Re: Naseem Hammed Vs Floyd Mayweather Jr at 130
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Originally Posted by ono
If Naz lands, Mayweather is going to sleep. And naz was quick enough to land. On the other hand Mayweather may have given naz a boxing lesson. Depends which Naz were talking about. The half assed naz that showed up for barrera would have been schooled big time. Would have been close. Anybody who says Mayweather would kill Nas inside a few rounds is a complete idiot.
Mayweather would kill Nas inside a few rounds. Nas had trouble with Kevin Kelly; a fighter on his best day who was Mayweather-lite. People tend to think Mayweather was thin-chinned because he was rarely hit, but that was not the case. Mayweather has shown, time and again, that fighters who give him room will have their @$$es handed to him. He adjusted within the ring to whatever was unexpected and given the fact his arms were so much longer he would have used that advantage and slice Hamed up like sushi.
Re: Naseem Hammed Vs Floyd Mayweather Jr at 130
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Originally Posted by liquid
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Originally Posted by ono
If Naz lands, Mayweather is going to sleep. And naz was quick enough to land. On the other hand Mayweather may have given naz a boxing lesson. Depends which Naz were talking about. The half assed naz that showed up for barrera would have been schooled big time. Would have been close. Anybody who says Mayweather would kill Nas inside a few rounds is a complete idiot.
Mayweather would kill Nas inside a few rounds. Nas had trouble with Kevin Kelly; a fighter on his best day who was Mayweather-lite. People tend to think Mayweather was thin-chinned because he was rarely hit, but that was not the case. Mayweather has shown, time and again, that fighters who give him room will have their @$$es handed to him. He adjusted within the ring to whatever was unexpected and given the fact his arms were so much longer he would have used that advantage and slice Hamed up like sushi.
I was going to say somewhat the same thing and bring up the Kelly fight as an example, but I wasn't going to make Kevin Kelly's year like you did.. Mayweather-lite?? More like Mayweather ZERO, or a Mayweather xtra lite now with aspartame that was opened last year and has been sitting on the counter... Not to mention Kelly was already past it by the time he fought Nas and still gave him all hell.. Mayweather would have had too much of everything for Naz, at 130 he would easily have the power to knock his block off.
Re: Naseem Hammed Vs Floyd Mayweather Jr at 130
kevin kelly was a southpaw. and he generally faught with a totally different tactic than mayweather does. he is a much more come forward fighter than mayweather. i can't really see any comparison other than they are both american boxers ???
Re: Naseem Hammed Vs Floyd Mayweather Jr at 130
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
Mayweather was stronger at 130, good amount of power... endless stamina and unbelievable speed.
Naz's best wins came over chinny hyped fighters or fighters past it
Bungu was unbeaten in 8 years former world champion and never been stopped right?
Re: Naseem Hammed Vs Floyd Mayweather Jr at 130
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
Mayweather was stronger at 130, good amount of power... endless stamina and unbelievable speed.
Naz's best wins came over chinny hyped fighters or fighters past it
Bungu was unbeaten in 8 years former world champion and never been stopped right?
Means nothing, he was 8 years older than Naz, 33 years old... which at 120-125lb is an old man... and if it's the fight I'm thinking of... the bloke had grey hairs and it was embarassing to watch... forgot which one it was, close to the MAB fight but Naseem fucked around and show boated with some ancient looking boxer which made MAB dislike Naseem.
Every big fight he won he was significantly younger and fresher.
Re: Naseem Hammed Vs Floyd Mayweather Jr at 130
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
kevin kelly was a southpaw. and he generally faught with a totally different tactic than mayweather does. he is a much more come forward fighter than mayweather. i can't really see any comparison other than they are both american boxers ???
I wasn't saying there was a comparison in terms of how they fight... I was saying that Kevin Kelly at his very best couldn't hold Mayweathers jockstrap and he had enough pop to put Naz in trouble at 126... Mayweather at 130 was so much better in every way. You really think Mayweather couldn't have fought coming forward against Naz?? He'd walk right through him.
Re: Naseem Hammed Vs Floyd Mayweather Jr at 130
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Bungu was unbeaten in 8 years former world champion and never been stopped right?
This doesn't matter at all. Bungu had never fought above 122 pounds prior to the Hamed fight. He was the perfect fighter for Hamed, a guy with a decent reputation who Hamed could handle easily.
This doesn't prove that Hamed would've had the slightest chance of beating Mayweather, because he wouldn't have.
This fight never would have happened, just like Hatton vs. Mayweather is never going to happen now.
Re: Naseem Hammed Vs Floyd Mayweather Jr at 130
this is easy, floyd would murder naz easier then anyone floyd has whoop. naz is a joke, his chin is a joke his style is a joke, all he had was power well not against an elite he never drop mab nor did he even daze him.floyd will murder the clown easy.
all floyd has to do is jab, thats about it to beat naz. but floyd has a millioin more then just a jab so yea floyd will murder naz easy.
Re: Naseem Hammed Vs Floyd Mayweather Jr at 130
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
This is easy. Mayweather would have completely destroyed him. If Hamed was overmatched by Barrera at 126, how do you think he would do against a younger, faster, better fighter at 130?
Mayweather wouldn't have lost a round.
I'm going to have to agree with you on this one......PBF is one of the Greatest fighters to ever live.....
Re: Naseem Hammed Vs Floyd Mayweather Jr at 130
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Bungu was unbeaten in 8 years former world champion and never been stopped right?
This doesn't matter at all. Bungu had never fought above 122 pounds prior to the Hamed fight. He was the perfect fighter for Hamed, a guy with a decent reputation who Hamed could handle easily.
This doesn't prove that Hamed would've had the slightest chance of beating Mayweather, because he wouldn't have.
This fight never would have happened, just like Hatton vs. Mayweather is never going to happen now.
Why because they are both British? Probably not worthy eh?
Re: Naseem Hammed Vs Floyd Mayweather Jr at 130
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Bungu was unbeaten in 8 years former world champion and never been stopped right?
This doesn't matter at all. Bungu had never fought above 122 pounds prior to the Hamed fight. He was the perfect fighter for Hamed, a guy with a decent reputation who Hamed could handle easily.
This doesn't prove that Hamed would've had the slightest chance of beating Mayweather, because he wouldn't have.
This fight never would have happened, just like Hatton vs. Mayweather is never going to happen now.
Why because they are both British? Probably not worthy eh?
It has nothing to do with being British.
It has everything to do with the fact thay neither Hamed nor Hatton are anywhere near as good as Floyd Mayweather.
Re: Naseem Hammed Vs Floyd Mayweather Jr at 130
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Bungu was unbeaten in 8 years former world champion and never been stopped right?
This doesn't matter at all. Bungu had never fought above 122 pounds prior to the Hamed fight. He was the perfect fighter for Hamed, a guy with a decent reputation who Hamed could handle easily.
This doesn't prove that Hamed would've had the slightest chance of beating Mayweather, because he wouldn't have.
This fight never would have happened, just like Hatton vs. Mayweather is never going to happen now.
Tell me 5 fighters that haven't been beaten in 8 years right now that are fighting ??? And we'll see how little it means.
Re: Naseem Hammed Vs Floyd Mayweather Jr at 130
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Tell me 5 fighters that haven't been beaten in 8 years right now that are fighting ??? And we'll see how little it means.
Gabula Vabaza
Nicky Cook
Sergiy Dzinziruk
Jean Francois Bergeron
Niclolay Valuev
And Carlos Quintana had been undefeated for over 8 years before Cotto destroyed him.
Re: Naseem Hammed Vs Floyd Mayweather Jr at 130
Re: Naseem Hammed Vs Floyd Mayweather Jr at 130
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Bungu was unbeaten in 8 years former world champion and never been stopped right?
This doesn't matter at all. Bungu had never fought above 122 pounds prior to the Hamed fight. He was the perfect fighter for Hamed, a guy with a decent reputation who Hamed could handle easily.
This doesn't prove that Hamed would've had the slightest chance of beating Mayweather, because he wouldn't have.
This fight never would have happened, just like Hatton vs. Mayweather is never going to happen now.
Completely agree, Bungu had fought his entire career at 122 and was a perfect fit for Naz. Undefeated solid record on paper a title holder in another div.....
Heres what I put on that "Was Naseem all hype" thread about his opponents.....
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by BIG H
his punch power was freakish and lets not forget losing to MAB is no disgrace he will go down as an ATG, The problem I have with him is that he didn't have the sack to come back.
Gotta disagree with the ALL TIME GREAT part.
I just can't see myself discussing fighters that have fought in the Feather div. such as Arguello, Olivares, Saldivar, Pep, Nelson, Pedroza. Oh! and what about Naz?
It just doesn't make sense.....
I'll never get tired of saying that at their best Naz's opponent's are: Manuel Medina, Tom Johnson, Kevin Kelley, Wilfredo Vasquez, McGullough, Vuyani Bungu & MAB.
One 'A' Class opponent which he lost the fight against. The rest I would say Bungu was a 'C' class fighter who was moving up in weight.
Medina was a 'B' fighter, Kelly at his best was 'B'-, along with Johnson & Vasquez & McGullough.
I just don't think his resume speaks volumes and the part that I do agree with on your post BIG H is the part that he didn't have it in him, to dust his shoulders and get back in the ring.
Lennoxs and Naz brothers voices are still echoing in my head (from the Little Price, Big Fight documentary) as they say "He will be back, and he will be better then ever. All great champs have gone through this and they come back and thats what makes them great" :-X
Yeah!!! ???
