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Originally Posted by smashcrusher
Can anyone name any fighters who actually were reduced to the humiliation of avoiding competition by not moving up in weight, but actually having to meet the embarrassment of moving down in weight? There's only two instances I can recall. Most recently of course was Ricky Hatton running for the hills back down to the little superlightweight division after escaping with a lucky decision against journeyman Collazo, and of course the other instance was Roy Jones, who after looking around the heavyweight landscape after the Ruiz fight and realizing he would most likely be pounded like New York pizza dough by anyone else in that division, took off back down to 175 faster than speeding bullet. Is there anyone I'm forgetting?
You are obviously misinformed...
Do you not repect great fighters and human biengs?
Here is the truth that if you have either heart or sense you will take into account
First off these fighters are great ..Ricky is a two wieght world champ and undefeated in over 40 fights..Think he got there by bieng scared..And lets not forget..He is the man that always wants to beat the man.While everyone else was picking up the paper titles..Ricky always wanted to fight and went for kostya tszyu the former undisputed, and the at the time linear champ!
Now ..Ricky was originally going to fight juan lazcano..
But juan pulled out five weeks before the event with an injury , and so ricky was looking for an opponent
So wba welterweight champ luiz collazo has a date to defend the title .. and Ricky takes this fight with not a great deal of time to fit to the weight..Making weight is one thing..Having trained well enough and bulking up well enough to be effective at a weight is another!
In mine and many others opinions ricky won the fight...Mighty close indeed But he stil won, and got on his way..
So then some haters come out and say ohh ricky lost and ricky runs scared to light welterweight..
He ran nowhere like i said the original plan for to fight lazcano at lww but ricky claimed another prize went back down to where he never intended to leave in the first place.. and someone jumped to conclusions that he's scared....
As for roy jones....
Do you know roys intent having achieved a very rare accomplishment having become one of the very very few original middleweights to have won a heavyweight title.. never mind his other accomplishments...
So you must know of antonio Tarver no?... The one and only most arrogant ignorant barr none fighter out there..
So he comes along to Roy jones- John ruiz post fight conference and says? Wheres my shot roy.. your ducking me bla bla bla... Roy: i just beat a man weighing 40 pounds heavyer then me
Tarver: And im still not impressed? Perhaps to irritate roy into draining his weight back to 175 to fight him ..
Did it work..Yeh it worked! And a weight drained roy jones Still beat tarver..Close fight..But roy was clearly ahead by a two fight margin...Now lets not go into events after this because it has nothing to do with this arguement..
Roys Original intent after beating ruiz for the wba heavyweight title was to have one more fight and retire virtually undefeated..
He wanted this last fight..With mike tyson..And retire.. So he didnt run from the heavyweight division did he?
You claim he couldnt have fought or would'nt have standed a chance against anyone else at heavyweight?
So he could not have beat such fighters as Toney once more? Perhaps..?
Rahman? I'd have roy jones beating him.
i say the roy jones that beat ruiz beats all heavyweight champs out there now , probably barr vlad klit
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So whats the arguemnt?
