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Re: Who's best heavy champ Wlad,Oleg,Valuev,Briggs
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
Wlad easily has the best skills of the bunch and would win the majority of the time against the other belt holders.
Valuev would be second mostly due to him being so tall. Not a lot of skills but his height gives him a good advatage over the other two.
Oleg worst of the bunch, slow plodding. Does have a good chin and power and because of that you really cant rule him out of a fight against any of the others. The only reason he is third is because he would beat Briggs.
Briggs would be last. If he could fix his stamina issues he would rival Wlad. Briggs has good hand speed and power, but due to lack of stamina cant put good combos together for long or throw more than 5 punches a round past the first. Got extremely lucky against Lykhovich.
I have these two the other way round on my list but styles make fights and Oleg may just be too busy for a plodding Briggs . But also Valuevs style would suit Briggs more . Shannon needs a stationary target in order for him to unload . If he got close to Valuev he would let his combos go and im sure Valuev would fall under the attack . Nikolay wouldnt box and move . Theyd meet center ring and I'd have to go with the quicker more powerful guy . So the bottom 3 could really be in any order but we cant dispute that Wvlad is a deserving number 1 . He'd blast Maskeav out in no time .He'd be cautious against Briggs but force a mid - late round stoppgae when the Yanks stamina had gone and he'd jab Valuevs head off for 12 rounds.
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Re: Who's best heavy champ Wlad,Oleg,Valuev,Briggs
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Re: Who's best heavy champ Wlad,Oleg,Valuev,Briggs
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Originally Posted by GAME
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
Wlad easily has the best skills of the bunch and would win the majority of the time against the other belt holders.
Valuev would be second mostly due to him being so tall. Not a lot of skills but his height gives him a good advatage over the other two.
Oleg worst of the bunch, slow plodding. Does have a good chin and power and because of that you really cant rule him out of a fight against any of the others. The only reason he is third is because he would beat Briggs.
Briggs would be last. If he could fix his stamina issues he would rival Wlad. Briggs has good hand speed and power, but due to lack of stamina cant put good combos together for long or throw more than 5 punches a round past the first. Got extremely lucky against Lykhovich.
I have these two the other way round on my list but styles make fights and Oleg may just be too busy for a plodding Briggs . But also Valuevs style would suit Briggs more . Shannon needs a stationary target in order for him to unload . If he got close to Valuev he would let his combos go and im sure Valuev would fall under the attack . Nikolay wouldnt box and move . Theyd meet center ring and I'd have to go with the quicker more powerful guy . So the bottom 3 could really be in any order but we cant dispute that Wvlad is a deserving number 1 . He'd blast Maskeav out in no time .He'd be cautious against Briggs but force a mid - late round stoppgae when the Yanks stamina had gone and he'd jab Valuevs head off for 12 rounds.
The only reason I put Briggs last is that I really think the Oleg would get a late (T)KO against him. Depending on Valuev's chin quality he could too. Briggs has the skills to be a great champion but his stamina sucks. IF he could get his stamina up I think he would give Wlad a good run.
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Re: Who's best heavy champ Wlad,Oleg,Valuev,Briggs
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Re: Who's best heavy champ Wlad,Oleg,Valuev,Briggs
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Originally Posted by bilbo
Matt Skelton is the truth.
Once he gets past Sprott...well wait and see.
He looked like Ali in the rematch against Williams, dancing around him all fleet footed.
He's the complete package imo
;D
CC
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Re: Who's best heavy champ Wlad,Oleg,Valuev,Briggs
Umm let me think?Oh yea!
WLADIMIR
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Re: Who's best heavy champ Wlad,Oleg,Valuev,Briggs
Wlad is the best in my opinion, but until they unify it is only speculation. Until we get back to knowing who the true Heavyweight champ is the division will continue to be an afterthought. At welter you have Floyd, at lightweight you have Pac man, but at heavyweight its all speculation. If they all fought, I think Wlad comes out on top.
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Re: Who's best heavy champ Wlad,Oleg,Valuev,Briggs
wlad is the man at heavy but seriously how long has it been since we had a heavy weight unification?
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Re: Who's best heavy champ Wlad,Oleg,Valuev,Briggs
Easily Wlad, and we really are due a unification bout of some sort. These "champs" get the belts and they just dont fight enough.
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Re: Who's best heavy champ Wlad,Oleg,Valuev,Briggs
wlad, valuev, oleg, briggs
All still beatable by CORRIE SANDERS
wlad still doesnt have the tools to see the left, Valuev was humiliated in sparring w Corrie, oleg is too slow, briggs is too slow and tired.
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Re: Who's best heavy champ Wlad,Oleg,Valuev,Briggs
Despite going 8 rounds and not going down, and getting him to fall down in the first, I think that VITALI can beat Sanders everytime, but Wlad cannot. So SANDERS beats Briggs or Vlauev or mask or chagaev... and then he gets a rematch w a Klitschko
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Re: Who's best heavy champ Wlad,Oleg,Valuev,Briggs
I fancy Wlad's chances vs Sanders if there was a rematch
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Re: Who's best heavy champ Wlad,Oleg,Valuev,Briggs
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Originally Posted by plinden
wlad, valuev, oleg, briggs
All still beatable by CORRIE SANDERS
wlad still doesnt have the tools to see the left, Valuev was humiliated in sparring w Corrie, oleg is too slow, briggs is too slow and tired.
Valuev EATS Corrie Sanders and passes him out as a turd!
The huge man beast is unbeatable! He leans all over Corrie till he is crushed beneath the mass of sweaty hair and suffocates!
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Re: Who's best heavy champ Wlad,Oleg,Valuev,Briggs
Honestly...I haven't been in the same boat with the majority of boxing fans concerning matters of 200+.
Sure I miss Vitali & Lennox...but the division aint as bad as everyone makes it out to be.
I like Sam Peter alot & Wlad has grown on me as a spot filler for Vitali. In the end...Wlad's more skilled than his big brother...but just a bit less effective.
Samuel Peter shows much promise &, IWO, he's a damned exciting fighter that is...shockingly improving. He's basically a knockout artist that's turning into a boxer now. He did what no one has done what no other heavyweight has...& quite simply that is to beat & plant Toney's ass on the mat. I was thrilled.
I also think that Valuev is good for the sport if he continues to keep winning & fights some more names. The thing about Valuev is that I got into him mainly as a novelty of sort & then realized that he's also improving & might have something to offer the game.
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Re: Who's best heavy champ Wlad,Oleg,Valuev,Briggs
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
Honestly...I haven't been in the same boat with the majority of boxing fans concerning matters of 200+.
Sure I miss Vitali & Lennox...but the division aint as bad as everyone makes it out to be.
I like Sam Peter alot & Wlad has grown on me as a spot filler for Vitali. In the end...Wlad's more skilled than his big brother...but just a bit less effective.
Samuel Peter shows much promise &, IWO, he's a damned exciting fighter that is...shockingly improving. He's basically a knockout artist that's turning into a boxer now. He did what no one has done what no other heavyweight has...& quite simply that is to beat & plant Toney's a** on the mat. I was thrilled.
I also think that Valuev is good for the sport if he continues to keep winning & fights some more names. The thing about Valuev is that I got into him mainly as a novelty of sort & then realized that he's also improving & might have something to offer the game.
Yes he will have something to offer the sport....
An undefeated, all time record breaking, Undeniable, 4 belt holding, undisputed, unified, heavyweight champion.
oh ya.....and those Teen Idol good looks!