Re: Cotto is better than Tito!
Titto didn't end Vargas's career. Didnt you see the last thrillers with Mosely?? ;D
Re: Cotto is better than Tito!
i think what the topic starter might mean is that cotto appear to have better boxing skills then tito. cotto looks to be alittle more well rounded in the ring. his defense is better footwork is better. tito was always alittle wobbly early in fights.
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i can't say that just yet.
tito gave oscar his first loss.( no matter what you think Tito got the win that night and says alot) he also beat vargas, mayorga, oba carr and joppy.
the best fighter cotto has fought off the top of my head is chop chop.
According to CompuBox punch analysis, De La Hoya landed 263 of 648 total punches, and Trinidad land 116 of 462. In terms of power punches, De La Hoya landed 120 of 277, and Trinidad 124 of 318.
oscar definetly should of won :)
You know, there's a reason the fight is scored by rounds ;) I had it a draw because Oscar gave away the last 3 rounds and in those rounds, Tito clearly won even though he didn't land many punches.
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Originally Posted by amat
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
i can't say that just yet.
tito gave oscar his first loss.( no matter what you think Tito got the win that night and says alot) he also beat vargas, mayorga, oba carr and joppy.
the best fighter cotto has fought off the top of my head is chop chop.
According to CompuBox punch analysis, De La Hoya landed 263 of 648 total punches, and Trinidad land 116 of 462. In terms of power punches, De La Hoya landed 120 of 277, and Trinidad 124 of 318.
oscar definetly should of won :)
You know, there's a reason the fight is scored by rounds ;) I had it a draw because Oscar gave away the last 3 rounds and in those rounds, Tito clearly won even though he didn't land many punches.
best tito could of done through first 9 rounds is 6 rounds to 3 he didnt do enough imo to win and i dont know how judges could have first 9 rounds any closer than 6 rounds to 3 :-\
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see this is what i didn't want to happen. i did not want a debate about the oscar tito fight.
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see this is what i didn't want to happen. i did not want a debate about the oscar tito fight.
its cool im done with it now just wanted to say one last thing
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Originally Posted by amat
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
i can't say that just yet.
tito gave oscar his first loss.( no matter what you think Tito got the win that night and says alot) he also beat vargas, mayorga, oba carr and joppy.
the best fighter cotto has fought off the top of my head is chop chop.
According to CompuBox punch analysis, De La Hoya landed 263 of 648 total punches, and Trinidad land 116 of 462. In terms of power punches, De La Hoya landed 120 of 277, and Trinidad 124 of 318.
oscar definetly should of won :)
You know, there's a reason the fight is scored by rounds ;) I had it a draw because Oscar gave away the last 3 rounds and in those rounds, Tito clearly won even though he didn't land many punches.
best tito could of done through first 9 rounds is 6 rounds to 3 he didnt do enough imo to win and i dont know how judges could have first 9 rounds any closer than 6 rounds to 3 :-\
I thought it was a draw...so that fits I guess...but punch stats would suggest a blowout. And it wasn't...
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I agree. The fight wasnt a blowout and punchstats are very misleading.
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Originally Posted by amat
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by amat
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
i can't say that just yet.
tito gave oscar his first loss.( no matter what you think Tito got the win that night and says alot) he also beat vargas, mayorga, oba carr and joppy.
the best fighter cotto has fought off the top of my head is chop chop.
According to CompuBox punch analysis, De La Hoya landed 263 of 648 total punches, and Trinidad land 116 of 462. In terms of power punches, De La Hoya landed 120 of 277, and Trinidad 124 of 318.
oscar definetly should of won :)
You know, there's a reason the fight is scored by rounds ;) I had it a draw because Oscar gave away the last 3 rounds and in those rounds, Tito clearly won even though he didn't land many punches.
best tito could of done through first 9 rounds is 6 rounds to 3 he didnt do enough imo to win and i dont know how judges could have first 9 rounds any closer than 6 rounds to 3 :-\
I thought it was a draw...so that fits I guess...but punch stats would suggest a blowout. And it wasn't...
Totally agree bro! As for the thread...hmmmm.well in terms of accomplishments,it's far far too early to say,Tito is a legend,Cotto in one in the making but still has a long time to go. I think in terms of skill,Cotto has more variety than Tito as he can also fight going backwards very well BUT Tito totally mastered the basics:the jab was shotgun like,the right hands and the left hook and in a fight,I think most of us would favour Tito by KO. So I don't think Cotto is better than Tito in any aspect just yet,it would be better to say he "Could" grow to be better than Tito but that is a big ask~!
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Upto now Tito is the best of the two but Cotto still as a good few year to come through as the better of the two but if they had fought Tito wins by ko round4 Cotto has been shook up a few times Tito don't shake you he ko's you
Re: Cotto is better than Tito!
Cotto cant carry Tito's jockstrap, and if everyone thinks PBF is retiring after his next fight must believe every fighter when they say that. PBF vs. Cotto next year. Fighters dont retire they just say they are.
Re: Cotto is better than Tito!
yea to early Tito was top fighter Cotto has long way to go to be as good but whos to say he cant do it ?
Re: Cotto is better than Tito!
This is fkking blaspheme. To say Cotto is better than Trinidad, an ATG is rediculous. This is like saying Alexei Dimitrenko is better than Larry Holmes. I'm gonna post 20 times today just so I can SC someone.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
i can't say that just yet.
tito gave oscar his first loss.( no matter what you think Tito got the win that night and says alot) he also beat vargas, mayorga, oba carr and joppy.
the best fighter cotto has fought off the top of my head is chop chop.
According to CompuBox punch analysis, De La Hoya landed 263 of 648 total punches, and Trinidad land 116 of 462. In terms of power punches, De La Hoya landed 120 of 277, and Trinidad 124 of 318.
oscar definetly should of won :)
Completely disagree bro.. You should know better then to go by numbers..
So say oscar throws lots of punches during the first round and wins that round..
And in the second tito throws half or a third as many punches.. DOesnt land at such a good percentage but is much busyer and takes the round...
You know punch stat numbers cant be relied on..
The same arguemnt applies for alot of what toney has done.. Toney has won round on round on round throwing not a great deal of punches.. And the rounds which he looses is when he is sat on the ropes pciking the odd shot.. N his opponent can throw.. But doesnt mean he won the most rounds..
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For the record i had tito winning 4,5 then 9 through 12..
And there was one round which i felt he won also.. Either 2 or 7.. I remember its one of the two but cant seem to remember why..
This was because oscar was moving jabbing a little.. Tito stayed consistant to throw the punches while oscar moved away.. and oscar was landing some nice shots ..Hed stop throw two or three strait shots..
Move again..But not enough punching and too much moving to score quite a few of the rounds for oscar imo..
Judges always have a thing about not scoring very well for fighters who stick and move..
I Remember i saw a terrible one on espn one time.. Horrible.. A twelve round lesson from this nice boxer..
ended up loosing 10 rounds to 2
