Re: A question about Manfredo Jr to my fellow forum members
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Originally Posted by killersheep
Here's how the heroes odds are (all who have said they will step-up in competition)
Junior Witter = -2000 = 1/20
Arturo Morua = +800 = 8/1
Ricky Hatton = -1000 = 1/10
Juan Urango = +600 = 6/1
Joe Calzaghe = -2000 = 1/20
Peter Manfredo Jr. = +1000 = 10/1
These are not my odds, these are from vegas.
I'm definitely going all-in on that manfredo-calzaghe fight for next season of the sportsbook ;)
Re: A question about Manfredo Jr to my fellow forum members
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
He's not garbage for this fight. He's been promoted to club fighter status. And he has my support 100% for this fight. I want Manfredo to win. I want Manfredo to knock out Calzcrappy's coward ass. I want it to be a first round knock out, too. Will it happen? I seriously doubt it. But I'm hoping it does. For this fight, Pride. We homies.
lol... a first time for everything ;D
Re: A question about Manfredo Jr to my fellow forum members
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Originally Posted by killersheep
Here's how the heroes odds are (all who have said they will step-up in competition)
Junior Witter = -2000 = 1/20
Arturo Morua = +800 = 8/1
Ricky Hatton = -1000 = 1/10
Juan Urango = +600 = 6/1
Joe Calzaghe = -2000 = 1/20
Peter Manfredo Jr. = +1000 = 10/1
These are not my odds, these are from vegas.
I think those odds are on the money, except for the Witter v Morua odds, I'd give Morua a 3/1 shot, Witter 2/9
Re: A question about Manfredo Jr to my fellow forum members
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Originally Posted by killersheep
Here's how the heroes odds are (all who have said they will step-up in competition)
Junior Witter = -2000 = 1/20
Arturo Morua = +800 = 8/1
Ricky Hatton = -1000 = 1/10
Juan Urango = +600 = 6/1
Joe Calzaghe = -2000 = 1/20
Peter Manfredo Jr. = +1000 = 10/1
These are not my odds, these are from vegas.
Morua, Urango and Manfredo. Damn these British fighters sure do fight the best. Who needs Harris, Collazo and Kessler? Nobody wants to see them. Morua, Urango and Manfredo. Now those are names people know. Them the money fights.............
Lord have mercy on the British
Re: A question about Manfredo Jr to my fellow forum members
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Here's how the heroes odds are (all who have said they will step-up in competition)
Junior Witter = -2000 = 1/20
Arturo Morua = +800 = 8/1
Ricky Hatton = -1000 = 1/10
Juan Urango = +600 = 6/1
Joe Calzaghe = -2000 = 1/20
Peter Manfredo Jr. = +1000 = 10/1
These are not my odds, these are from vegas.
Morua, Urango and Manfredo. Damn these British fighters sure do fight the best. Who needs Harris, Collazo and Kessler? Nobody wants to see them. Morua, Urango and Manfredo. Now those are names people know. Them the money fights.............
Lord have mercy on the British
HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Lord have mercy, indeed! ;D :lickish:
Re: A question about Manfredo Jr to my fellow forum members
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
I am so torn about this fight.
On the one hand I want Calzaghe to win so he can keep his reign alive and get that 20th title defense for bragging rights.
On the other hand, I want Manfredo Jr. to win because it is such a huge cinderella story if he does.
We have the Pride of Wales vs the Pride of Providence
on the same token we have the Italian Dragon vs the Italian Warrior
Both have their fathers working their corner. I like this scenario and how it looks and sounds on paper.
I must be crazy for wanting Peter to win too but that's just me. I would love to see him pull off this upset. I would not be able to handle his cockiness after the fact or the taunting of his fans, but oh well. ;D
I have watched almost every Calzaghe fight there is and he is a total enigma.
His style is not pretty but he is so unpredictable and from one fight to the next it is like watching a totally different fighter.
I know Calzaghe has a tough beard. I don't know much of Peter but his beard looks solid from what I have seen (again ain't seen much of the kid to make an honest assessment)
I know Peter has a hard head and if he is lucky, Calzaghe just might break or injure one of his brittle hands in the process of striking Peter's noggin, and this would totally change the fight.
Peter looked terrible against Sergio. Actually he looked terrible against everyone on that show of the Contender.
He says it was his weight and that is a valid excuse.
At 168 and after the show he has fought no one but basicly destroyed these two nobodys and that is what he should have done so credit him for that. To bad he did not get a couple more tuneup fights before going in against Calzaghe.
Peter had trouble with Sergio's style and that has to worry Peter because Joe Calzaghe comes from left field and does all kinds of crazy shiet that just might confuse the hell out of Peter. Joe Calzaghe is like a Sergio Mora on roids. He flurries, he switches, gives angles. I think Joe C will just be too much for Peter. He has that huge crowd to deal with in that stadium (Talk about pressure) I feel Peter is way in over his head but his little experience on the show should help him a little.
Peter can not win by decision not in Cardiff. He needs a knock out early. If I am not mistaken, only one person has ever dropped Joe Calzaghe and that was Byron Mitchell and we seen what happend to Byron right after that knock down.
You have to wonder if Peter can even go 12 with Joe C. Does Peter even have the stamina?
He has not gone 12 rounds since 2004.
Again the only way Peter can win is to go for broke and try to take Calzaghe out early or else Peter will drown in the deeper water.
I hope to God that he does better than Jeff Lacy did and I think he will.
He has put all of his faith in Freddie Roach and we will have to see just how good Freddie Roach is at cracking Calzaghe riddle. It's a tough one to crack.
What do I think will happen in this fight?
I say Peter gets knocked out in the 8th if not sooner.
Out.
Well i look at it like this. Manfredo lost to Mora not once but twice. Sure he got a bad decision the second time but he still didnt do enough to convince the judges, so he lost. He is not The Contender, he is just the runner up. If he had that much trouble with Mora and before that, the Mexican kid (i forget his name the guy that eliminated Manfredo the first time), what do you think Joe Calzaghe is gonna do to him? In Wales?
Manfredo is dead fucking meat. End of story.
Re: A question about Manfredo Jr to my fellow forum members
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Originally Posted by diamonddavestafford
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
Well i look at it like this. Manfredo lost to Mora not once but twice. Sure he got a bad decision the second time but he still didnt do enough to convince the judges, so he lost. He is not The Contender, he is just the runner up. If he had that much trouble with Mora and before that, the Mexican kid (i forget his name the guy that eliminated Manfredo the first time), what do you think Joe Calzaghe is gonna do to him? In Wales?
Manfredo is dead fucking meat. End of story.
How close have you watched him since he #1 took on Freddy Roach as his trainer #2 Moved up to SMW
Sounds like your flying blind if the Contender is your palet of knowledge 8)
FUnny conversation on Yahoo IM i had with my friend about Manfredo/Calzaghe...
...and JT/Mora
d s: the guy who won contender- sergio mora is supposed to fight jermaine taylor as well
d s: another sacrifice
djbama: lol
djbama: well they trying to eat
djbama: so they gots to do it
djbama: maybe pull off an upset
d s: they will never eat again cuz theyre gonna have to use a straw and drink they meals
d s: maybe if JT and joe calzaghe come down with leukemia they will get an upset
d s: but probly not even then
djbama: LMAO
djbama: damn
djbama: you love rocky
djbama: what about the underdog
d s: im being realistic
d s: and i dont like fighters that get big fights based on their media exposure and hype
d s: mora and manfredo are gettin this because they are worth more money to fight than the #1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 real contenders because they were on a reality show
d s: and the average couch potato can say oooh
d s: lets root for peter
d s: well im gonna watch
d s: but im watchin to see peter get carried out
djbama: exactly
d s: i would rather see a good fight against the number one seat
d s: calzaghe and jermaine taylor should be fightin eachother
d s: or JT should be fighting Winky Wright again
d s: and Calzaghe should be fighting Mikkel Kessler
djbama: you know boxing is about $$$
djbama: so waht ever sells is gonna be the fight
d s: JT/Calzaghe would be worth waaaay more money
d s: but they want to take the easy fights
djbama: lol
djbama: you are a ruff mofo
djbama: they trying to build street cred
d s: no fuck that. they are both undefeated world champions. they should be fighting the best.
djbama: before a big fight
d s: i can understand the contener fools takin it. they should.
d s: but they dont deserve a shot yet
d s: neither has fought anyone good
d s: so they are gonna get thrown in with the best and get crucified. im gonna laugh.
djbama: whens the fight
d s: one is April 7 on HBO
d s: other hasnt been made official just yet
d s: probly when Taylor sees how much criticism Joe Calzaghe gets for fighting such a bum, he will change his mind.
djbama: no
djbama: cause if he backs out
djbama: he'll look like a bitch
d s: lol not if he takes a tougher opponent
djbama: true
djbama: but you aint gonna get it
djbama: they need to build up the fight
d s: we will see. his last opponent was way way tougher than Mora is
djbama: and what would the hype be ?
d s: i dont know...
d s: something like this...picture that dudes voice who does all the voice overs for the movie previews...
d s: "...He almost won the Contender..."
d s: "...now..."
d s: "...Peter Manfredo..."
d s: "...has signed his death certificate..."
d s: "...many say the excitement of boxing is the presence of death in the air...
d s: ...Saturday, April 7...
d s: ...tune in to witness Peter Manfredo's final moments."
d s: "TODAY'S A GOOD DAY TO DIE."
d s: "Calzaghe vs. Manfredo. Live on HBO, Saturday April 7."
d s: picture that dudes voice who does all the voice overs for the movie previews.
Re: A question about Manfredo Jr to my fellow forum members
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Originally Posted by killersheep
Here's how the heroes odds are (all who have said they will step-up in competition)
Junior Witter = -2000 = 1/20
Arturo Morua = +800 = 8/1
Ricky Hatton = -1000 = 1/10
Juan Urango = +600 = 6/1
Joe Calzaghe = -2000 = 1/20
Peter Manfredo Jr. = +1000 = 10/1
These are not my odds, these are from vegas.
a little off topic but morua may not be a bad bet. he is better than his record shows, def. has a better chance than 8/1.
Re: A question about Manfredo Jr to my fellow forum members
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Originally Posted by bgordon
Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Here's how the heroes odds are (all who have said they will step-up in competition)
Junior Witter = -2000 = 1/20
Arturo Morua = +800 = 8/1
Ricky Hatton = -1000 = 1/10
Juan Urango = +600 = 6/1
Joe Calzaghe = -2000 = 1/20
Peter Manfredo Jr. = +1000 = 10/1
These are not my odds, these are from vegas.
a little off topic but morua may not be a bad bet. he is better than his record shows, def. has a better chance than 8/1.
Careful though, he doesn't have knockout power and is fighting on Witter's home turf...................
Re: FUnny conversation on Yahoo IM i had with my friend about Manfredo/Calzaghe
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Originally Posted by diamonddavestafford
...and JT/Mora
d s: the guy who won contender- sergio mora is supposed to fight jermaine taylor as well
d s: another sacrifice
djbama: lol
djbama: well they trying to eat
djbama: so they gots to do it
djbama: maybe pull off an upset
d s: they will never eat again cuz theyre gonna have to use a straw and drink they meals
d s: maybe if JT and joe calzaghe come down with leukemia they will get an upset
d s: but probly not even then
djbama: LMAO
djbama: damn
djbama: you love rocky
djbama: what about the underdog
d s: im being realistic
d s: and i dont like fighters that get big fights based on their media exposure and hype
d s: mora and manfredo are gettin this because they are worth more money to fight than the #1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 real contenders because they were on a reality show
d s: and the average couch potato can say oooh
d s: lets root for peter
d s: well im gonna watch
d s: but im watchin to see peter get carried out
djbama: exactly
d s: i would rather see a good fight against the number one seat
d s: calzaghe and jermaine taylor should be fightin eachother
d s: or JT should be fighting Winky Wright again
d s: and Calzaghe should be fighting Mikkel Kessler
djbama: you know boxing is about $$$
djbama: so waht ever sells is gonna be the fight
d s: JT/Calzaghe would be worth waaaay more money
d s: but they want to take the easy fights
djbama: lol
djbama: you are a ruff mofo
djbama: they trying to build street cred
d s: no fuck that. they are both undefeated world champions. they should be fighting the best.
djbama: before a big fight
d s: i can understand the contener fools takin it. they should.
d s: but they dont deserve a shot yet
d s: neither has fought anyone good
d s: so they are gonna get thrown in with the best and get crucified. im gonna laugh.
djbama: whens the fight
d s: one is April 7 on HBO
d s: other hasnt been made official just yet
d s: probly when Taylor sees how much criticism Joe Calzaghe gets for fighting such a bum, he will change his mind.
djbama: no
djbama: cause if he backs out
djbama: he'll look like a bitch
d s: lol not if he takes a tougher opponent
djbama: true
djbama: but you aint gonna get it
djbama: they need to build up the fight
d s: we will see. his last opponent was way way tougher than Mora is
djbama: and what would the hype be ?
d s: i dont know...
d s: something like this...picture that dudes voice who does all the voice overs for the movie previews...
d s: "...He almost won the Contender..."
d s: "...now..."
d s: "...Peter Manfredo..."
d s: "...has signed his death certificate..."
d s: "...many say the excitement of boxing is the presence of death in the air...
d s: ...Saturday, April 7...
d s: ...tune in to witness Peter Manfredo's final moments."
d s: "TODAY'S A GOOD DAY TO DIE."
d s: "Calzaghe vs. Manfredo. Live on HBO, Saturday April 7."
d s: picture that dudes voice who does all the voice overs for the movie previews.
You left out the funny part
Re: FUnny conversation on Yahoo IM i had with my friend about Manfredo/Calzaghe...
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Originally Posted by diamonddavestafford
...and JT/Mora
d s: the guy who won contender- sergio mora is supposed to fight jermaine taylor as well
d s: another sacrifice
djbama: lol
djbama: well they trying to eat
djbama: so they gots to do it
djbama: maybe pull off an upset
d s: they will never eat again cuz theyre gonna have to use a straw and drink they meals
d s: maybe if JT and joe calzaghe come down with leukemia they will get an upset
d s: but probly not even then
djbama: LMAO
djbama: damn
djbama: you love rocky
djbama: what about the underdog
d s: im being realistic
d s: and i dont like fighters that get big fights based on their media exposure and hype
d s: mora and manfredo are gettin this because they are worth more money to fight than the #1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 real contenders because they were on a reality show
d s: and the average couch potato can say oooh
d s: lets root for peter
d s: well im gonna watch
d s: but im watchin to see peter get carried out
djbama: exactly
d s: i would rather see a good fight against the number one seat
d s: calzaghe and jermaine taylor should be fightin eachother
d s: or JT should be fighting Winky Wright again
d s: and Calzaghe should be fighting Mikkel Kessler
djbama: you know boxing is about $$$
djbama: so waht ever sells is gonna be the fight
d s: JT/Calzaghe would be worth waaaay more money
d s: but they want to take the easy fights
djbama: lol
djbama: you are a ruff mofo
djbama: they trying to build street cred
d s: no fuck that. they are both undefeated world champions. they should be fighting the best.
djbama: before a big fight
d s: i can understand the contener fools takin it. they should.
d s: but they dont deserve a shot yet
d s: neither has fought anyone good
d s: so they are gonna get thrown in with the best and get crucified. im gonna laugh.
djbama: whens the fight
d s: one is April 7 on HBO
d s: other hasnt been made official just yet
d s: probly when Taylor sees how much criticism Joe Calzaghe gets for fighting such a bum, he will change his mind.
djbama: no
djbama: cause if he backs out
djbama: he'll look like a bitch
d s: lol not if he takes a tougher opponent
djbama: true
djbama: but you aint gonna get it
djbama: they need to build up the fight
d s: we will see. his last opponent was way way tougher than Mora is
djbama: and what would the hype be ?
d s: i dont know...
d s: something like this...picture that dudes voice who does all the voice overs for the movie previews...
d s: "...He almost won the Contender..."
d s: "...now..."
d s: "...Peter Manfredo..."
d s: "...has signed his death certificate..."
d s: "...many say the excitement of boxing is the presence of death in the air...
d s: ...Saturday, April 7...
d s: ...tune in to witness Peter Manfredo's final moments."
d s: "TODAY'S A GOOD DAY TO DIE."
d s: "Calzaghe vs. Manfredo. Live on HBO, Saturday April 7."
d s: picture that dudes voice who does all the voice overs for the movie previews.
What is this crap... Don't taint the forum with outside trash
Re: FUnny conversation on Yahoo IM i had with my friend about Manfredo/Calzaghe...
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Originally Posted by "PRIDE OF BOSTON"
Quote:
Originally Posted by diamonddavestafford
...and JT/Mora
d s: the guy who won contender- sergio mora is supposed to fight jermaine taylor as well
d s: another sacrifice
djbama: lol
djbama: well they trying to eat
djbama: so they gots to do it
djbama: maybe pull off an upset
d s: they will never eat again cuz theyre gonna have to use a straw and drink they meals
d s: maybe if JT and joe calzaghe come down with leukemia they will get an upset
d s: but probly not even then
djbama: LMAO
djbama: damn
djbama: you love rocky
djbama: what about the underdog
d s: im being realistic
d s: and i dont like fighters that get big fights based on their media exposure and hype
d s: mora and manfredo are gettin this because they are worth more money to fight than the #1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 real contenders because they were on a reality show
d s: and the average couch potato can say oooh
d s: lets root for peter
d s: well im gonna watch
d s: but im watchin to see peter get carried out
djbama: exactly
d s: i would rather see a good fight against the number one seat
d s: calzaghe and jermaine taylor should be fightin eachother
d s: or JT should be fighting Winky Wright again
d s: and Calzaghe should be fighting Mikkel Kessler
djbama: you know boxing is about $$$
djbama: so waht ever sells is gonna be the fight
d s: JT/Calzaghe would be worth waaaay more money
d s: but they want to take the easy fights
djbama: lol
djbama: you are a ruff mofo
djbama: they trying to build street cred
d s: no F*** that. they are both undefeated world champions. they should be fighting the best.
djbama: before a big fight
d s: i can understand the contener fools takin it. they should.
d s: but they dont deserve a shot yet
d s: neither has fought anyone good
d s: so they are gonna get thrown in with the best and get crucified. im gonna laugh.
djbama: whens the fight
d s: one is April 7 on HBO
d s: other hasnt been made official just yet
d s: probly when Taylor sees how much criticism Joe Calzaghe gets for fighting such a bum, he will change his mind.
djbama: no
djbama: cause if he backs out
djbama: he'll look like a bitch
d s: lol not if he takes a tougher opponent
djbama: true
djbama: but you aint gonna get it
djbama: they need to build up the fight
d s: we will see. his last opponent was way way tougher than Mora is
djbama: and what would the hype be ?
d s: i dont know...
d s: something like this...picture that dudes voice who does all the voice overs for the movie previews...
d s: "...He almost won the Contender..."
d s: "...now..."
d s: "...Peter Manfredo..."
d s: "...has signed his death certificate..."
d s: "...many say the excitement of boxing is the presence of death in the air...
d s: ...Saturday, April 7...
d s: ...tune in to witness Peter Manfredo's final moments."
d s: "TODAY'S A GOOD DAY TO DIE."
d s: "Calzaghe vs. Manfredo. Live on HBO, Saturday April 7."
d s: picture that dudes voice who does all the voice overs for the movie previews.
What is this crap... Don't taint the forum with outside trash
ok sorry...maybe i went a lil overboard with that...i like to talk trash sometimes when i think it is due and by taking such easy opponents because of their popularity rather than their ability some trash talking is due in this instance. didnt mean to offend anyone or make them sad. again, all apologies.
Re: A question about Manfredo Jr to my fellow forum members
It would be a huge upset. I don't think anyones opinion of Manfredo will improve all that much. Maybe for a minute but as soon as the hoopla ends so would his band wagon. I think that you would see more people saying I told you so concerning Calzaghe
Re: A question about Manfredo Jr to my fellow forum members
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Here's how the heroes odds are (all who have said they will step-up in competition)
Junior Witter = -2000 = 1/20
Arturo Morua = +800 = 8/1
Ricky Hatton = -1000 = 1/10
Juan Urango = +600 = 6/1
Joe Calzaghe = -2000 = 1/20
Peter Manfredo Jr. = +1000 = 10/1
These are not my odds, these are from vegas.
Morua, Urango and Manfredo. Damn these British fighters sure do fight the best. Who needs Harris, Collazo and Kessler? Nobody wants to see them. Morua, Urango and Manfredo. Now those are names people know. Them the money fights.............
Lord have mercy on the British
Vivan harris?
could be totaly wrong here, but thought morua was a mand? not certain if i read/heard that one, anyone know for sure?
