Re: How the fwock did he get a belt????
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by landmine950
As for the Briggs comment, based on his lethargic win that gothim the belt only a fool would disagree..
BUT he may be a darkhorse in the HW div.
A big puncher,
good defensive skill,
really good counter puncher,
really really fast hands,
really,really,really bad hairdo
Id bet money on him in any long odds fight. like +280+
Briggs has enough stamina for 1 round 'where hes actually throwing punches', I take it you didn't see the entire fight vs. Serguei?
The only thing I agree with is the hairdoo...
I think ANY of the top 10 heavys beats Briggs, simply on the fact that they would be busier throughout the fight.
YES based on the SL fight...
It depends on if you buy the Asthma bit...
In SL fight he sucked (as I say) "Dogsh1t thru a straw"
BUT if it WAS asthma...well then who knows..thats why I label him the darkhorse.......maybe he comes out and looks great.
If he has real wind,,,, he might be really good....If he ha no gas 'cuz hes all blown up muscle..then.....he's sh1t.......with a bad hairdo..
Re: How the fwock did he get a belt????
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Originally Posted by armin
If he smashes marciano's record without fighting either of the klits, preferably vitali, peter and some other big names it ain't gonna mean jackshit to me or for that matter to most boxing fans! Once again statistics can be deceiving.
The Klits?? really?? Wlad who goes down every time a puff of wind goes by his chin, And Vitali who finally fights a guy his own size (albeit old,unprepared and out of shape) Lewis, and gets his face pounded into 30 pounds of raw meat? They are both deathly afraid of Valuev!
Germans losing to the Russian!?!? they would rather BOTH retire and go back to rubbing naked mens buttocks than face the GIANT!
Why do you think they have never even MENTIONED his name!!!
FEAR!! FEAR!!! FEAR!! deep in they frail skinny bones.....FEAR!!
The hairy one is wlad!
Re: How the fwock did he get a belt????
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Originally Posted by landmine950
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Originally Posted by armin
If he smashes marciano's record without fighting either of the klits, preferably vitali, peter and some other big names it ain't gonna mean jackshit to me or for that matter to most boxing fans! Once again statistics can be deceiving.
The Klits?? really?? Wlad who goes down every time a puff of wind goes by his chin, And Vitali who finally fights a guy his own size (albeit old,unprepared and out of shape) Lewis, and gets his face pounded into 30 pounds of raw meat? They are both deathly afraid of Valuev!
Germans losing to the Russian!?!? they would rather BOTH retire and go back to rubbing naked mens buttocks than face the GIANT!
Why do you think they have never even MENTIONED his name!!!
FEAR!! FEAR!!! FEAR!! deep in they frail skinny bones.....FEAR!!
The hairy one is wlad!
Nice Pic!
While I hope you were exaggerating a bit, I don't think that anyone is going to enjoy getting in the ring and fighting Valuev, because for the Klitchkos, as it was for McCline, it will be the first time that they will be punching upwards at an opponent. Wladdy's 6'6" and Briggs is 6'4", Maskaev is 6'3", none of them will have ever given that sort of height away, and any fighter who goes in against Valuev and isn't worried is an arrogant fool.
Re: How the fwock did he get a belt????
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Originally Posted by armin
If he smashes marciano's record without fighting either of the klits, preferably vitali, peter and some other big names it ain't gonna mean jackshit to me or for that matter to most boxing fans! Once again statistics can be deceiving.
but marciano after turning pro boxed as an amatuer again and lost. so his records misleading
Re: How the fwock did he get a belt????
Hacine Cherifi was once wba middleweight champ if i remember correctly..During a short dry period in the middleweight division.. A fair few champs who beat other champs who were less then championship material...If you can make sense of that...lol
Re: How the fwock did he get a belt????
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Originally Posted by landmine950
5: Nikolay Valuev - I can't even be beothered to begin explaining why he isn't world class. Instead i'll just mention.....Larry Donald :-X and Jon Ruiz :-\
How did Big Nick get a belt? By beating 46 guys in a row!!! That's how!
And then beating the last guy who had the belt! How did HE get it? in a pack of bubble gum?
Lets look and see (the vodka's kicking in!) how the mutant headed giant got the belt
Please try and follow along..I'll go slow....!
First (at 37-0!) he beat Richard Bango who was 16-0 for the
WBA INTER-CONTINENTAL HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP BELT
THEN! defended it 5 times!!! before he got a shot at Ruiz for the WBA world belt
How did Ruiz get the belt? He won it after a win over HASIM RAHMAN
Ruiz then succesfully defended the WBA belt against Fres Oquendo, Andrew Golota,
And James Toney! ( I know a n/c) before he met Valuev.
Since the win over Ruiz
Valuev has since defended the Belt 3 times!
I know the wba Inter-continental belt isn't all that, and really the wba hw belt isn't all,all that either.
BUT you didn't question the legitamacy or value of the belt itself,just HOW did he get it.
SO to answer your question....How did Valuev get the WBA HW belt?
HE F#CKIN EARNED IT!
Just remember you dissed the Big Guy when he smashes Marciano's record! And becomes the most recognised Athlete on the Planet Earth.
It will happen! (maybe)
As for the Briggs comment, based on his lethargic win that gothim the belt only a fool would disagree..
BUT he may be a darkhorse in the HW div.
A big puncher,
good defensive skill,
really good counter puncher,
really really fast hands,
really,really,really bad hairdo
Id bet money on him in any long odds fight. like +280+
Cool click you make a very strong case for Valuev becoming a hall of famer. My mistake :P
Re: How the fwock did he get a belt????
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Originally Posted by landmine950
The Klits?? really?? Wlad who goes down every time a puff of wind goes by his chin, And Vitali who finally fights a guy his own size (albeit old,unprepared and out of shape) Lewis, and gets his face pounded into 30 pounds of raw meat? They are both deathly afraid of Valuev!
Germans losing to the Russian!?!? they would rather BOTH retire and go back to rubbing naked mens buttocks than face the GIANT!
Why do you think they have never even MENTIONED his name!!!
FEAR!! FEAR!!! FEAR!! deep in they frail skinny bones.....FEAR!!
The hairy one is wlad!
No one is afraid of Valuev....Monte Barrett checked Nikky's chin and it BARELY passed that.....did Monte KO Wladimir??? Did he come close????
Valuev is 7 feet and 300+ pounds of shit!
He's never fought a power puncher
He's RARELY fought away from his home area
And I will ask you to name 1 fighter Valuev beat that Vitali and Wladimir couldn't beat!
I know damn well Valuev won't get near Corrie Sanders!!! I know he's steering clear of Sam Peter!!!!! And if he's so far away from those guys he won't be caught dead in a ring with either Klitschko!
I would LOVE to see Chazz Witherspoon or Alexander Povetkin get a shot at Valuev...those guys are relative newcomers yet they have the ability to beat that big hairy bastard
Re: How the fwock did he get a belt????
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Originally Posted by ono
Going through the list of World Champions try and name 5 (or more if you like) fighters through-out the weight divisions who some how have a version of one of the four major world titles.....but in reality are nowhere near world class.
Oh and give a reason
I'll start......
1: Souleymane M'baye - how did it happen????? How do two fighters like Raul balbi and M'baye get to fight an eliminater?????
2: Junior Witter ;D - One minute he's sinking without trace against world class operators such as Lovemore N'Dou, Colin Lynes and Andres Kotelnik.......the next he's negotiating a 12 round stand off for the wbc title.
3: Enzo Maccarinelli - Smacks Mark Hobson over the back of the head and KO's him. Felt sorry for Hobbo that night. This aint a diss on Maccarinelli but beating Hobson shouldn't make you a world champion.
4: Virgil Hill - he's 42 for fooks sake. And he hasn't fought for over a year and only fought twice since 2003.
5: Nikolay Valuev - I can't even be beothered to begin explaining why he isn't world class. Instead i'll just mention.....Larry Donald :-X and Jon Ruiz :-\
Sorry had to modify it, it didn't make sense.....probly still doesn't ;D
Enzo was ment to fight Jonny Nelson who like him or not is world class but he pulled out like the coward he is and Enzo had no choise but to fight Hobson for the wbo belt.
But I think its time Warren got Enzo some decent opposition to show us what he is made of and silence the criticts.
Re: How the fwock did he get a belt????
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Originally Posted by landmine950
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by landmine950
As for the Briggs comment, based on his lethargic win that gothim the belt only a fool would disagree..
BUT he may be a darkhorse in the HW div.
A big puncher,
good defensive skill,
really good counter puncher,
really really fast hands,
really,really,really bad hairdo
Id bet money on him in any long odds fight. like +280+
Briggs has enough stamina for 1 round 'where hes actually throwing punches', I take it you didn't see the entire fight vs. Serguei?
The only thing I agree with is the hairdoo...
I think ANY of the top 10 heavys beats Briggs, simply on the fact that they would be busier throughout the fight.
YES based on the SL fight...
It depends on if you buy the Asthma bit...
In SL fight he sucked (as I say) "Dogsh1t thru a straw"
BUT if it WAS asthma...well then who knows..thats why I label him the darkhorse.......maybe he comes out and looks great.
If he has real wind,,,, he might be really good....If he ha no gas 'cuz hes all blown up muscle..then.....he's sh1t.......with a bad hairdo..
Shannons asthma only seems to act up in fights he looks bad in EG any fight he has lost...Now if I understand Shannon correctly...If it was not for asthma no one could beat him?
Re: How the fwock did he get a belt????
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Originally Posted by porkypara
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Originally Posted by ono
Going through the list of World Champions try and name 5 (or more if you like) fighters through-out the weight divisions who some how have a version of one of the four major world titles.....but in reality are nowhere near world class.
Oh and give a reason
I'll start......
1: Souleymane M'baye - how did it happen????? How do two fighters like Raul balbi and M'baye get to fight an eliminater?????
2: Junior Witter ;D - One minute he's sinking without trace against world class operators such as Lovemore N'Dou, Colin Lynes and Andres Kotelnik.......the next he's negotiating a 12 round stand off for the wbc title.
3: Enzo Maccarinelli - Smacks Mark Hobson over the back of the head and KO's him. Felt sorry for Hobbo that night. This aint a diss on Maccarinelli but beating Hobson shouldn't make you a world champion.
4: Virgil Hill - he's 42 for fooks sake. And he hasn't fought for over a year and only fought twice since 2003.
5: Nikolay Valuev - I can't even be beothered to begin explaining why he isn't world class. Instead i'll just mention.....Larry Donald :-X and Jon Ruiz :-\
Sorry had to modify it, it didn't make sense.....probly still doesn't ;D
Enzo was ment to fight Jonny Nelson who like him or not is world class but he pulled out like the coward he is and Enzo had no choise but to fight Hobson for the wbo belt.
But I think its time Warren got Enzo some decent opposition to show us what he is made of and silence the criticts.
Yeh i know how they attained the belts. Just dont see how they have beaten anybody to warrant being champion of the world. Enzo wont fight anybody decent for another half dozen fights at least.
Re: How the fwock did he get a belt????
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Originally Posted by ono
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Originally Posted by landmine950
5: Nikolay Valuev - I can't even be beothered to begin explaining why he isn't world class. Instead i'll just mention.....Larry Donald :-X and Jon Ruiz :-\
How did Big Nick get a belt? By beating 46 guys in a row!!! That's how!
And then beating the last guy who had the belt! How did HE get it? in a pack of bubble gum?
Lets look and see (the vodka's kicking in!) how the mutant headed giant got the belt
Please try and follow along..I'll go slow....!
First (at 37-0!) he beat Richard Bango who was 16-0 for the
WBA INTER-CONTINENTAL HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP BELT
THEN! defended it 5 times!!! before he got a shot at Ruiz for the WBA world belt
How did Ruiz get the belt? He won it after a win over HASIM RAHMAN
Ruiz then succesfully defended the WBA belt against Fres Oquendo, Andrew Golota,
And James Toney! ( I know a n/c) before he met Valuev.
Since the win over Ruiz
Valuev has since defended the Belt 3 times!
I know the wba Inter-continental belt isn't all that, and really the wba hw belt isn't all,all that either.
BUT you didn't question the legitamacy or value of the belt itself,just HOW did he get it.
SO to answer your question....How did Valuev get the WBA HW belt?
HE F#CKIN EARNED IT!
Just remember you dissed the Big Guy when he smashes Marciano's record! And becomes the most recognised Athlete on the Planet Earth.
It will happen! (maybe)
As for the Briggs comment, based on his lethargic win that gothim the belt only a fool would disagree..
BUT he may be a darkhorse in the HW div.
A big puncher,
good defensive skill,
really good counter puncher,
really really fast hands,
really,really,really bad hairdo
Id bet money on him in any long odds fight. like +280+
Cool click you make a very strong case for Valuev becoming a hall of famer. My mistake :P
Glad you have come to your senses! ;)
