Re: Judah to face Cardona 4/27!
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
Mark my words, Judah WILL have a belt at 147 by the end of 2007. Let's go Judah, let's go!!!
Those are some big words man
His options would be
Winner of Mosley / Collazo (as interim champ) for the WBC
Miguel Cotto for the WBA
Kermit Cintron for the IBF
Antonio Margarito for the WBO
I see all of those fights being tough for Judah, none of these guys are pushovers.
Re: Judah to face Cardona 4/27!
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
Mark my words, Judah WILL have a belt at 147 by the end of 2007. Let's go Judah, let's go!!!
Those are some big words man
His options would be
Winner of Mosley / Collazo (as interim champ) for the WBC
Miguel Cotto for the WBA
Kermit Cintron for the IBF
Antonio Margarito for the WBO
I see all of those fights being tough for Judah, none of these guys are pushovers.
True but none are fights that he couldn't win either, and he would be with the exception of Mosley Collazo winner by FAR the most dangerous guy any of them have fought at 147.. You think Judah wouldn't give Cotto, Cintron, or Margarito hell? Id favour him to win those fights personally. And certainly all make for great matches. Judah is a punk but he is a very exciting and talented fighter, don't see why his name isn't tossed around for any potential fights these days.... I guess the problem is now that he's really a huge risk with low reward coming off the 2 losses people are quick to write him off.. Although I think the way he fought Floyd he may beat anyone but the pretty boy at 147..
Re: Zab to Fight Israel Cardona
If Judah fought for ANY belt right now it would probably be the vacant WBO belt Margarito is gonna leave
Re: Zab to Fight Israel Cardona
yo israel cardona is taking this fight. by ko. zab has no chin and pito has a lot of power
Re: Zab to Fight Israel Cardona
You can have alll the athletisism in the world but if you lack heart,if you lack courage and determination,you won't get far. Zab is a great example of that and he would get beaten by Cotto,Margarito etc. He should have to work his way back,I'm sick of seeing him being given so many shots without working for it.
Re: Zab to Fight Israel Cardona
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
You can have alll the athletisism in the world but if you lack heart,if you lack courage and determination,you won't get far. Zab is a great example of that and he would get beaten by Cotto,Margarito etc. He should have to work his way back,I'm sick of seeing him being given so many shots without working for it.
Dunno why you hate Zab so much bro, I like both him AND Cotto. Truth be told, Judah would be the absolute best fighter Cotto had ever faced, if they were to fight. And Cotto would stand a good chance of getting KO'd. He could KO Judah too, possibly. It could be a great fight. Judah is a very very good fighter, he gave PBF the second best fight of his career, and knocked him down. Zab Judah is quite capable of becoming a world champion a couple more times before his career is over, and I expect him to do just that.
Re: Zab to Fight Israel Cardona
I doubt Cotto would be KO'd by Judah....Miguel's defense is VERY GOOD (when he uses it). Zab couldn't take Miguel's pressure, it would be an EXTREMELY bad fight for him to take.
Re: Zab to Fight Israel Cardona
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
You can have alll the athletisism in the world but if you lack heart,if you lack courage and determination,you won't get far. Zab is a great example of that and he would get beaten by Cotto,Margarito etc. He should have to work his way back,I'm sick of seeing him being given so many shots without working for it.
Just as easy for me to say you can have all the heart, courage, and determination in the world, but if you lack athletisicm, ability, speed, timing, you'll never be anything more than a journeyman who will lose his only big fight to a real athlete like Cotto. Zab would KO Margarito, watch the Clottey fight again.. Margarito get's timed and beat to the punch easily before Clottey hurts his hand. And Judah is better than Clottey in most every way. Not as durable, but he is faster with more pop, and Id expect him to have Tony out by the mid rounds. Margarito is a total plodder, he doesn't have what it takes to beat Judah or Cotto. He is too slow, only throws wide shots, horrible defence and footspeed. I know we've had this arguement so many times but really the Clottey fight just displays what mediocre skills Tony really has. He's not beating any elite fighter, EVER.
Re: Zab to Fight Israel Cardona
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Originally Posted by Lyle
I doubt Cotto would be KO'd by Judah....Miguel's defense is VERY GOOD (when he uses it). Zab couldn't take Miguel's pressure, it would be an EXTREMELY bad fight for him to take.
Well, Zab is faster than Miguel, hits as hard as Miguel, is a better boxer than Miguel, is more talented than Miguel, though does not have as good as defense nore focus as Miguel. I think it would figure to be a very competitive fight. With someone probably gettin KO'd.
Re: Zab to Fight Israel Cardona
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
You can have alll the athletisism in the world but if you lack heart,if you lack courage and determination,you won't get far. Zab is a great example of that and he would get beaten by Cotto,Margarito etc. He should have to work his way back,I'm sick of seeing him being given so many shots without working for it.
Dunno why you hate Zab so much bro, I like both him AND Cotto. Truth be told, Judah would be the absolute best fighter Cotto had ever faced, if they were to fight. And Cotto would stand a good chance of getting KO'd. He could KO Judah too, possibly. It could be a great fight. Judah is a very very good fighter, he gave PBF the second best fight of his career, and knocked him down. Zab Judah is quite capable of becoming a world champion a couple more times before his career is over, and I expect him to do just that.
I don't hate Zab,I dislike his attitude but I believe him coming back will be good for 147,makes for even more great fights. And imo Zab only won 3-4 rounds v Floyd.
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Originally Posted by Lyle
I doubt Cotto would be KO'd by Judah....Miguel's defense is VERY GOOD (when he uses it). Zab couldn't take Miguel's pressure, it would be an EXTREMELY bad fight for him to take.
Agreed,well said.
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by Lyle
I doubt Cotto would be KO'd by Judah....Miguel's defense is VERY GOOD (when he uses it). Zab couldn't take Miguel's pressure, it would be an EXTREMELY bad fight for him to take.
Well, Zab is faster than Miguel, hits as hard as Miguel, is a better boxer than Miguel, is more talented than Miguel, though does not have as good as defense nore focus as Miguel. I think it would figure to be a very competitive fight. With someone probably gettin KO'd.
Zab's power is over rated at 147.I don't think he hits as hard as Cotto,and if PBF can hurt him to the body,Cotto would break him.And I don't think he is as talented as Cotto. I feel Cotto is the overall better fighter who has proven his heart too( v Torres) If you have a weak jaw,Cotto is the last person you want to face at 147.
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
You can have alll the athletisism in the world but if you lack heart,if you lack courage and determination,you won't get far. Zab is a great example of that and he would get beaten by Cotto,Margarito etc. He should have to work his way back,I'm sick of seeing him being given so many shots without working for it.
Just as easy for me to say you can have all the heart, courage, and determination in the world, but if you lack athletisicm, ability, speed, timing, you'll never be anything more than a journeyman who will lose his only big fight to a real athlete like Cotto. Zab would KO Margarito, watch the Clottey fight again.. Margarito get's timed and beat to the punch easily before Clottey hurts his hand. And Judah is better than Clottey in most every way. Not as durable, but he is faster with more pop, and Id expect him to have Tony out by the mid rounds. Margarito is a total plodder, he doesn't have what it takes to beat Judah or Cotto. He is too slow, only throws wide shots, horrible defence and footspeed. I know we've had this arguement so many times but really the Clottey fight just displays what mediocre skills Tony really has. He's not beating any elite fighter, EVER.
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Re: Zab to Fight Israel Cardona
every boxer has his bad fights...but i dont know....did anyone see pauls last fight...OMG the kid is back...might of been a no namer but i mean he fuckin killed this guy!....5th round ref jumped in and stopped it cause the kids face was a bloody mess....i think he is back and i think he is carring a lil power with his this time fellas!........TEAM SPADAFORA!!!!!
Re: Zab to Fight Israel Cardona
This is a fight to make Zab look "super" but we could have another Pineda. I think Zab should win this fight in 6 rounds, if he doesnt then no matter the finish it won't be impressive.
Who said Zab couldn't take Miguel's pressure, I'm not sure Miguel could take Zab's punches.
Re: Zab to Fight Israel Cardona
Cotto would annihilate Zab imo. He knows how to cut the ring off and how to fight a slick southpaw. Zab might land a few good punches but as the rounds go on Cotto would break him down and stop him
Re: Zab to Fight Israel Cardona
This is what Zab has come to.....
Israel Cardona..... $100.00 says it won't even make it on tv. 8)
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Re: Zab to Fight Israel Cardona
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Originally Posted by BoomBoom
Cotto would annihilate Zab imo. He knows how to cut the ring off and how to fight a slick southpaw. Zab might land a few good punches but as the rounds go on Cotto would break him down and stop him
And who says Zab would be running from him ???