Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
How about Evander Holyfield in the June ?? bye bye Peter ! O0
I know you're not suggesting that Evander beats Peter. I'm sorry but this older version of Holyfield with his semi brawling style will not last too long against Peter.
I am suggesting that Peter would get knocked out inside 8 rounds !!! :o and no I aint drinking ! ;) Now that Evander is healed up and can utilize his left hand he is going to be pure hell ! Peter is perfect for Evander right now ! Peter is still raw enough where Evander can take advantage ! O0
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
How about Evander Holyfield in the June ?? bye bye Peter ! O0
I know you're not suggesting that Evander beats Peter. I'm sorry but this older version of Holyfield with his semi brawling style will not last too long against Peter.
I am suggesting that Peter would get knocked out inside 8 rounds !!! :o and no I aint drinking ! ;) Now that Evander is healed up and can utilize his left hand he is going to be pure hell ! Peter is perfect for Evander right now ! Peter is still raw enough where Evander can take advantage ! O0
Good one bro. You almost had me believing you were serious. lol
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
How about Evander Holyfield in the June ?? bye bye Peter ! O0
I know you're not suggesting that Evander beats Peter. I'm sorry but this older version of Holyfield with his semi brawling style will not last too long against Peter.
I am suggesting that Peter would get knocked out inside 8 rounds !!! :o and no I aint drinking ! ;) Now that Evander is healed up and can utilize his left hand he is going to be pure hell ! Peter is perfect for Evander right now ! Peter is still raw enough where Evander can take advantage ! O0
Good one bro. You almost had me believing you were serious. lol
;) Truth be told .. I know its a hard pill to swallow ! O0
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
Hey Lords,
I don't know what pills you are swallowing, but maybe you should try some of the green stuff.
Holyfield looked average at best against Oquendo, and Freddie looked horrible. Truth be told, Holyfield only fights for half of each round. Holyfield was KD'd by Johh Ruiz, and was only wobbled in the 12th round by the litteKlit... where do you see this victory?
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
i really dont think there is one that can beat Sam Peter right now, holy got NO chance there.. he is the next star in heawyweights, and should get his shot against maskaev before that fraud clit
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
anyone know where peter is ranked with the WBA? the lick the wbc's ass so im guessing fairly high up?
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
Vitali can beat all those guys but I'd like Vitali to fight Chris Byrd again and avenge his loss, I am sure he would but who knows if Byrd wants to fight any more Klitschko's.
Bx730Ny, Vitali has been hurt, he is now healed perhaps he should take a warm up fight but let me tell you if Peter was to beat Maskaev and Vitali fought Sam Peter it would be an absolute ASS WHIPPING and you delusional Sam Peter fans need to realize #1 Vitali has never been knocked down, #2 Sam still throws wide loopy punches when he's throwing for effect #3 Sam Peter is still easy to hit!
I do think it's a tough call for who should get the title shot but Sam Peter fans are so angry about his being shafted to really take time to think about it. Sam deserves a shot and honestly Vitali deserves a shot to as it was promised to him!
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Vitali can beat all those guys but I'd like Vitali to fight Chris Byrd again and avenge his loss, I am sure he would but who knows if Byrd wants to fight any more Klitschko's.
Bx730Ny, Vitali has been hurt, he is now healed perhaps he should take a warm up fight but let me tell you if Peter was to beat Maskaev and Vitali fought Sam Peter it would be an absolute a** WHIPPING and you delusional Sam Peter fans need to realize #1 Vitali has never been knocked down, #2 Sam still throws wide loopy punches when he's throwing for effect #3 Sam Peter is still easy to hit!
I do think it's a tough call for who should get the title shot but Sam Peter fans are so angry about his being shafted to really take time to think about it. Sam deserves a shot and honestly Vitali deserves a shot to as it was promised to him!
vitali wants to fight Maskaev because he knows that is the only way the klit brothers can both hold titles at the same time. vitali can't beat any of the other champs that's why he wants the chump. He waited until Peter beats Toney the second time to announce that cause he was banking on Toney winning. He knows he can't beat Peter so he wants to win it from Maskaev so even he loses or if he decides to retire again, he's ok with that cause they did what they set out to do and they're happy with that. That's why I no longer respect either klit as a real champ.
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
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Originally Posted by Lyle
I do feel for the guy, he's a good nice person and has worked hard to earn a shot at the WBC title however since the recent events here's what I think he should do.
These fighters are free to fight Sam Peter.
Sergei Lyakhovich, he's a former champ and a good hard fight. If he was able to KO Sergei it would mean a showdown with Briggs.
Lamon Brewster, he's coming back, he is tough but beatable and it would mean a lot to beat him
Chris Byrd, he's older, he's another slick boxer, and he's VERY difficult to KO. If Sam Peter was able to beat him then I would have a HUGE amount of respect for the leaps he has made in his skill.
John Ruiz, a VERY difficult fighter to beat and very game. It would mean a lot to beat him.
Calvin Brock, a young gun eager to get another title shot or big fight. Wlad had some trouble with him, if Peter was able to have an easier time then he would look REALLY good.
Tye Fields, he's a vet a very tall guy and pretty strong however he's not on the level of Briggs or the Klitschko's but being able to box well and KO a good boxer that's as big as him is a feat anytime it's done.
Brock, Byrd or Liakovich....either of these 3 would do wonders for him.....a win over a fat middleweight didn't give him the "Pop" he needs to justify the rankings.
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
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Originally Posted by Lyle
I do feel for the guy, he's a good nice person and has worked hard to earn a shot at the WBC title however since the recent events here's what I think he should do.
These fighters are free to fight Sam Peter.
Sergei Lyakhovich, he's a former champ and a good hard fight. If he was able to KO Sergei it would mean a showdown with Briggs.
Lamon Brewster, he's coming back, he is tough but beatable and it would mean a lot to beat him
Chris Byrd, he's older, he's another slick boxer, and he's VERY difficult to KO. If Sam Peter was able to beat him then I would have a HUGE amount of respect for the leaps he has made in his skill.
John Ruiz, a VERY difficult fighter to beat and very game. It would mean a lot to beat him.
Calvin Brock, a young gun eager to get another title shot or big fight. Wlad had some trouble with him, if Peter was able to have an easier time then he would look REALLY good.
Tye Fields, he's a vet a very tall guy and pretty strong however he's not on the level of Briggs or the Klitschko's but being able to box well and KO a good boxer that's as big as him is a feat anytime it's done.
I don't think he has to fight, nor do I think he should jump ship and try to get a WBO championship fight.
His mandatory will happen and just getting pushed back in line might make that fight more $$. I thnk it's too risky to fight anyone else and he should just be patient. His time will come and this minor setback will be a good thing later down the road.
I would like to see him fight many of the fighters listed in this thread, but not until he is the champ.
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
Good thread. Personally i'd LOVE to see Peter against Brewster.
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
vitali wants to fight Maskaev because he knows that is the only way the klit brothers can both hold titles at the same time. vitali can't beat any of the other champs that's why he wants the chump. He waited until Peter beats Toney the second time to announce that cause he was banking on Toney winning. He knows he can't beat Peter so he wants to win it from Maskaev so even he loses or if he decides to retire again, he's ok with that cause they did what they set out to do and they're happy with that. That's why I no longer respect either klit as a real champ.
You're a dumbass and you're just angry that Sam no longer has his title shot...the anger I understand but you know God Damn well Vitali would beat the dreads off of Shannon Briggs and flat out destroy Nicolay Valuev!!!
Vitali is fighting Maskaev because he feels he has a score to settle no whether or not Sam Peter should get this shot or wait is up for debate as the shot was promised to both men!
We can't afford a box off because who knows if Maskaev can win vs whoever he fights.
I think you Peter fans are more pissed because if Sam couldn't beat Wladimir then he sure as hell can't beat Vitali!!!
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
vitali wants to fight Maskaev because he knows that is the only way the klit brothers can both hold titles at the same time. vitali can't beat any of the other champs that's why he wants the chump. He waited until Peter beats Toney the second time to announce that cause he was banking on Toney winning. He knows he can't beat Peter so he wants to win it from Maskaev so even he loses or if he decides to retire again, he's ok with that cause they did what they set out to do and they're happy with that. That's why I no longer respect either klit as a real champ.
Sam couldn't beat Wladimir then he sure as hell can't beat Vitali!!!
Agreed , I would be very surprised if Peter would beat Vitali , Vitali is Iron clad, loves to fight and can take a punch ! Peter is still too raw and would find himself in deep waters in my humble opinion . Sam is still very wide with his shots .
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
vitali wants to fight Maskaev because he knows that is the only way the klit brothers can both hold titles at the same time. vitali can't beat any of the other champs that's why he wants the chump. He waited until Peter beats Toney the second time to announce that cause he was banking on Toney winning. He knows he can't beat Peter so he wants to win it from Maskaev so even he loses or if he decides to retire again, he's ok with that cause they did what they set out to do and they're happy with that. That's why I no longer respect either klit as a real champ.
You're a dumbass and you're just angry that Sam no longer has his title shot...the anger I understand but you know God Damn well Vitali would beat the dreads off of Shannon Briggs and flat out destroy Nicolay Valuev!!!
Vitali is fighting Maskaev because he feels he has a score to settle no whether or not Sam Peter should get this shot or wait is up for debate as the shot was promised to both men!
We can't afford a box off because who knows if Maskaev can win vs whoever he fights.
I think you Peter fans are more pissed because if Sam couldn't beat Wladimir then he sure as hell can't beat Vitali!!!
What "score" does Vitali have to settle with Maskaev, and Lyle, you know damn well that the Peter who lost to Wlad is not the same Peter fighting now. I wish Vitali would go beat up on Valuev or Briggs. He's clearly, easily better than both of them. I have nothing against seeing Wlad and Vitali hold belts at the same time. The bottom line is this: Peter fan or not Peter fan, if you are objective, you have to see that Peter is getting screwed. He earned his shot, and he should get it. I hate to say it, but only a nut-hugging Klitchko ballwasher could see differently. I'm no more of a Peter fan than I am a Klit fan. I like all the fighters here, and what's fair is fair.
Let Vitali take a warm up while Peter whips Oleg, and then they can both have a big old payday and we can get to arguing about Peter v Vit-Klit. That's the fair and sensible option. Unfortunately, boxing is often not fair or sensible.
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
The score is the amateur fight ALSO he and Wlad will be the first brothers to hold titles together at the same time.
Vitali was promised his shot "WHENEVER HE FELT THE URGE TO COME BACK".....that's not his fault but it is Sam Peter's bad luck.
The Peter fans need to realize Sam could beat other title holders out there and he has the weight to make a move and make a big fight happen but he'll waste his time bitching and end up fighting a nobody and then if he fights Vitali he'll get STOMPED ON.
The people in the wrong are the leaders of the WBC they promised title fights to two people it's not Vitali's fault if any FIGHTER is at fault it's Oleg Maskaev because he has the final say and I guess he wants to make a little bit of money before riding off into the sunset and Sam Peter fans would like to blame this all on Vitali......same as always it's the Klitschko's fault, yeah it's their fault because they are the big money fighters in the division