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I think I'm gonna throw up! :-X
Also Wacko, let us not forget the complete fukin CRAP Vitali pulled last time. He made a whopping ONE title defense against fat ass Danny Williams then postponed, postponed again, then postponed again, then retired rather than fight Hasim Rahman. God, I hate the Klitschkos. And HBO. And their undying love and hype of those two robotic fuckers... ::**
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Re: Direct from Vitali Klitschko: I’m Back!
I like Vitali and think he could have beaten just about any heavyweight out there. He cannot be called a great though because his tenure and authority on the division was never really complete...
Re: Direct from Vitali Klitschko: I’m Back!
This is a great time for HW. The top 5 now would be a handful for any era. Valuev outweighs the old masters w 150 pounds - that cannot be compensated for. Ali who could barely get through 190 pound henry cooper would be crushed by Vitaly.
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This is a great time for HW. The top 5 now would be a handful for any era. Valuev outweighs the old masters w 150 pounds - that cannot be compensated for. Ali who could barely get through 190 pound henry cooper would be crushed by Vitaly.
Bigger doesnt neccessarily equate with being better...I think Ali would have been able to dance rings around Valuev. As for Vitali, thats a difficult one for me. He actually has very decent skills and his size comes along with a decent jab, an iron chin and power.
I hate comparing fighters from different generations.
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This is a great time for HW. The top 5 now would be a handful for any era. Valuev outweighs the old masters w 150 pounds - that cannot be compensated for. Ali who could barely get through 190 pound henry cooper would be crushed by Vitaly.
Bigger doesnt neccessarily equate with being better...I think Ali would have been able to dance rings around Valuev. As for Vitali, thats a difficult one for me. He actually has very decent skills and his size comes along with a decent jab, an iron chin and power.
I hate comparing fighters from different generations.
yes me too, I just want to remind us about not being too negative. Imagine a guy like 6.3 Maskaev or Vitaly in any era they would have been forces. Vitaly is quick for his size - and I love his his style- hands down, shoulder up, confidence. A whole Size bigger than BIg George and w some defence.
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Vitaly vs Ali - I would say Vitaly 8 of 10.
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Vitali Klitschko - The most overrated heavyweight of all time
Man, Vitali was the bomb. He was flat out out boxing Lennox Lewis for crying out loud until his eye stopped him. There's so many more deserving candidates for most overated of all time than Dr. Iron Fist.
WHAT?? dude...give your head a shake so we can hear the pebbles rattle..
His eye gave out? LMFAO!! WTF is that!!
lmao!! "his eye gave out!!!" in lauging so hard im crying!!
Let me guess!? his cheek "gave" out? lmao and his big fat split lip?? haa haaa...gave out???
DUDE. the only "giving out" in that fight was the serious and total "BEATDOWN: that Lennox Lewis "gave out" to Vitali!
the only thing that gives out on Klitschkos...is their B@LLS!
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mmm... wonder if I made a new friend?
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Vitaly vs Ali - I would say Vitaly 8 of 10.
You may well be right. But there is always the element of how much more could the great of yesterday do if pushed to the limits? It might mean being stopped, or it might mean something very special to upset the odds. Always the element of the unknown.
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I'm fine with him coming back but not jumping Peter to fight Maskaev. Let him fight Briggs.
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Vitaly vs Ali - I would say Vitaly 8 of 10.
You may well be right. But there is always the element of how much more could the great of yesterday do if pushed to the limits? It might mean being stopped, or it might mean something very special to upset the odds. Always the element of the unknown.
My God. This is a sad day for boxing fans. I like ya Miles, I expect more outta you man. Vitali beat Muhammad Ali? Is it April fools alread? No, I didn't think so. NO fukin way in hell does Vitali even win much more than a round or two against Ali. Ali would make him quit. Vitali would not come out of his corner after about 8 rounds of beating that Ali would put on him. Big George would KO him rather quickly. His jaw ain't steel. Not by any means. Corey Sanders wobbled him several times, but did not have the air to finish him the fatty. Why people think the man has a great jaw is beyond me. Yes he has a better chin than that of his brother, but so does my grandmother.
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Vitaly vs Ali - I would say Vitaly 8 of 10.
You may well be right. But there is always the element of how much more could the great of yesterday do if pushed to the limits? It might mean being stopped, or it might mean something very special to upset the odds. Always the element of the unknown.
My God. This is a sad day for boxing fans. I like ya Miles, I expect more outta you man. Vitali beat Muhammad Ali? Is it April fools alread? No, I didn't think so. NO fukin way in hell does Vitali even win much more than a round or two against Ali. Ali would make him quit. Vitali would not come out of his corner after about 8 rounds of beating that Ali would put on him. Big George would KO him rather quickly. His jaw ain't steel. Not by any means. Corey Sanders wobbled him several times, but did not have the air to finish him the fatty. Why people think the man has a great jaw is beyond me. Yes he has a better chin than that of his brother, but so does my grandmother.
word? your granny has a better chin than wlad? was she ever good in her prime? what weight class hulk?
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Vitaly vs Ali - I would say Vitaly 8 of 10.
You may well be right. But there is always the element of how much more could the great of yesterday do if pushed to the limits? It might mean being stopped, or it might mean something very special to upset the odds. Always the element of the unknown.
My God. This is a sad day for boxing fans. I like ya Miles, I expect more outta you man. Vitali beat Muhammad Ali? Is it April fools alread? No, I didn't think so. NO fukin way in hell does Vitali even win much more than a round or two against Ali. Ali would make him quit. Vitali would not come out of his corner after about 8 rounds of beating that Ali would put on him. Big George would KO him rather quickly. His jaw ain't steel. Not by any means. Corey Sanders wobbled him several times, but did not have the air to finish him the fatty. Why people think the man has a great jaw is beyond me. Yes he has a better chin than that of his brother, but so does my grandmother.
I was standing on the fence and accepting the unknowable aspect of it all. I was simply condeding that the other guy had a chance of being right and I might be wrong. Ali had never faced anybody the size of Vitali and who is able to impose his jab and distance so well and who has a sturdy chin as well to boot. Ali wouldnt be knocking Vitali out. Ali was a force of nature and may very well have been able to work a decision. I think this is a possibility also. But as always in these cross generational matchups there are the unknown factors and we just dont know how they would interact come fight time. The Ali that fought Foreman would have a shot, but he's got to work on that huge reach advantage that Vitali possseses....
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Vitaly vs Ali - I would say Vitaly 8 of 10.
You may well be right. But there is always the element of how much more could the great of yesterday do if pushed to the limits? It might mean being stopped, or it might mean something very special to upset the odds. Always the element of the unknown.
My God. This is a sad day for boxing fans. I like ya Miles, I expect more outta you man. Vitali beat Muhammad Ali? Is it April fools alread? No, I didn't think so. NO fukin way in hell does Vitali even win much more than a round or two against Ali. Ali would make him quit. Vitali would not come out of his corner after about 8 rounds of beating that Ali would put on him. Big George would KO him rather quickly. His jaw ain't steel. Not by any means. Corey Sanders wobbled him several times, but did not have the air to finish him the fatty. Why people think the man has a great jaw is beyond me. Yes he has a better chin than that of his brother, but so does my grandmother.
I was standing on the fence and accepting the unknowable aspect of it all. I was simply condeding that the other guy had a chance of being right and I might be wrong. Ali had never faced anybody the size of Vitali and who is able to impose his jab and distance so well and who has a sturdy chin as well to boot. Ali wouldnt be knocking Vitali out. Ali was a force of nature and may very well have been able to work a decision. I think this is a possibility also. But as always in these cross generational matchups there are the unknown factors and we just dont know how they would interact come fight time. The Ali that fought Foreman would have a shot, but he's got to work on that huge reach advantage that Vitali possseses....
Vitali is a freakin amatuer compared to Ali. I mean who the fuk is Vitali? He made one defense of his title he won from outta shape fringe contender Corey Sanders, against totally outta shape Danny Williams. Primo Carnera was bigger than Vitali, and almost as clumsey and Max Bear DESTROYED him. Jess Willard was much larger than Jack Dempsey and Dempsey DESTROYED him. Now Ali would not DESTROY Vitali with power, but he would outbox him silly, cut him to ribbons and make him or his corner stop the fight. The class difernce between the two would be way too much for Vitali to overcome, he'd be smoked.
