm punches...and I believe,honestly,that Margarito would have won anyway,regardless of Clottey's hand. Tony was wearing him down to the body and Clottey looked EXHAUSTED by round 9.Quote:
Originally Posted by shza
I#m a BIG BIG COtto fan but Margarito is no Quintana and,if 100% well prepared,I'd still think he was favourite over Cotto,Cotto is still very open and Margarito's stupendous stamina will push him to the limit. If Tony can take Cotto's best,I think it's going to be a looooooooong night for Cotto ALHTOUGH,on the other hand,Cotto will have space to land those bodyshots and I don't see too many people taking those shots!! Either way,I wouldn't mind,as long as both guys stock goes up after the fight.
As for Williams,to be honest,I actually like his style but about him being green,he's had what 31 pr fights,he should'nt be and if he is,that's his own fault. I want Tony to KTFO Paul though simply because Williams has been running his mouth to much firstly and secondly,like I said earlier,the same posters who go on and on about how Clottey would beat Tony are now going on about Williams etc etc and it gets annoying...
Margarito is just too wide with his shots and kind of slow for 147. I can see where the losses came from, and I can see why he has been careful to step up.. I can also see why he was calling Mayweather out before, That’s so he could get paid before he gets beat by someone nobody heard of, but to Tony's credit he comes to fight, and does let his hands go, so that’s a plus. Look for Paul Williams to knock Tony out in 3 rounds Williams hand speed is about 3 times faster. and speed kills Margarito. ! Hope I am wrong, would love to see Margarito win that fight ! I just don't see it happening . O0Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
couldnt have said it better myself, cc
Castillo has never even been knocked down. Don;t get me wrong, I still think Cotto would win, but Castillo is a tough son of a bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lords Gym
yeah Castillio is strong no doubt. at 147 I think Cotto would blast him outta there tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
:lol: :lolhaha: Who is this guy??? Kind of hard to :sadclick: when the boss keeps resetting your post count.... This guy is like that Old Pizza commercial Dominos or Pizza Hut I think....Were it said "Avoid The Noid" and a goofy looking short thing in a deranged easterbunny outfit would be bouncing around the screen...Making weird noises, Pissing everyone offQuote:
Originally Posted by CompulsiveSadClickerReturns