Re: Oscar Delahoya has never beaten a great boxer at their peak
DelaHoya has his record and it stands against some very good opponents...questionable decisions aside, he deserves his status...
I do think he is past it though, and will get shown up horribly by Floyd....
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Originally Posted by miles
DelaHoya has his record and it stands against some very good opponents...questionable decisions aside, he deserves his status...
I do think he is past it though, and will get shown up horribly by Floyd....
I agree CC #837
I think Mayweather will totally dominate and i agree that Oscar is past his best by a long shot. Hope he proves me wrong but i don't think he will. A KO win over Mayorga doesn't quite cover up how he lost 2 of his previous 3 fights and was very very very fortunate to get the W against Sturm who i fought did enough to win.....with one arm. I think this will be close to being a complete shutout for Mayweather.
Re: Oscar Delahoya has never beaten a great boxer at their peak
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Originally Posted by miles
DelaHoya has his record and it stands against some very good opponents...questionable decisions aside, he deserves his status...
I do think he is past it though, and will get shown up horribly by Floyd....
I agree CC #837
I think Mayweather will totally dominate and i agree that Oscar is past his best by a long shot. Hope he proves me wrong but i don't think he will. A KO win over Mayorga doesn't quite cover up how he lost 2 of his previous 3 fights and was very very very fortunate to get the W against Sturm who i fought did enough to win.....with one arm. I think this will be close to being a complete shutout for Mayweather.
Click right back, mate
Im not Mayweather fan really, but that boy has got skillz and an old Oscar isnt going to be able to negate it...
Re: Oscar Delahoya has never beaten a great boxer at their peak
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
he is not an all time great and is vastly overated. Floyd Mayweather has also beat no all time greats. in his last four bouts ricky hatton has won world titles of defending champions.
Yeah, De La Hoya or MAyweather will never be an all time great like Hatton. He's just beat too many champions. I mean DLH may have fought over twice as many defending champions in over three times as many weight classes, but yeah he's never faced anyone as good as Maussa Urango or Collazo.
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
he is not an all time great and is vastly overated. Floyd Mayweather has also beat no all time greats. in his last four bouts ricky hatton has won world titles of defending champions.
Yeah, De La Hoya or MAyweather will never be an all time great like Hatton. He's just beat too many champions. I mean DLH may have fought over twice as many defending champions in over three times as many weight classes, but yeah he's never faced anyone as good as Maussa Urango or Collazo.
Whilst I'm not sure about the Hatton analogy,Oscar is more known for his selling prowess and his losses than his wins. He will be in the hall of fame and deserves it for what he has done for our beloved sport but an all time great...no way.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
he is not an all time great and is vastly overated. Floyd Mayweather has also beat no all time greats. in his last four bouts ricky hatton has won world titles of defending champions.
Yeah, De La Hoya or MAyweather will never be an all time great like Hatton. He's just beat too many champions. I mean DLH may have fought over twice as many defending champions in over three times as many weight classes, but yeah he's never faced anyone as good as Maussa Urango or Collazo.
Whilst I'm not sure about the Hatton analogy,Oscar is more known for his selling prowess and his losses than his wins. He will be in the hall of fame and deserves it for what he has done for our beloved sport but an all time great...no way.
Yeh and throw in a few gift decisions as well while your at it ;)
Seriously i hope he whoops Mayweather but i can't really see it.
Re: Oscar Delahoya has never beaten a great boxer at their peak
On the day of the fgiht,I'll be one of Oscar's biggest fans but I just don't see how he is going to win. Oh how I'd love to see that beautiful left hook land and KTFO Floyd.
Re: Oscar Delahoya has never beaten a great boxer at their peak
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Whilst I'm not sure about the Hatton analogy,Oscar is more known for his selling prowess and his losses than his wins. He will be in the hall of fame and deserves it for what he has done for our beloved sport but an all time great...no way.
I agree with this.
When I think of Oscar's career, the first thing I think of is his marketability and popularity.
Oscar had a huge following right from the beginning of his career, and therefore he could make just about any fight he wanted, because opponents knew they'd make more $$$ fighting Oscar than against anyone else.
Because of his popularity, Oscar could have made big money fighting against anyone, even a bunch of stiffs. The reason I will always respect Oscar is that he used his popularity to fight the best fighters on the planet, when he could have just sat on his fame and not taken chances.
He is not an all-time great in terms of boxing skills or wins and losses, but he has been a great influence on the sport and I think he has a chance to make an even more important impact as a promoter.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
he is not an all time great and is vastly overated. Floyd Mayweather has also beat no all time greats. in his last four bouts ricky hatton has won world titles of defending champions.
Yeah, De La Hoya or MAyweather will never be an all time great like Hatton ::**(SARCASM). He's just beat too many champions(NOT). I mean DLH may have fought over twice as many defending champions in over three times as many weight classes, but yeah he's never faced anyone as good as Maussa Urango or Collazo.
Whilst I'm not sure about the Hatton analogy,Oscar is more known for his selling prowess and his losses than his wins. He will be in the hall of fame and deserves it for what he has done for our beloved sport but an all time great...no way.
Surprised that one went over your head ;)
Re: Oscar Delahoya has never beaten a great boxer at their peak
Who cares what the record says!!
All Oscar's controversial fights that could have gone either way only mean one thing...
he is as good as his opponent!!
Oscar was as good as Whitaker 147, Quartey 147, Trinidad 147, Mosley 154, Sturm 160. Its just a shame Kostya fought Phillips because if he didn't Tzsyu 140 would also be on the list.
Incidently who has Floyd got on his list? oh thats right... Castillo 135. ;D
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i hate floyd and oscar is one of my favorite fighters....delahoya win in decision!
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Who cares what the record says!!
All Oscar's controversial fights that could have gone either way only mean one thing...
he is as good as his opponent!!
Oscar was as good as Whitaker 147, Quartey 147, Trinidad 147, Mosley 154, Sturm 160. Its just a shame Kostya fought Phillips because if he didn't Tzsyu 140 would also be on the list.
Incidently who has Floyd got on his list? oh thats right... Castillo 135. ;D
CC.....Even as an Oscar basher, I gotta agree with that statement about him being at least good enough to be in the same ring as those guys.
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
he is not an all time great and is vastly overated. Floyd Mayweather has also beat no all time greats. in his last four bouts ricky hatton has won world titles of defending champions.
Be that as it may, at leats Oscar said "what the fuck" and gave it a shot vs Mosley, Trinidad, and Hopkins....fucking middleweight Bernard Hopkins at their peak!!!!
Floyd has NEVER come close to taking those risks!
Oscar did beat Castillejo, Vargas, Campas, and Quartey at their best!
Re: Oscar Delahoya has never beaten a great boxer at their peak
well he beat clifford hicks ,one of the great southpaws of our generation :P
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he is not an all time great and is vastly overated. Floyd Mayweather has also beat no all time greats. in his last four bouts ricky hatton has won world titles of defending champions.
DLH is not an all-time great and yes, he is overrated. I don't think he's "vastly" overrated, but slightly overrated. You could make an argument that DLH went 0-3-1 in the Whitaker, Quartey, Trinidad and Mosley I one fights. DLH's legacy will be that he was a very very good fighter who was willing to fight the best of the best year after year, and that's very impressive in its own right.
You're right, Floyd Mayweather has not beaten an all-time great.
If your last sentence is meant to imply that Ricky Hatton is somehow better than DLH and Mayweather, then you're out of your mind.
CC.....I agree. It's no secret that I'm not a fan of either Floyd or Oscar but to say Hatton is better is insane. I don't recall the last time Either of the two got chased back down in weight after just one fight.
Hattons a natural 140lb fighter who stepped up to the plate and beat a natural 147lb fighter. He then admitted he wasnt a natural 147lb fighter and went back down to 140lb and outboxed urango. dela hoya moved up in weight because his body grew naturally as did mayweathers and they could no longer make the weight. I beleive mayweather could still make 140lb and should box hatton there. Mayweather shouts his mouth of all the time about hatton. But the fact is hatton has more appeal than mayweather and has not let fame change the person he is. Mayweather says he'll box hatton in england. They should box @ the millennium stadium in wales and ricky would kick the over hyped bums backside back across the atlantic.
