Re: Winky ready to ‘retire’ Hopkins!
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by amat
This is SO tough to predict. Seriously...not so much the weight as much that...Hopkins and Wright are among the smartest fighters in boxing. I don't know how to feel about this. Even when they were both at 160 I had no idea how to feel about this one.
I also wonder what leverage the winner gets in making big matchups? I mean...Wright wins...he beat an old Hopkins. Hopkins wins he beat a blown up Wright. I don't know, I just don't think it does a lot for the winner. And I'm not sure it adds to much to the other's star power either.
It's a funny irony with Hopkins and Wright. I'd certainly rate both of them in the current top 5 p4p and they are truly world class fighters.
But I rarely get excited about seeing either of them fight. Wright vs Hopkins even were it for the undisputed middleweight title is a fight that barely raises my pulse above flatline.
I think virtually everybody would get more excited about seeing Green fight Miranda or even Pavlik fight Taylor than watching Hopkins and Wright exchange jabs and feints for 12 rounds.
If Wright was fighting Miranda or Hopkins was fighting Dawson I would be interested but Hopkins vs Wright is a hard sell as a PPV event, especially seeing as neither hold any titles.
Agreed that it has a chance of being a bore on paper. If Wright continues to fight offensively and tries to outwork Hopkins then it may be a much better fight than we expect though. The Quartey fight was much more fun to watch than the Ouma vs. Taylor fight IMO. And the Hopkins vs. Tarver fight was better than Hopkins vs. Taylor II also my opinion. So if each fighter fights like their last respective fight, then it may be entertaining. Either way I'm going to go out on a limb and put my money where my mouth is. I'll bet either a cool click or sad click for anyone against my prediction of clear cut UD for Hopkins in favor of clear cut UD for Wright.
Re: Winky ready to ‘retire’ Hopkins!
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
Winky is gonna destroy B-Hop in my opinion. B-Hop has never been a worker and Winky has outworked every fighter that he's ever faced. IMO, it's a one sided blowout for Winky. The only people right now that I think have a shot a beating Winky are JT and JoeCal. Winky's defense is basically impenetrable so to beat him you basically have to outwork him, these are the only two boxers that can do it.
lmao are you kidding me? Bhop will beat him ,he will use his experience ;)
Re: Winky ready to ‘retire’ Hopkins!
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Originally Posted by GOLDENBOY213
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
Winky is gonna destroy B-Hop in my opinion. B-Hop has never been a worker and Winky has outworked every fighter that he's ever faced. IMO, it's a one sided blowout for Winky. The only people right now that I think have a shot a beating Winky are JT and JoeCal. Winky's defense is basically impenetrable so to beat him you basically have to outwork him, these are the only two boxers that can do it.
lmao are you kidding me? Bhop will beat him ,he will use his experience ;)
ronald wright has had more fights than hopkins
hopkins hasnt got that much more experience i mean hopkins started his career in 1988 lost that fight and his second fight wasnt until 1990 and winky started his career in 1990 if winky can fight at high pace like his last outing i think he can beat bernard
Re: Winky ready to ‘retire’ Hopkins!
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by GOLDENBOY213
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
Winky is gonna destroy B-Hop in my opinion. B-Hop has never been a worker and Winky has outworked every fighter that he's ever faced. IMO, it's a one sided blowout for Winky. The only people right now that I think have a shot a beating Winky are JT and JoeCal. Winky's defense is basically impenetrable so to beat him you basically have to outwork him, these are the only two boxers that can do it.
lmao are you kidding me? Bhop will beat him ,he will use his experience ;)
ronald wright has had more fights than hopkins
hopkins hasnt got that much more experience i mean hopkins started his career in 1988 lost that fight and his second fight wasnt until 1990 and winky started his career in 1990 if winky can fight at high pace like his last outing i think he can beat bernard
Not so sure. Imo, a higher pace doesn't equate to Wright being more effective, though it would be a more entertaining fight. Hopkins would have alot more oppourtunies to hit Winky if Wright tried to press the action, imo. Wright has definetly slowed down a bit, he has looked alot more hittable and flat footed lately then when he fought Mosley or Trinidad.. Now add an extra 10 lbs, and who knows?? It's a funny thing but I think Hopkins may honestly be the fresher fighter at this point. He moved up more naturally then Wright will be able to by my estimation. Hopkins was always a fairly large middleweight and he made 160 for almost 15 years without ever fighting over once.. Wright seems like he is doing this simply because the fight is there.. I really doubt he has any trouble still making 160, and could probably even fight at 154 still. Im just not so sure he'll handle the jump up as well as Hopkins did. Few fighters do... Also I don't think Hopkins showed the same signs of slowing down prior to the move up like Wright has. He lost the rematch to Taylor and fought very cautiously, but I honestly think that he was able to increase his output by moving up in weight. He still moved, and used the ring alot better than Wright has been lately, when he was at 160. And I know that's never been so much Winkys style, but it's just the feeling I get, Hopkins looked like he still had more spring in his legs than Winky. And don't forget Hopkins excels against southpaws..
Re: Winky ready to ‘retire’ Hopkins!
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by GOLDENBOY213
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
Winky is gonna destroy B-Hop in my opinion. B-Hop has never been a worker and Winky has outworked every fighter that he's ever faced. IMO, it's a one sided blowout for Winky. The only people right now that I think have a shot a beating Winky are JT and JoeCal. Winky's defense is basically impenetrable so to beat him you basically have to outwork him, these are the only two boxers that can do it.
lmao are you kidding me? Bhop will beat him ,he will use his experience ;)
ronald wright has had more fights than hopkins
hopkins hasnt got that much more experience i mean hopkins started his career in 1988 lost that fight and his second fight wasnt until 1990 and winky started his career in 1990 if winky can fight at high pace like his last outing i think he can beat bernard
Not so sure. Imo, a higher pace doesn't equate to Wright being more effective, though it would be a more entertaining fight. Hopkins would have alot more oppourtunies to hit Winky if Wright tried to press the action, imo. Wright has definetly slowed down a bit, he has looked alot more hittable and flat footed lately then when he fought Mosley or Trinidad.. Now add an extra 10 lbs, and who knows?? It's a funny thing but I think Hopkins may honestly be the fresher fighter at this point. He moved up more naturally then Wright will be able to by my estimation. Hopkins was always a fairly large middleweight and he made 160 for almost 15 years without ever fighting over once.. Wright seems like he is doing this simply because the fight is there.. I really doubt he has any trouble still making 160, and could probably even fight at 154 still. Im just not so sure he'll handle the jump up as well as Hopkins did. Few fighters do... Also I don't think Hopkins showed the same signs of slowing down prior to the move up like Wright has. He lost the rematch to Taylor and fought very cautiously, but I honestly think that he was able to increase his output by moving up in weight. He still moved, and used the ring alot better than Wright has been lately, when he was at 160. And I know that's never been so much Winkys style, but it's just the feeling I get, Hopkins looked like he still had more spring in his legs than Winky.
And don't forget Hopkins excels against southpaws..
Very true tid bit of information that no one has mentioned lately. CC. Antonio Tarver. Robert Allen. Carl Daniels. Keith Holmes. Some of those being slick south paw types that Hopkins has frustrated with his rough house tactics and dominated with his short sharp counters and lead right hands.
