boxing problem

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by BoxingGod

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Lyle

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Lets not.

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The words of a TRUE Floyd Mayweather Jr. fan :beat:


I think boxing needs to have more big fights happen and for it to come to fruition we need to rid boxing of the alphabet soup titles AND more importantly the Don King's and Bob Arum's!



What we need is/are....

1 title for each weight class and no promoters but a league and guaranteed money, and pensions for retired fighters just like other pro sports

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What the hell does that got to do with fighters with undefeated records? Which is what this thread was about. You just mentioned a bunch of things that (while, I agree with) got nothing to do with what Boxing Fraud asked for.

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your replies are more worthless then anyones so you shouldn't be talking. atleast lyle was trying to help, unlike your worthless nonsense cRap.

you should take less steriods or what ever your taking MEATHEAD!, your way over aggressive, maybe your homo, only way to keep in denial is to act tough. your sad violent DoRk, worthless and sad.

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I was talking to Lyle not your dumbass. Your like a little girl. Always getting your F****** feelings hurt. Maybe you should change your name to Boxing Bitch as much as you cry and whine. Your on a boxing forum. Toughen the F*** up.

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:gay-as-steelie: its ok violent doRK, you can come out the closet you don't have to deny it, its so obvious.











































:fyou:

Alright the lot of you...let's discuss this without all this arguing.

Seriously...this'd be a good discussion without all this mess. Drop it & please keep your bitching to the PM's.

Okay? There are some good thoughts here...lose the battering of each other.

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

Alright the lot of you...let's discuss this without all this arguing.

Seriously...this'd be a good discussion without all this mess. Drop it & please keep your bitching to the PM's.

Okay? There are some good thoughts here...lose the battering of each other.

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tell that to your homeboy, his the one that brings negativity, i ignore his first post on this topic when he said "lets not" which is second posted on this topic. couldn't let his next comment slide though.

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Originally Posted by BoxingGod

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

Alright the lot of you...let's discuss this without all this arguing.

Seriously...this'd be a good discussion without all this mess. Drop it & please keep your bitching to the PM's.

Okay? There are some good thoughts here...lose the battering of each other.

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tell that to your homeboy, his the one that brings negativity, i ignore his first post on this topic when he said "lets not" which is second posted on this topic. couldn't let his next comment slide though.

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I'm not TELLING anyone anything.

I'm asking. Could you not see that in the post you just quoted?

I'm asking ALL of you to take your arguements to PM's & not right here in all of our faces...the point of the thread is getting lost.

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

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Originally Posted by BoxingGod

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

Alright the lot of you...let's discuss this without all this arguing.

Seriously...this'd be a good discussion without all this mess. Drop it & please keep your bitching to the PM's.

Okay? There are some good thoughts here...lose the battering of each other.

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tell that to your homeboy, his the one that brings negativity, i ignore his first post on this topic when he said "lets not" which is second posted on this topic. couldn't let his next comment slide though.

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I'm not TELLING anyone anything.

I'm asking. Could you not see that in the post you just quoted?

I'm asking ALL of you to take your arguements to PM's & not right here in all of our faces...the point of the thread is getting lost.

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NO pRoblem,





back to the subject......

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Originally Posted by rvk1331

Faruq Saleem

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=15680

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I like how box rec shows the fighters last 6 fights red for losses and green for wins, makes it easy to see that this guy is a farse!

Do it for Valuev....its not bad...
What undefeated fighter do you think Valuev should fight?

Chris Arreola? 18-0
Roman Greenburg? 24-0
Alexander Povetkin? 10-0
Eddie Chambers? 27-0
Derrick Rossy 15-0 (set to fight Chambers next)
Alexander Dimitrenko? 24-0
Vladmir Virchis? 22-1 (lost to Chagaev who was 19-0)
Tony Thompson? 28-1 (one ud loss in a 4 rounder long ago)
Luan Krasniqi? 29-2 (ko's by Brewster)
Ruslan Chagaev? 22-0-1 (this fight MIGHT happen)
Sultan Ibragimov 19-0-1 (draw against Austin)

Remember these guys guard their undefeated records like gold.
It gives them legitamacy and leverage for a big $$ Title shot.
NO WAY are they going to chance losing that against each other.

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Originally Posted by landmine950

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Originally Posted by rvk1331

Faruq Saleem

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=15680

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I like how box rec shows the fighters last 6 fights red for losses and green for wins, makes it easy to see that this guy is a farse!

Do it for Valuev....its not bad...
What undefeated fighter do you think Valuev should fight?

Chris Arreola? 18-0
Roman Greenburg? 24-0
Alexander Povetkin? 10-0
Eddie Chambers? 27-0
Derrick Rossy 15-0 (set to fight Chambers next)
Alexander Dimitrenko? 24-0
Vladmir Virchis? 22-1 (lost to Chagaev who was 19-0)
Tony Thompson? 28-1 (one ud loss in a 4 rounder long ago)
Luan Krasniqi? 29-2 (ko's by Brewster)
Ruslan Chagaev? 22-0-1 (this fight MIGHT happen)
Sultan Ibragimov 19-0-1 (draw against Austin)

Remember these guys guard their undefeated records like gold.
It gives them legitamacy and leverage for a big $$ Title shot.
NO WAY are they going to chance losing that against each other.

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Ruslan Chagaev. The guy is his mandatory if I remember correctly

Chagaev wouldn't be bad for Valuev actually. I would be impressed if that fight happened. If Chagaev isn't in the top 10, he's really really close.

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Originally Posted by BoxingGod

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

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Originally Posted by BoxingGod

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

Alright the lot of you...let's discuss this without all this arguing.

Seriously...this'd be a good discussion without all this mess. Drop it & please keep your bitching to the PM's.

Okay? There are some good thoughts here...lose the battering of each other.

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tell that to your homeboy, his the one that brings negativity, i ignore his first post on this topic when he said "lets not" which is second posted on this topic. couldn't let his next comment slide though.

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I'm not TELLING anyone anything.

I'm asking. Could you not see that in the post you just quoted?

I'm asking ALL of you to take your arguments to PM's & not right here in all of our faces...the point of the thread is getting lost.

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NO pRoblem,

back to the subject......

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Thanks a bunch.

:coolclick: & :coolclick: s to all involved in diffusing the mess.

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Originally Posted by landmine950

The problem is no one want's (or should) fight a guy who is way better or way worse than him
2 guys can both be undefeated but with very different record.
Like 21-0 vs 7-0 or 46-0
and those guys might be at very different levels in thier development as fighters.
Valuev is 46-0 but only really started being any good maybe in the last 20 fights.
A guy with a strong amatuer record might be quite good at 10-0.

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+114 :coolclick: good point, yea the amatuer experience does play a huge part of someones record and developement.

there are the real deal undefeated; cotto, and pbf

there are the hype(atleast just for now) like valero

and there are countless of undefeated fakes. those are who we should sort out.

but then again we have real deal undefeated with real talent, but doesn't fight great oppenents. i think thats the worst of all, which is boring the sports or starving it, never giving the sport the fight it want. or it could just be the character of the undefeated fighter, that makes fans into critics, some may say haters.