Unlikely Great Pro Boxers?

Roberto Duran was 13-3 i believe as an amateur,
Julio Caesar Chavez didnt have any amateur experince i dont think
and his JCC Jr. definately doesnt

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Originally Posted by Memphis

Violent demise you dont think your taking the wording just a bit too literally?

Cotto was a pretty ordinary amateur wasnt he?

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Maybe. But it says what it says.

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

cotto is far from great, as well



7 months from today, and you Judah won't even remember the name "Miguel Cotto" after he's been KTFO.


Judah is gonna talk trash to the prospect, bet the house on it ;)

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Seriously tho...... Judah's best chance is to aim for Miguel's nuts, and then rabbit punch him when he bends over. Oh wait... it didn't work against Mayweather, did it.

;D

I doubt many all time greats managed it without amatuer experience. I know Johnny Nelson lost his first 3 pro fights and ended up a world champ.

Thats about as bad a start as you can get.

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I doubt many all time greats managed it without amatuer experience. I know Johnny Nelson lost his first 3 pro fights and ended up a world champ.

Thats about as bad a start as you can get.

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I doubt many all time greats managed it without amatuer experience. I know Johnny Nelson lost his first 3 pro fights and ended up a world champ.

Thats about as bad a start as you can get.

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And both Marquez Brother lost their debuts

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I've heard a lot about guys who have had amazing amateur careers, won Olympic medals and other championships, but just didn't make the transition to professional very well and fell far short of their potential.

What about vice versa? Does anyone know of any fighters who had bad or average amateur careers but went on to be great in the pros?

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chris eubank

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Chris Eubank was never a great fighter. Eubank and the word "great" do not go together. I doesn't matter how much the UK fans pump him up to be. It's just not true. Wins over club fighters Michael Watson and Thulani Malinga (a F****** gift) are not great accomplishments. Hell the man in all reality loss twice to Ray Close. But was given a gift draw and gift win over him. Just cuz he's foolish enough to think he is, Eubank is not great. Far from it.

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Michael Watson a club fighter ? He Ko'ed Nigel Benn who was world class, so going by your logic i guess both Benn and Gerald Mcclelan were club fighters too eh ?

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I doubt many all time greats managed it without amatuer experience. I know Johnny Nelson lost his first 3 pro fights and ended up a world champ.

Thats about as bad a start as you can get.

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And both Marquez Brother lost their debuts

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as did Calzaghe and James Toney

Rocky Marciano had two so-called 'amateur' bouts, I believe.

He was disqualified on both for persistent fouling, and it is fair to say he was heading for defeats as his style was particularly unsuited to amateur 3 rounders.

I would have thought he is the best example of this yet?

I thought rocky was 11-3 as an amateur? Either way he is a good example

Kelly oliver..Three time aba campion.. Only made cruiserweight wbo intercontinental champ...


Also..For me..Clazaghe.. He won the aba's two times wasnt it?.. But hasnt fought the competition he should have..He should have been huge way before now

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Kelly oliver..Three time aba campion.. Only made cruiserweight wbo intercontinental champ...


Also..For me..Clazaghe.. He won the aba's two times wasnt it?.. But hasnt fought the competition he should have..He should have been huge way before now

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Calzaghe had a steller amatuer record. I believe he was the only man in British history to win 3 ABA titles at 3 different weights.

It's struck me that possibly the best current example is Anthony Mundine.

I'm not sure if he boxed as an amatuer but he was a top Aussie Rules football player before he turned pro in his twenties. He may not have had any amatuer experience at all, does anyone know? Where's Snakey?

im not sure about his amateur career exactly but im sure kermit cintron didnt have much of an amateur career, as he was a pretty good wrestler in college or some other sport, not sure the exact facts but heard the commentators menton it on one of his fights