Re: Is open scoring a good or bad thing for boxing?
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
I dunno it might it help it might not. Could it be worse? is the question i ask.
YES! The crowd can "BOOOOO!" and harass their way when the hometown kid doesn't get the round "they think he should've desereved" in every round.
usually its the hometown kid that gets the jacked decision in his favor.
Re: Is open scoring a good or bad thing for boxing?
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
I dunno it might it help it might not. Could it be worse? is the question i ask.
YES! The crowd can "BOOOOO!" and harass their way when the hometown kid doesn't get the round "they think he should've desereved" in every round.
usually its the hometown kid that gets the jacked decision in his favor.
But will open scoring "improve" this.... heheh hellll noo!
Open scoring is jacked. It's the actual judges that are the real problem.
Re: Is open scoring a good or bad thing for boxing?
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
I dunno it might it help it might not. Could it be worse? is the question i ask.
YES! The crowd can "BOOOOO!" and harass their way when the hometown kid doesn't get the round "they think he should've desereved" in every round.
usually its the hometown kid that gets the jacked decision in his favor.
But will open scoring "improve" this.... heheh hellll noo!
Open scoring is jacked. It's the actual judges that are the real problem.
We're trying to find a solution to this outside of having Fight Night techno judges where you just enter the punch stats and that determines the winner.
Re: Is open scoring a good or bad thing for boxing?
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
I dunno it might it help it might not. Could it be worse? is the question i ask.
YES! The crowd can "BOOOOO!" and harass their way when the hometown kid doesn't get the round "they think he should've desereved" in every round.
usually its the hometown kid that gets the jacked decision in his favor.
But will open scoring "improve" this.... heheh hellll noo!
Open scoring is jacked. It's the actual judges that are the real problem.
We're trying to find a solution to this outside of having Fight Night techno judges where you just enter the punch stats and that determines the winner.
hahah, are you 10! You better not be 10~! hahah or worse, teens. ;D
Have you been listenin' to me. ;D Open scoring is a regression in scoring. I gave my reasons already, on deaf ears it seems.
Re: Is open scoring a good or bad thing for boxing?
Bad calls happen in football too so i guess i'll accept the scoring system the way it is now but something needs to be done about the "buy your title shot" alphabet councils.
Re: Is open scoring a good or bad thing for boxing?
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
Bad calls happen in football too so i guess i'll accept the scoring system the way it is now but something needs to be done about the "buy your title shot" alphabet councils.
By the way. cc :D
Re: Is open scoring a good or bad thing for boxing?
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Originally Posted by Smashup
It is a double edged sword!
they say it will stop corruption but i can't see how ???
Exactly. I mean...if there is a crooked judge....he's going to score crooked no matter who knows it.
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The issue here is that the judges need to remain unbiased and not be influenced by the other judges. Thats why they turn their cards in at the end of each round and are not allowed to talk or communicate with each other during the fight. Its not scoring by commitee.Judges who hear the other scores during a fight WILL be influenced and IMO that is unacceptable. Perhaps a 5 (or 4?) judges scoring for all championship fights with a majority win needing 4-1 and a 3-2 being a draw. what do you think?
Re: Is open scoring a good or bad thing for boxing?
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Originally Posted by landmine950
The issue here is that the judges need to remain unbiased and not be influenced by the other judges. Thats why they turn their cards in at the end of each round and are not allowed to talk or communicate with each other during the fight. Its not scoring by commitee.Judges who hear the other scores during a fight WILL be influenced and IMO that is unacceptable. Perhaps a 5 (or 4?) judges scoring for all championship fights with a majority win needing 4-1 and a 3-2 being a draw. what do you think?
They don't sit next to each other. It's SOMETIMES we come across a judge who doesn't know what they are doing. Some are in their 80's. :D But the word "robbery!" is overused and abused, some fights are actually closer than we give credit.
Re: Is open scoring a good or bad thing for boxing?
i say YES keep it! it will help prevent shady suprises from going on.
but what BOXING truly needs is INSTANT REPLAY!!!!!!
how many times have u seen a missed KNOCK DOWN or contraversal KNOCK DOWN. or cut due to a head butt, and not a punch??????????
Re: Is open scoring a good or bad thing for boxing?
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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
i say YES keep it! it will help prevent shady suprises from going on.
but what BOXING truly needs is INSTANT REPLAY!!!!!!
how many times have u seen a missed KNOCK DOWN or contraversal KNOCK DOWN. or cut due to a head butt, and not a punch??????????
Velocity, you were right.
Instant Replay, you ARE right.
But Open Scoring... the ONLY thing good I see about it, is the crowd's reaction is dampened from knowing beforehand a crumy decision slowly, each round... but
WHY OPEN SCORING... how will that solve it? You WANT the judges to be affected by the crowd?
Because I think that's why people support open scoring. They think that everybody will come down on the judges everytime they score badly... but that's just bad officiating. Encouraging a jugde to be affected by oustide sources, besides the fight.
It's just bad judging to start with. Crack down on the 80 year olds and the consistent bad decision on certain judges.... and I'm talking BLATANT bad calls. Not close calls. Score cards we KNOW are in opposition of what happened.
Re: Is open scoring a good or bad thing for boxing?
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
i say YES keep it! it will help prevent shady suprises from going on.
but what BOXING truly needs is INSTANT REPLAY!!!!!!
how many times have u seen a missed KNOCK DOWN or contraversal KNOCK DOWN. or cut due to a head butt, and not a punch??????????
Velocity, you were right.
Instant Replay, you ARE right.
But Open Scoring... the ONLY thing good I see about it, is the crowd's reaction is dampened from knowing beforehand a crumy decision slowly, each round... but
WHY OPEN SCORING... how will that solve it? You WANT the judges to be affected by the crowd?
Because I think that's why people support open scoring. They think that everybody will come down on the judges everytime they score badly... but that's just bad officiating. Encouraging a jugde to be affected by oustide sources, besides the fight.
It's just bad judging to start with. Crack down on the 80 year olds and the consistent bad decision on certain judges.... and I'm talking BLATANT bad calls. Not close calls. Score cards we KNOW are in opposition of what happened.
no no bro look at what i typed exactly i wrote it will help us from shady suprises meaning. we the audience at home or at the fight know the judges are already being shady LOL. i never said it will solve or prevent corruptness but atleast we know 4 rounds into it and 8 rounds into it how shady our judges are instead of waiting the full 12 rounds LOL thats actually what i posted bro
Re: Is open scoring a good or bad thing for boxing?
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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
i say YES keep it! it will help prevent shady suprises from going on.
but what BOXING truly needs is INSTANT REPLAY!!!!!!
how many times have u seen a missed KNOCK DOWN or contraversal KNOCK DOWN. or cut due to a head butt, and not a punch??????????
Velocity, you were right.
Instant Replay, you ARE right.
But Open Scoring... the ONLY thing good I see about it, is the crowd's reaction is dampened from knowing beforehand a crumy decision slowly, each round... but
WHY OPEN SCORING... how will that solve it? You WANT the judges to be affected by the crowd?
Because I think that's why people support open scoring. They think that everybody will come down on the judges everytime they score badly... but that's just bad officiating. Encouraging a jugde to be affected by oustide sources, besides the fight.
It's just bad judging to start with. Crack down on the 80 year olds and the consistent bad decision on certain judges.... and I'm talking BLATANT bad calls. Not close calls. Score cards we KNOW are in opposition of what happened.
no no bro look at what i typed exactly i wrote it will help us from shady suprises meaning. we the audience at home or at the fight know the judges are already being shady LOL. i never said it will solve or prevent corruptness but atleast we know 4 rounds into it and 8 rounds into it how shady our judges are instead of waiting the full 12 rounds LOL thats actually what i posted bro
At least "we know"..... your right. "Knowing" is ONE thing good...
But is THAT the price we pay when a Sharmba Mitchell coasts and runs away in the last 4 rounds, because he has the first 8 secured because he knows he will win on the score cards?
He's not the only boxer to take advantage of the system, when open scoring was used on their bout.
Re: Is open scoring a good or bad thing for boxing?
true but the plus side is.........u will have a higher chance of action in particular of someone getting KTFO or atleast attempting to which could lead to a counter punch to KTFO of the person trying to KTFO of the person initially LOL
Re: Is open scoring a good or bad thing for boxing?
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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
true but the plus side is.........u will have a higher chance of action in particular of someone getting KTFO or atleast attempting to which could lead to a counter punch to KTFO of the person trying to KTFO of the person initially LOL
If the evidence showed that, then I'd agree my friend. But Many a Boxers decided to coast and give away rounds, knowing they could get away safely ahead a little on points. It's easy to run away... Oscar did it, haha. It's much harder to fight back.
