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Why cuz he's British? How the hell is he the second best Super Middleweight? Based on what? What the fuck has he done? Who has he beat? And the fact that all them other none deserving chumps got a shot, well all you got to do is blame the person responsible. Joe fucking Calzaghe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Ive never been a fan of Froch, but slowly hes winning me over. Hes a good fighter with a good eye, hed beat Manfredo comfortably
You have someone else in mind? Do tell and this conversation is over, I concede.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
froch defense isnt that great and with someone like calzaghe who has fast combos he would batter froch on his best day imo
I think Froch would stop Calzaghe.
He has acres more power than the farty light middle's & middles he's been fighting up until now....
...Ashira = 1 fight at super-middle (against Joe)
...Bika = 2 fights at super middle
...Manfredo = 2 fights at super middle
In the last 2.5 years he's fought 3 times and only once against a man his own weight...and is now fighting another, much much smaller and slower opponent - How can that be defended on this forum? a forum made up of GENUINE boxing fans Forget money (otherwise we might as well talk about LA Galaxy being a great football club)
People may mock Froch - but i admire him.
He is prepared to go the traditional route, English, British, Commonwealth, European & World titles...
Add to that his amateur career (he has medalled at many many events) and you have a good, strong pedigree.
He is instilling respect in the belts again - not jumping straight in for a phony WBU trinket - he's gone on record saying he'd never bother with them and would retire without a world belt than that.
Froch is not in a position to pick & choose his opponents like Joe Calzaghe - he will have to fight all the dangerous unbeaten boys en route to wherever he's going.
He is ranked inside the Top 5 with the WBC, WBA, IBF & WBO...
Far higher than Bika, Ashira & Manfredo - who have been and gone in the same space of time that Froch has called Joe out.
All i have to say is the longer JC leaves this fight the harder it would get for him. Froch is growing stronger and stronger each fight and some people would say he is hitting the stage called his prime. If JC came on full prepared and was throwing combos etc, he would beat Carl. But if JC took this lightly at all Carl would punish him and thats where he is the best, he is looking good in the fights and i really feel he would be one of the toughest fights JC could take at this stage. The longer JC leaves the fight the more im going to favour Froch.
thats all well and good but froch keeps his hands low constantly and with someone who has fast combos and is very active fighter throwing like 60+ punches a round thats dangerousQuote:
Originally Posted by CityOfGod
Noone else comes to mind - and that is obviously the reason why so many brits have jumped the Froch band-waggon despite Froch's shortcommings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
The brits have been so used to have a number of good SMW's to cheer for. But now that Calzaghe's carrer is nearing the end, there's noone to take over. So rather than accept they'll not be ruling SMW for some years to come, some brits try to imagine Froch being something he's not. Because he's the best they can come up with.
But no matter what praise they give Froch, it won't turn him into a world-beater.
well not being nasty but other than kessler is there any usa fighters or any other country in smw division thats good at the moment ?? froch is decent fighter but he has shite defence and he will get beaten badly by elite if he doesnt improve on that defenceQuote:
Originally Posted by dumdane
No it's not that other nations are doing particularly better. That's not the point. The point is that the UK has been so spoiled with good SMW's, that the lack of a decent replacement for Calzaghe comes as a bit of a shock to some brits.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
I just think it's bloody useless trying to hype Froch into something he's not.
Apart from that I have to admit that i just can't stand Froch because of the way he acts. And i can't stand the way so many are prepared to eat his BS raw.
froch is ready for a fight with a taylor, kessler or lacy but not a calzaghe.
Yeah obviously - Since he was able to beat SMW no 127 rated Dodson in his last fight, he clearly MUST be ready to fight those ppl. ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by tommygunn
Froch has really shown the world that he can hold his own with the very best ;D
Allan Green would smoke Froch. So would AndradeQuote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
I just highlighted some text from my initial quote, I didnt say world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Never seen Andrade so it would be unfair to commentbut Allan Green would get taken out in horrible fashion. His dodgy chin and Froch's heavy hands would be a bad combination.
Fine you want to call Froch second best SM in Britain. Go ahead. Still doesn't mean he deserves a title shot. He's as unworthy as ManfredoQuote:
Originally Posted by Memphis