Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
You know, I'm wondering if Toney left his fight in the gym, is too old or he just fought dizzy the entire fight cause he was not in it at all. He got hit hard in the first round and heprobably never truly got a chance to fully recover due to Peters reletless assault. He kept the jab in his face all night so that's tough. I like Toney though man, I really didn't wanna see him go out like that.
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
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I would like to see a third match, I think Toney would really take it seriously after getting his a** handed to him twice. I think he would actually drop down in weight with serious conditioning work.
if fitness guru billy blanks can make carmen elektra so fuckable but cant do anything for toney then theres no hope conditioning wise for toney.
who's next richard simmons????? richard simmons will get toneys weight down to 220lbs????
James didn't ask him to get his weight down though ;)
oh so he was only eating 1500 calories a day and salad only just for his health then? LOL
True, but it seems like he was putting James Toney on the weights instead of the treadmill
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
I know this is a bit off topic but I dont think there was anyway Toney was on a diet of just 1500 calories,he weighed in a pound heavier than his last fight,no doubt by the the look of him he had been doing more work but if he had really been on a 1500 daily calorie allowance and doing all the cardio work he was supposed to be doing he would have come in much lighter,looks like he was pretty much hitting the weights and on a high protien diet.One thing Iv learned over the years concerning fighters being serious about training ect,Never believe the hype.
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
I don't know what you guys are talking about, I've always been a Toney fan but he looked like a fat ass slob just like the first fight but his performance was much worse. You don't go on a 1500 calorie diet and actually run and do more training and still come in heavier. ( 1500 calorie diet, my ass ) I gave Toney 3 rds in that fight and I think I might have been generous with one rd. He's still slick for a fat 38 yr old slob but he can't move like he used too carrying all that blubber around. I also think people are given way to much credit to Peter, he beat an old slow really out of shape fighter and people act like he's a world beater. I think Toney won the first fight and lost the second one big, so I consider them one and one but I have no desire to see a third fight. If Toney couldn't get in shape for this one what makes anyone think he would get real serious to get in shape for a third fight. Peter wins even easier if another fight ever happens.
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
Blanks probably gave him a running regiment to run and left it at that, and Toney probably around the bend and cut through the woods and set down out of Blanks sight and ate a snickers and then continued from the short cut to the finishing line. ;)
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
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Blanks probably gave him a running regiment to run and left it at that, and Toney probably around the bend and cut through the woods and set down out of Blanks sight and ate a snickers and then continued from the short cut to the finishing line. ;)
all i can say to that pic :appl: :army: lol
BTW how do you give a cool click??
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
Damnnnn..You guys are haters...
I had toney wayy in the fight..
Check out my thread ..i had the fight close..Not pretending toney didnt loose but you cant dispute my scoring cos its all explained in it..
Its..BIG issues with peter-toney.etc...
Mann..So what peter beat toney with a fair margine..Aside from peter and vlad..Who the fwok even touches toney in the division? Noone..Specially if he stays with blanks..it'll take a couple of fights to get james into real shape and no matter how long it takes ..As long as he doesnt let go of the good training he's been achieving..A few more fights.. entertaining ones..A world title.. and retirement..
If it were up to me James would already be a hall of famer.. There's no dispute on his impact on our generation.. he always has and always will fight the best
Peace
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
I was so mad at Toney's weigh in being a pound HEAVIER!
He was slow and couldn't move! ran out of gas.
I AM PISSED AT THIS FAT B@STARD!
All the skill and talent in the world gone to waste!
Hall of fame??
Hall of shame is more like it!
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
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I was so mad at Toney's weigh in being a pound HEAVIER!
He was slow and couldn't move! ran out of gas.
I AM PISSED AT THIS FAT B@STARD!
All the skill and talent in the world gone to waste!
Hall of fame??
Hall of shame is more like it!
::** ...Yuh hall of shame...
So how did he manage to look better then last fight..But weigh a pound heavyer?..
Perhaps because muscle is heavyer then fat ? ..Exactly.. ;)
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
Toney s so full of him self, i just wanna whip the fat fuk myself.....this is the 2nd time peter beat his ass (only this time it was 10-2 in my oppinion ) toney IMo wont do anything at heavy even in shape/ Guys like klit and peter will finger his ass no prob---hmmm, against maskaev --close fight , toney wins decision and briggs would have to knock him out to win cuz he cant really win rounds being asmethic so toney fudgepaks his ass too....but he aint unifying no way..,,
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Toney s so full of him self, i just wanna whip the fat fuk myself.....this is the 2nd time peter beat his ass (only this time it was 10-2 in my oppinion ) toney IMo wont do anything at heavy even in shape/ Guys like klit and peter will finger his ass no prob---hmmm, against maskaev --close fight , toney wins decision and briggs would have to knock him out to win cuz he cant really win rounds being asmethic so toney fudgepaks his ass too....but he aint unifying no way..,,
Urr thats exactly my point..Sam is a big bad man..Very young..James won one..But cant claim it..And although i dispute the scoring of the second..Theres no way he won..
Vlad is prime right now and although i dont count james out i still think he gets ud'd ..Since james..or any counter puncher in general finds it hard to counter punch somone who stands so tall..
But Toney embarasses maskaev..
And beats Briggs gets clearly beaten...
Brigg's only shot is a knockout..And nobody has ever knocked toney out...
Hes not been legitimately knocked off his feet since '91 in a fight that he won...
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Hey Tito,Im with ya! i figured Toney to win this easy if he came in at say 225. Shut up the nay sayers, whip peters, move on.
He did none of the above.
Fat lazy bastard!
He should get down to 190 and rule at cruiser then retire.
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Originally Posted by landmine950
Hey Tito,Im with ya! i figured Toney to win this easy if he came in at say 225. Shut up the nay sayers, whip peters, move on.
He did none of the above.
Fat lazy bastard!
He should get down to 190 and rule at cruiser then retire.
Not that toney can..But if he could..He shouldnt drop weight at this age..
He'll be weight drained and shot overnight...
He needs to do what james toney do..Fight the best..
He's fought sam..and theres no way back for that now.. The future is..Keep training with blanks couple fights time he'll do good..Peter is gona knock oleg sparko...
And valuev is going to be retired by vlad most probably..
In my opinion.. Take out chagaev..Up and comer..
Take maskaev since he aint the champ no more..(This in the future)..
And either and/or if (lol) if briggs is still wearing that title belt.. Go take apart briggs..
All these are simple wins for james toney..But they secure a legacy and the world heavyweight title he is capable of holding.. Lets note i said capable..
as in.. Rahman was on a platter and james was too out of shape to be busy enough to take a few rounds that should have been his...
And he had the idiocy to be fucking with illegal substance too close to the ruiz fight..
Peace
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
HE does not have the pop at heavy.
face it.
He can't get the guys out of there.
He's had 4 chances to show what he could do, all he showed is that he's a fat,gluttonous,lazy, loudmouth.
If you wanna talk the talk, baby ya'd better walk the walk
Packing 100lb of muscle onto a 150 lb frame isn't the answer.
It wont work, hes too short, too small, too bulked up,
and mostly.....too fat.
He's trying to do the impossible and only 1/2 trying.
THATS impossible
Hey baby! i was still a believer.....till i saw him step up to that scale! did you see my article?
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...html#msg495554
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
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Originally Posted by landmine950
HE does not have the pop at heavy.
face it.
He can't get the guys out of there.
He's had 4 chances to show what he could do, all he showed is that he's a fat,gluttonous,lazy, loudmouth.
If you wanna talk the talk, baby ya'd better walk the walk
Packing 100lb of muscle onto a 150 lb frame isn't the answer.
It wont work, hes too short, too small, too bulked up,
and mostly.....too fat.
He's trying to do the impossible and only 1/2 trying.
THATS impossible
Hey baby! i was still a believer.....till i saw him step up to that scale! did you see my article?
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...html#msg495554
::** ...Yeh i saw you put it up on a defferent thread and gave you crap for it..
That aint funny..Mann you got far too much time on your hands my brother..
Toney is more successful then most of the heavyweights out there...
Your just a flat out hater...