Re: Holyfield Named in Report on Internet Steroid Bust
society make out steroids to be worse than they really are!....people have the idea that roids will make you super strong like ivan drago,and its just not the case! all roids do is help repair damaged musle tissue so you can work out harder.......if anything people on steroids have to work out harder than those who do it naturally.
.....and holfeild was definatly on the juice at some point in his career...its almost impossible for someone to bulk up that much naturally
Re: Holyfield Named in Report on Internet Steroid Bust
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Who cares? I personally think that we, as sports fans, are entitled to see the best athletes that science can produce!!!! ;D Im really only half kidding.
I completely agree with you. I really don't see the big deal. If it is because of one fighter or any athlete for that matter gaining an unfair advantage then what about those athletes who can only afford to train part time?
Should they outlaw being able to devote yourself full time to your chosen sport because others like the world's greatest dad Bonsante have to work the nightshift at Walmart?
Personally that to me is more unfair than steroids. Poor Anthony has to train during the day when he should be sleeping, then goes to work ALL NIGHT, comes back, takes the kids to school, quick nap, train, back to work etc.
John Duddy his next opponent has no job to worry about, has a fulltime trainer, coaching staff etc and is devoted 24/7 to winning his fights.
Under these circumstances I'd be all for Bonsante being able to take whatever the hell he wanted. :-\
Re: Holyfield Named in Report on Internet Steroid Bust
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Originally Posted by MR T
society make out steroids to be worse than they really are!....people have the idea that roids will make you super strong like ivan drago,and its just not the case! all roids do is help repair damaged musle tissue so you can work out harder.......if anything people on steroids have to work out harder than those who do it naturally.
.....and holfeild was definatly on the juice at some point in his career...its almost impossible for someone to bulk up that much naturally
I dont know where you get your info but you got it backward my friend Steroids harms your body and yes yes you can bulk up naturally. Tyson never used steroids
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Who cares? I personally think that we, as sports fans, are entitled to see the best athletes that science can produce!!!! ;D Im really only half kidding.
I completely agree with you. I really don't see the big deal. If it is because of one fighter or any athlete for that matter gaining an unfair advantage then what about those athletes who can only afford to train part time?
Should they outlaw being able to devote yourself full time to your chosen sport because others like the world's greatest dad Bonsante have to work the nightshift at Walmart?
Personally that to me is more unfair than steroids. Poor Anthony has to train during the day when he should be sleeping, then goes to work ALL NIGHT, comes back, takes the kids to school, quick nap, train, back to work etc.
John Duddy his next opponent has no job to worry about, has a fulltime trainer, coaching staff etc and is devoted 24/7 to winning his fights.
Under these circumstances I'd be all for Bonsante being able to take whatever the hell he wanted. :-\
if they allowed steroids then lazy fighters who dont bother to train would just use them constantly and say other guy trained his hardest and other guy just used steroids and guy with steroids won would that be fair hell no :P
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Who cares? I personally think that we, as sports fans, are entitled to see the best athletes that science can produce!!!! ;D Im really only half kidding.
I completely agree with you. I really don't see the big deal. If it is because of one fighter or any athlete for that matter gaining an unfair advantage then what about those athletes who can only afford to train part time?
Should they outlaw being able to devote yourself full time to your chosen sport because others like the world's greatest dad Bonsante have to work the nightshift at Walmart?
Personally that to me is more unfair than steroids. Poor Anthony has to train during the day when he should be sleeping, then goes to work ALL NIGHT, comes back, takes the kids to school, quick nap, train, back to work etc.
John Duddy his next opponent has no job to worry about, has a fulltime trainer, coaching staff etc and is devoted 24/7 to winning his fights.
Under these circumstances I'd be all for Bonsante being able to take whatever the hell he wanted. :-\
if they allowed steroids then lazy fighters who dont bother to train would just use them constantly and say other guy trained his hardest and other guy just used steroids and guy with steroids won would that be fair hell no :P
Sounds fair to me. I personally would love to see some fighters get injected with Kevlar armour under their skin and to some kind of bionic arm insertions!
It's the 21st century for fuk's sake, we should be saving the heavyweight division by creating a race of super fighters.
Who would bother to watch UFC or Pride if the heavyweight boxing scene was ruled over by Russian Terminators and armour plated super hero's.
They would be ten times bigger than Tyson in his hayday, they should make this happen.........
Re: Holyfield Named in Report on Internet Steroid Bust
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Originally Posted by BoomBoom
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Originally Posted by MR T
society make out steroids to be worse than they really are!....people have the idea that roids will make you super strong like ivan drago,and its just not the case! all roids do is help repair damaged musle tissue so you can work out harder.......if anything people on steroids have to work out harder than those who do it naturally.
.....and holfeild was definatly on the juice at some point in his career...its almost impossible for someone to bulk up that much naturally
I dont know where you get your info but you got it backward my friend Steroids harms your body and yes yes you can bulk up naturally. Tyson never used steroids
did i say tyson used steroids ??? and how do i have it backwards? would you care to elaborate! have you ever used them or just read magazine clippings....you sound very uneducated on the matter and its almost impossible to huge without steroids......
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Originally Posted by beerjelly
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Who cares? I personally think that we, as sports fans, are entitled to see the best athletes that science can produce!!!! ;D Im really only half kidding.
To be honest that kindof makes sense. I read an article once before about the various banned substances in sports (not only boxing and also not just steroids but a lot of lesser things) and it makes you wonder - steroids - when combined with proper training make you faster, stronger, etc - banned. Energy drinks such as Lucozade - when combined with proper training make you faster, stronger, etc - perfectly legal. Really whats the difference? Now im not saying I agree with the use of steroids but if they really were as widespread as some people believe (and they're probably not) then would it not make sense to just give up the testing and let the athletes get on with it? Just made me think.
I think the issue is that steroids are actaully pretty dangerous , and have lots of weird side effects etc, and athletes should not have to think that they have no choice but to do this mind and body altering thing to compete in a sport.
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Who cares? I personally think that we, as sports fans, are entitled to see the best athletes that science can produce!!!! ;D Im really only half kidding.
I completely agree with you. I really don't see the big deal. If it is because of one fighter or any athlete for that matter gaining an unfair advantage then what about those athletes who can only afford to train part time?
Should they outlaw being able to devote yourself full time to your chosen sport because others like the world's greatest dad Bonsante have to work the nightshift at Walmart?
Personally that to me is more unfair than steroids. Poor Anthony has to train during the day when he should be sleeping, then goes to work ALL NIGHT, comes back, takes the kids to school, quick nap, train, back to work etc.
John Duddy his next opponent has no job to worry about, has a fulltime trainer, coaching staff etc and is devoted 24/7 to winning his fights.
Under these circumstances I'd be all for Bonsante being able to take whatever the hell he wanted. :-\
if they allowed steroids then lazy fighters who dont bother to train would just use them constantly and say other guy trained his hardest and other guy just used steroids and guy with steroids won would that be fair hell no :P
Sounds fair to me. I personally would love to see some fighters get injected with Kevlar armour under their skin and to some kind of bionic arm insertions!
It's the 21st century for fuk's sake, we should be saving the heavyweight division by creating a race of super fighters.
Who would bother to watch UFC or Pride if the heavyweight boxing scene was ruled over by Russian Terminators and armour plated super hero's.
They would be ten times bigger than Tyson in his hayday, they should make this happen.........
CC Bilbo i agree. Imagine Valuev on juice!!! He'd KO people with his bitch tits ;D
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Originally Posted by MR T
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Originally Posted by BoomBoom
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society make out steroids to be worse than they really are!....people have the idea that roids will make you super strong like ivan drago,and its just not the case! all roids do is help repair damaged musle tissue so you can work out harder.......if anything people on steroids have to work out harder than those who do it naturally.
.....and holfeild was definatly on the juice at some point in his career...its almost impossible for someone to bulk up that much naturally
I dont know where you get your info but you got it backward my friend Steroids harms your body and yes yes you can bulk up naturally. Tyson never used steroids
did i say tyson used steroids ??? and how do i have it backwards? would you care to elaborate! have you ever used them or just read magazine clippings....you sound very uneducated on the matter and its almost impossible to huge without steroids......
My point is that you dont have to use steroids to get big. There are plenty of athletes with a holyfield phisique that never touched them. People on steroids only have to work harder?? How is that. Sticking a needle in your arm isnt the hardest workout. Personally i dont respect athletes that juice up and as a boxer it definately doesnt help you perform in any way
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Originally Posted by BoomBoom
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Originally Posted by MR T
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Originally Posted by BoomBoom
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Originally Posted by MR T
society make out steroids to be worse than they really are!....people have the idea that roids will make you super strong like ivan drago,and its just not the case! all roids do is help repair damaged musle tissue so you can work out harder.......if anything people on steroids have to work out harder than those who do it naturally.
.....and holfeild was definatly on the juice at some point in his career...its almost impossible for someone to bulk up that much naturally
I dont know where you get your info but you got it backward my friend Steroids harms your body and yes yes you can bulk up naturally. Tyson never used steroids
did i say tyson used steroids ??? and how do i have it backwards? would you care to elaborate! have you ever used them or just read magazine clippings....you sound very uneducated on the matter and its almost impossible to huge without steroids......
My point is that you dont have to use steroids to get big. There are plenty of athletes with a holyfield phisique that never touched them. People on steroids only have to work harder?? How is that. Sticking a needle in your arm isnt the hardest workout. Personally i dont respect athletes that juice up and
as a boxer it definately doesnt help you perform in any way
What? Of course it helps and a lot. Id guess 90%+ of the top ten in each dev take some form of steroids,hgh,epo,etc...they DO help and for the amount of $$$ the elite boxers make its worth it and really they have no choice but to take them because their opponents are too.
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by BoomBoom
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Originally Posted by MR T
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Originally Posted by BoomBoom
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Originally Posted by MR T
society make out steroids to be worse than they really are!....people have the idea that roids will make you super strong like ivan drago,and its just not the case! all roids do is help repair damaged musle tissue so you can work out harder.......if anything people on steroids have to work out harder than those who do it naturally.
.....and holfeild was definatly on the juice at some point in his career...its almost impossible for someone to bulk up that much naturally
I dont know where you get your info but you got it backward my friend Steroids harms your body and yes yes you can bulk up naturally. Tyson never used steroids
did i say tyson used steroids ??? and how do i have it backwards? would you care to elaborate! have you ever used them or just read magazine clippings....you sound very uneducated on the matter and its almost impossible to huge without steroids......
My point is that you dont have to use steroids to get big. There are plenty of athletes with a holyfield phisique that never touched them. People on steroids only have to work harder?? How is that. Sticking a needle in your arm isnt the hardest workout. Personally i dont respect athletes that juice up and
as a boxer it definately doesnt help you perform in any way
What? Of course it helps and a lot. Id guess 90%+ of the top ten in each dev take some form of steroids,hgh,epo,etc...they DO help and for the amount of $$$ the elite boxers make its worth it and really they have no choice but to take them because their opponents are too.
Im speaking off experience. i never touched the stuff but i have worked with guys who have and im telling you it ruined them mentally and slowed them down phisically. Now i can only think of maybe a couple boxers i know professional and amateur that use them 99% dont. Im talking about illegal steroids not supplements, etc. Ive trained with some very sucessful pros that fought at high levels and they werent concerned with what their opponents were doing or not.
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I'm sure there are some boxers out there who are on steroids
Understatement of the year.
I'm sure steroids are just as rampant in boxing in boxing as they are in any other sport, probably even moreso do the conditioning required to be a top level professional boxer. I'm not niave about it, I know that chances are my favorite boxers of today probably use steroids.
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Originally Posted by BoomBoom
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by BoomBoom
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Originally Posted by MR T
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Originally Posted by BoomBoom
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Originally Posted by MR T
society make out steroids to be worse than they really are!....people have the idea that roids will make you super strong like ivan drago,and its just not the case! all roids do is help repair damaged musle tissue so you can work out harder.......if anything people on steroids have to work out harder than those who do it naturally.
.....and holfeild was definatly on the juice at some point in his career...its almost impossible for someone to bulk up that much naturally
I dont know where you get your info but you got it backward my friend Steroids harms your body and yes yes you can bulk up naturally. Tyson never used steroids
did i say tyson used steroids ??? and how do i have it backwards? would you care to elaborate! have you ever used them or just read magazine clippings....you sound very uneducated on the matter and its almost impossible to huge without steroids......
My point is that you dont have to use steroids to get big. There are plenty of athletes with a holyfield phisique that never touched them. People on steroids only have to work harder?? How is that. Sticking a needle in your arm isnt the hardest workout. Personally i dont respect athletes that juice up and
as a boxer it definately doesnt help you perform in any way
What? Of course it helps and a lot. Id guess 90%+ of the top ten in each dev take some form of steroids,hgh,epo,etc...they DO help and for the amount of $$$ the elite boxers make its worth it and really they have no choice but to take them because their opponents are too.
Im speaking off experience. i never touched the stuff but i have worked with guys who have and im telling you it ruined them mentally and slowed them down phisically. Now i can only think of maybe a couple boxers i know professional and amateur that use them 99% dont. Im talking about illegal steroids not supplements, etc. Ive trained with some very sucessful pros that fought at high levels and they werent concerned with what their opponents were doing or not.
EPO wont slow you down. The perfect drug for lower weight classes. Ruin guys mentally? That simply isnt possible. Steroids and the like do not effect your brain. "Roid rage" and such are myths. As far as slowing a boxer down, I can only see that happening to a boxer in a lower dev who put on to much muscle. Even then with a good "trainer" they will figure out the right combo of steroids,hgh,epo and whatever else some chemist can create. "Steroids" work,no doubt about it.
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by BoomBoom
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by BoomBoom
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Originally Posted by MR T
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Originally Posted by BoomBoom
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Originally Posted by MR T
society make out steroids to be worse than they really are!....people have the idea that roids will make you super strong like ivan drago,and its just not the case! all roids do is help repair damaged musle tissue so you can work out harder.......if anything people on steroids have to work out harder than those who do it naturally.
.....and holfeild was definatly on the juice at some point in his career...its almost impossible for someone to bulk up that much naturally
I dont know where you get your info but you got it backward my friend Steroids harms your body and yes yes you can bulk up naturally. Tyson never used steroids
did i say tyson used steroids ??? and how do i have it backwards? would you care to elaborate! have you ever used them or just read magazine clippings....you sound very uneducated on the matter and its almost impossible to huge without steroids......
My point is that you dont have to use steroids to get big. There are plenty of athletes with a holyfield phisique that never touched them. People on steroids only have to work harder?? How is that. Sticking a needle in your arm isnt the hardest workout. Personally i dont respect athletes that juice up and
as a boxer it definately doesnt help you perform in any way
What? Of course it helps and a lot. Id guess 90%+ of the top ten in each dev take some form of steroids,hgh,epo,etc...they DO help and for the amount of $$$ the elite boxers make its worth it and really they have no choice but to take them because their opponents are too.
Im speaking off experience. i never touched the stuff but i have worked with guys who have and im telling you it ruined them mentally and slowed them down phisically. Now i can only think of maybe a couple boxers i know professional and amateur that use them 99% dont. Im talking about illegal steroids not supplements, etc. Ive trained with some very sucessful pros that fought at high levels and they werent concerned with what their opponents were doing or not.
EPO wont slow you down. The perfect drug for lower weight classes. Ruin guys mentally? That simply isnt possible. Steroids and the like do not effect your brain. "Roid rage" and such are myths. As far as slowing a boxer down, I can only see that happening to a boxer in a lower dev who put on to much muscle. Even then with a good "trainer" they will figure out the right combo of steroids,hgh,epo and whatever else some chemist can create. "Steroids" work,no doubt about it.
errr they dont effect you mentally... Steroids are mostly basically hormones , they effect your brain alot during and after the cycle, I have a body building buddy who when he finished his roid cycle, started crying everynight because of the lack of testostorone he was naturally producing.
Still i do agree, steroids definately would work for boxing , and im sure do.
Re: Holyfield Named in Report on Internet Steroid Bust
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Originally Posted by MR T
society make out steroids to be worse than they really are!....people have the idea that roids will make you super strong like ivan drago,and its just not the case! all roids do is help repair damaged musle tissue so you can work out harder.......if anything people on steroids have to work out harder than those who do it naturally.
.....and holfeild was definatly on the juice at some point in his career...its almost impossible for someone to bulk up that much naturally
Ist of March and we already have dumbest post of the year. You obviously do not know enough abput steroids to defend them or accuse somebody else of taking them.
If your on a steroid cycle you might have the extra incentive to work out harder for the duration of the cycle and the pct but to say a juicer works harder than a natural athlete or bodybuilder basically tells me you don't know a great deal about working out naturally. Just because a guy is big, it doesn't mean he is on steroids. You sound like a jealous skinny guy who is thinking about trying them.
