Re: 'Battle of the Jr's, who do you think will make the biggest impact'
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
The only fighter I have been keeping my eye on is Paez Jr but he leaves a lot to be desired when it comes into comparison to his father. :( I really enjoyed Sr's fights. He was entertaining, put on a good show and had some pretty good fights too. I know I said I would up some fights and I will. I am upping some fights right now and I will get to that for ya Mick. His son to me looks sloppy, wild and wide and lacks some stamina the verdict is still out since he only has 12 fights but I don't see nothing happening here and as soon as he steps up I think he is going to get stepped on.
Was not impressed with JCC JR. so I passed on watching him. Am I missing something here? His father he ain't.
you can see major improvement in his last few fights. nice body work, throws punches with good leverage, I think he will have some success in the future . O0
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Chavez Jr Highlights
Granted most of his opponents are soft, you can still see the potential . nice body work , and good crowd pleasing aggression - enjoy O0
[youtube=425,350]Sygi-Z04QEY[/youtube]
Re: 'Battle of the Jr's, who do you think will make the biggest impact'
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Originally Posted by $kills$o$mooth
The best up and coming "Jr" hands down is the kid Darnell Jiles Jr, seen him a few times on Espn friday night boxing and oh my lord the kid is gonna be very special, i'd back him to beat anyone of that list and he's only 18, those who have seen him may be inclined to suggest he's a little "flashy" but imo he's got everything in his game,
Confidence
Speed
Technical ability
Power
movement
Decent defence
And he can punch from some mad angles man ;D, i think he's a cert to be a champion with-in 3 years,
peace
1st and foremost heres your 1st :coolclick: and Welcome to Casa De Saddo, where your opinion is to be crushed by some drunk (WackOff3205 or SalTheButcher)
Now excuse me for my ignorance but the name Jilles does not ring a bell to me.....
Can you please give me some info. on his pops.....
Thanks.... :)
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
The only fighter I have been keeping my eye on is Paez Jr but he leaves a lot to be desired when it comes into comparison to his father. :( I really enjoyed Sr's fights. He was entertaining, put on a good show and had some pretty good fights too. I know I said I would up some fights and I will. I am upping some fights right now and I will get to that for ya Mick. His son to me looks sloppy, wild and wide and lacks some stamina the verdict is still out since he only has 12 fights but I don't see nothing happening here and as soon as he steps up I think he is going to get stepped on.
Was not impressed with JCC JR. so I passed on watching him. Am I missing something here? His father he ain't.
BTW CC 4 the thread CMM
Thanks Danny_G I got you this morning on the cc.... :)
Well JCC fights very similar to his pops and that hook to the body is really nice if he can continue to improve he'll do well.....
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JCC jnr is very good all round, and Paez jnr has a big bang, he's a real firecracker to watch. McGirt Jnr I haven't seen, Ronald Hearns I saw once and looked good.
Re: 'Battle of the Jr's, who do you think will make the biggest impact'
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
Chavez Jr Highlights
Granted most of his opponents are soft, you can still see the potential . nice body work , and good crowd pleasing aggression - enjoy O0
[youtube=425,350]Sygi-Z04QEY[/youtube]
Ah, good stuff bro ham. I would CC you but I already CC'd you on another post where you have been very active;) TY.
The kid looks good and he looks like his daddy from behind.
I guess he will step it up and have more 8 and 10 round fights. He looks really good but I heard he was all hype and like you said his opp has been soft and I guess I had to look on BR to confirm. 20 yrs old has plenty of time to make a nice run. How is his chin? You have been following his career real close?
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:coolclick: # 301 Danny G , thanks mate ! glad you enjoyed ! O0
Re: 'Battle of the Jr's, who do you think will make the biggest impact'
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Originally Posted by dasamm
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr wins out in my opinion, he has improved quite a bit over the last few years ! the rest of the Jr's lack something, in my opinion.. they just riding daddy's star !
Funny you mention JCC jr; I've seen a couple of his fights over the past few months on VS and was wondering why nobody ever mentioned him. With JCC having a huge legacy and his son starting out 29-0-1 I thought there would be a lot of talk about him, but I didnt even know he was a fighter until a few months back. It seems like he's getting his record nice and padded right now; but 30 fights and being undefeated aint too shabby for being 20 years old! I watched him beat up on a few guys who a 29-0 fighter shouldnt even be lookin at, but I guess since he is only 20 it makes it alright. Btw cc lords.. I cc you all the time man, love what you got to say!
Well when he 1st started off he was talked about often it's not until he got the draw against Molina that the talk stoped which IMO to be honest is good for him....
The kid had sooooo much pressure in the begining of his career and I honestly think that the draw took off a lot of pressure off of him as people who saw the fight have payed less attention to him..... As I said thats less media and yet he can still be JCC Jr. without the pressure.....
He'll still draw attention and if he can keep up the good work he'll reach Championship level.....
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Yea Darnell Jiles Jr. looks to be a very hot prospect. Just fought on FNF last week, after they aired Guinn vs Lawrence... Im not familiar with his father either but that's probably more reason that he'll succeed, considering there's really never been a GREAT fighter who had a son which also became so, least not that I know of. Not that it won't happen, just you could imagine the pressure on a kid who really has very little chance of ever equalling his pops. Anyways, Jiles Jr. is definetly one to watch though. I thought he could tone down the flashy stuff as well, but he's only 18, theres so much room to improve.. The kid is FAST. I saw some big combinations from him, as many as 7 or 8 punches. Full of potential for sure.
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Well, the thing with JCC Jr. as I pointed out he doesn't have amateur background and jumped straight into the pros. so I guess that side can come into play....
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Hey does anyone know why JLC Jr. doesn't have any amatuer background?? Seems really odd to me... I think for the simple reason that he doesn't, it's perfectly valid that there isn't much hype around him. There shouldn't be. His father wasn't a known entity until he had something like 60 fights... He didn't have an amatuer career either. But in his son's case I dont really understand why...
Re: 'Battle of the Jr's, who do you think will make the biggest impact'
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Hey does anyone know why JLC Jr. doesn't have any amatuer background?? Seems really odd to me... I think for the simple reason that he doesn't, it's perfectly valid that there isn't much hype around him. There shouldn't be. His father wasn't a known entity until he had something like 60 fights... He didn't have an amatuer career either. But in his son's case I dont really understand why...
Do you mean JCC Jr.?
If so, thats because in Mexico it's NOT really a thing to be an amateur.
MAB turned pro at age 16, Erik at age 17 and many others.....
There WAS a lot of hype around JCC Jr. but as I said in my previous post once he fought to a draw and had close fights the hype toned down which as I said I think it's good for him as there is less pressure.....
JCC Sr. became a champ at 44-0 by wining the WBC title from 'Azabache' Martinez in an aswome fight here at the World Famous Olympic Auditorium and he was pretty known at that time....
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At 42-2-1 Hector Camacho's Kid must have proven that he's the best of the Juniors so far.
Maybe not a super super star but a good Pro and a chip off the old block
like his dad, makin the best of what he's got!
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Originally Posted by landmine950
makin the best of what he's got!
No he isn't. He has tremendous elusiveness and is pretty fast, but he is lazy. If he were an active puncher, still defensive minded but an active puncher, he might actually be half a factor in the division. One of the bigger bust in recent memory imo. He's got the bloodlines, the defense, the movement, the amateur background but hasn't shown any hunger in the pro ranks.
Re: 'Battle of the Jr's, who do you think will make the biggest impact'
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Originally Posted by landmine950
At 42-2-1 Hector Camacho's Kid must have proven that he's the best of the Juniors so far.
Maybe not a super super star but a good Pro and a chip off the old block
like his dad, makin the best of what he's got!
Couldn't disagree more at 42-2-1 he hasn't even fought for any type of title that matters.....
Not only that but he never looks in shape and IMO is content with just fighting off his fathers name.....
Hes the best of the Jr's at having more fights but thats about it.....
Re: 'Battle of the Jr's, who do you think will make the biggest impact'
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by landmine950
At 42-2-1 Hector Camacho's Kid must have proven that he's the best of the Juniors so far.
Maybe not a super super star but a good Pro and a chip off the old block
like his dad, makin the best of what he's got!
Couldn't disagree more at 42-2-1 he hasn't even fought for any type of title that matters.....
Not only that but he never looks in shape and IMO is content with just fighting off his fathers name.....
Hes the best of the Jr's at having more fights but thats about it.....
I enjoyed watching James Leija beat that bitch dog down something fierce ! O0
