Re: HE should be stopped!!!
As long as he isn't getting constantly knocked out or hurt than its not a big issue IMO. I've seen worse. There was one guy who was something like 0-32 with 32 knockout losses (most of which in the first few rounds) and he was still fighting. That was just bad
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Originally Posted by landmine950
He started his "career" at 2-30! not 30-2!
he's had numerous 10,11,12 and as high as 15 loss in a row streaks
I'm not saying he's a bad person. But he needs to be protected from himself. In boxing you can and will get hurt. He doesn't have a bunch of KO's in those losses? Hey.. neither did Gerry Quarry.
If he's going in looking to cover up, not get hurt and just waiting for a safe time and place to lay down. Than thats a farse, and a discredit to the sport and all the guys who battle for every W on their record!
Hey it's just my opinion.
I wouldn't be able to justify putting a guy with that record on any card I was involved with. And what does it say, about what you think about your fighter? "ya we found a guy for ya to test yourself against". You should be able to "squeak" out a gutsy win against him...after all 276 other guys did!
Disgraceful!
Fighters like this keep the fight game alive not kill it !!
Every promoted from Alaska to the York Hall needs these guys they are the lifeblood of this once great sport .
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At least Buckley started out at 17-10-4!
maybe give a guy 20 or so losses after that then start taking a hard look at the guy. Hey hey didn't want to give Evander Holyfield a license! He's 40-8-2 and ony 2 Tko losses! Its supposed to be a competitive sport. Save the "sparring" for in the gym.
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A young fighter could gain some valuable rounds and experience in the ring fighting a defense journeyman of 300+ fights.
You dont fight 300+ fights and not have a certain sense of experience. It's a good test for youngsters to learn a few things.
Props to this guy for helping develop the game for youngins.
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Originally Posted by Lyle
....I thought you finally came to your senses and posted something reasonable about Nicolay Valuev.....oh well, guess I was wrong
LOL like it! But seriously that geezer landmine posted was fooking shite!
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There is two sides to this discussion.
1) Boxing does need the "opponent" fighters, ones that will get in there and give a guy some rounds without the chance of the "opponent" doing any serious damage to him. And to fill in as late subs. Boxing would not be what it is if not for these type of fighters. They are a necessary evil for the sport.
2) His record is a little worrisome, at some point he has been hit and hurt. How often only those close to him can say. But it is completely up to him and the people around him to make the decision if and when he hangs them up. We can only hope he has the right people by him.
On a side note his fights have to suck to watch. I have read that he only back pedals away and avoids any type of confrontation. I am sure he knows a few tricks but not too sure if he uses them.
Unfortunately there is nothing in place for boxing to force the fighters to go through some type of rigerous physical to make sure they are mentally and physically able to withstand the punishment of the sport. Untill some type of National or World commision comes into control there is not much to stop fighters from continueing to fight without someont to stop them from themselves.
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look at this guy. he's never seen the ring card girl more than twice.
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=5316
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his loses are UD he hasn't benn KOed for while maybe that's the reason0
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http://apse.dallasnews.com/contest/2...ct.third3.html
"....Strickland shows no signs of frequent beatings. He speaks eloquently. His face, accented by a pencil-thin mustache, barely has a nick or noticeable scar. But despite Strickland's fresh face and survival skills, the scorecards provide damning evidence against him. Now competing as a junior middleweight, Strickland has a 61-248-15 ring record, including a 3-10 mark this year..."
He takes 500 bucks cash(at the least) to stay in a shell all night and not get hurt. Losing kept the bills paid for a long time, almost 20 years for Reggie. That's not bad if you ask me. He is a professional opponent. If he was fine with himself, then more power to him. I've seen him fight a few times before. Someone put a few of his fights on Putfile a while back. Nothing much. He's just a jobber. You come across them a lot, most people just aren't content with that role and don't fight on. He was. More power to him. And at the end of the day, he could say he fought and won 66 times. How many people can say that?
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Originally Posted by Memphis
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Originally Posted by landmine950
He started his "career" at 2-30! not 30-2!
he's had numerous 10,11,12 and as high as 15 loss in a row streaks
I'm not saying he's a bad person. But he needs to be protected from himself. In boxing you can and will get hurt. He doesn't have a bunch of KO's in those losses? Hey.. neither did Gerry Quarry.
If he's going in looking to cover up, not get hurt and just waiting for a safe time and place to lay down. Than thats a farse, and a discredit to the sport and all the guys who battle for every W on their record!
Hey it's just my opinion.
I wouldn't be able to justify putting a guy with that record on any card I was involved with. And what does it say, about what you think about your fighter? "ya we found a guy for ya to test yourself against". You should be able to "squeak" out a gutsy win against him...after all 276 other guys did!
Disgraceful!
I hate to use the "you don't know boxing" line but in this instance it is warranted. Your lacking a basic understanding of how lower level boxing works. As Yoitsdan said, boxing needs opponents, it needs people like Strickland. He and Peter Buckley stick out like sore thumbs with their resumes and fair play to them for it. They are the only two I can think of off my head with records like that and there is a reason for it, they are really good at what they do.
They don't get hit a lot, they don't get hurt, they go the distance and show some young upstart a trick or two along the way.
For what its worth your not the first person to post Strickland or Buckley's record and look in horror.
Check out Buckleys record, you will see many many well known names all in the infancy of their careers
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=3372
Peter Buckley couldn't hold Reggie Strickland jock strap
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Presumably because you have a vice like grip on it eh?
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If he can pass all the physicals and all the tests that the rest of the fighters pass in order to fight.Then there is no reason why he shouldn't be able compete!! It is not our job or anyone Else's to judge a fighter. His performances may not be that great, but he is able to go the distance against some ok prospects as mentioned earlier. If he chooses to box that is his choice and his choice alone until he fails a prefight physical or test.
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Originally Posted by amat
http://apse.dallasnews.com/contest/2...ct.third3.html
"....Strickland shows no signs of frequent beatings. He speaks eloquently. His face, accented by a pencil-thin mustache, barely has a nick or noticeable scar. But despite Strickland's fresh face and survival skills, the scorecards provide damning evidence against him. Now competing as a junior middleweight, Strickland has a 61-248-15 ring record, including a 3-10 mark this year..."
He takes 500 bucks cash(at the least) to stay in a shell all night and not get hurt. Losing kept the bills paid for a long time, almost 20 years for Reggie. That's not bad if you ask me. He is a professional opponent. If he was fine with himself, then more power to him. I've seen him fight a few times before. Someone put a few of his fights on Putfile a while back. Nothing much. He's just a jobber. You come across them a lot, most people just aren't content with that role and don't fight on. He was. More power to him. And at the end of the day, he could say he fought and won 66 times. How many people can say that?
Excellent find mate :coolclick:
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Originally Posted by Memphis
Presumably because you have a vice like grip on it eh?
Or coz Buckley is English :-\
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The guy fights every 2 weeks on average. Obviously he's making a living. If he's not getting hurt, let him do his thing. I am sure that promoters have him on speed dial if they need a last minute replacement. No promoter would use him if he was completely horrible.
There's a kid that's always on espn fnf's. He's only like 22yrs old and has like 50 fights, most of them losses. But they keep putting him on cause he puts on a decent show. Like Teddy says, they put up some opposition, but just don't try to win cause they are used to losing and they would rather make sure they don't get hurt cause they got a fight next week.