joe fraizer vs larry holmes plus prime larry holmes vs mike tyson

Holmes win both fights by UD IMO. I think a prime Tyson would be the more difficult fight though. Holmes jab wins the fight for me!

Holmes wins both. Perfect style matchup for Larry. He is the blueprint for the type of fighter who can beat both Tyson and Frazier.
He's a tall fighter with a long reach and a GREAT jab, and they're both short fighters with short arms who are vulnerable to good jabs.

Holmes ud Frazier
Holmes ko 11 Tyson
that my opinion

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I think Holmes wins on points against Frazier but i think Tyson still ko's him he were'nt that far gone in there fight in 88 and lets not forget what holmes did after Tyson fight going distance with heavyweight champs Holyfield and Mcall and the mcall one was a juster

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suppose you think tyson would ko everyone? he couldnt even ko tucker and bonecrusher what makes you think he could ko a young dancing larry holmes
.......i think tyson wins decision, but he would only get ko if holmes stoped moving and decided to fight tyson

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No i don't think Tyson ko's everybody but i do think a prime Tyson would still ko a prime Holmes and regards to bonecrusher smith he was their just surviving for 12 rounds he did'nt realy open up and tucker was a good fighter he was unbeaten when they met and years later went distance with lennox so he could'nt be that bad

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I think Holmes wins on points against Frazier but i think Tyson still ko's him he were'nt that far gone in there fight in 88 and lets not forget what holmes did after Tyson fight going distance with heavyweight champs Holyfield and Mcall and the mcall one was a juster

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suppose you think tyson would ko everyone? he couldnt even ko tucker and bonecrusher what makes you think he could ko a young dancing larry holmes
.......i think tyson wins decision, but he would only get ko if holmes stoped moving and decided to fight tyson

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No i don't think Tyson ko's everybody but i do think a prime Tyson would still ko a prime Holmes and regards to bonecrusher smith he was their just surviving for 12 rounds he did'nt realy open up and tucker was a good fighter he was unbeaten when they met and years later went distance with lennox so he could'nt be that bad

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tony tucker went distance because he used movement and gave tyson some trouble correct ?? right holmes was far better at movement and speed than tucker in his prime and holmes chin was excellent aswell so why cant holmes go distance ??

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yes i know tyson is in another one of my threads but people love to talk about tyson match ups so lets have it folks who wins holmes vs fraizer and holmes vs tyson

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HOLMES would beat the shit out the two of them. They wouldnt even be close.

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I think Holmes wins on points against Frazier but i think Tyson still ko's him he were'nt that far gone in there fight in 88 and lets not forget what holmes did after Tyson fight going distance with heavyweight champs Holyfield and Mcall and the mcall one was a juster

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suppose you think tyson would ko everyone? he couldnt even ko tucker and bonecrusher what makes you think he could ko a young dancing larry holmes
.......i think tyson wins decision, but he would only get ko if holmes stoped moving and decided to fight tyson

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No i don't think Tyson ko's everybody but i do think a prime Tyson would still ko a prime Holmes and regards to bonecrusher smith he was their just surviving for 12 rounds he did'nt realy open up and tucker was a good fighter he was unbeaten when they met and years later went distance with lennox so he could'nt be that bad

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tony tucker went distance because he used movement and gave tyson some trouble correct ?? right holmes was far better at movement and speed than tucker in his prime and holmes chin was excellent aswell so why cant holmes go distance ??

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Just because Tucker went the distance i would'nt say he was giving Tyson trouble the scores reflect that.The reason i think he ko's Holmes is because he were'nt his best but he were'nt that far past it 3 knockdowns and the 3rd out cold and after the Tyson fight he did'nt do bad against champs some thought he beat Mcall i just think he would still catch up with Larry and it is'nt because im pro Tyson

tyson bruno,i think u underrate holmes alot............watch some prime larry holmes fights he shits all over tony tucker ;)

frazier-holmes -frazier ud or late ko

the frazier that beat ali--i think he could beat holmes--frazier would pressure holmes dig into the body and crash some left hooks 2 holmes face. but frazier would eat his jab all night

tyson-holmes--holmes---tyson barely beat quick tillis---how could he then beat a prime holmes?

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Originally Posted by tysonbruno

I think Holmes wins on points against Frazier but i think Tyson still ko's him he were'nt that far gone in there fight in 88 and lets not forget what holmes did after Tyson fight going distance with heavyweight champs Holyfield and Mcall and the mcall one was a juster

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suppose you think tyson would ko everyone? he couldnt even ko tucker and bonecrusher what makes you think he could ko a young dancing larry holmes
.......i think tyson wins decision, but he would only get ko if holmes stoped moving and decided to fight tyson

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there was only 2 ways to fight tyson in his prime,run or fight and holmes would run flicking the jab and a jabs not enough to bother tyson and if tyson and frazier fought well they had simimler styles but tyson was more classyer than frazier,and i think holmes and frazier would be like the ali frazier fights with probaly holmes getting the points decision or possably frazier catching him with a left hook but you could go on forever with who could beat who but great debates these are.

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frazier-holmes -frazier ud or late ko

the frazier that beat ali--i think he could beat holmes--frazier would pressure holmes dig into the body and crash some left hooks 2 holmes face. but frazier would eat his jab all night

tyson-holmes--holmes---tyson barely beat quick tillis---how could he then beat a prime holmes?

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It was clearly stated that Tyson was told to hold back on Quick Tills as he Tyson was nearing a championship fight and the question was could Iron mike go the distance so he just toyed with Tills and you can clearly see Tyson not realy being a animal....that fight was all about going the distance and he answerd the critics on that front then you get the sceptics saying ...aw he aint that good he didnt put him away...Tyson was perfectly harnessed as a youth step by step fight by fight you could see allsorts of apponents of hights size and weight....Mike was knocking them all out too quick the management thought wow what if this guy does have to go the distance and we aint got the answer to that yet but with that Tillis fight they got there answer and to me they purposefully set out to get that answer..Mike hardly went to the body his or one of his most deadly assets.IMO.

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frazier-holmes -frazier ud or late ko

the frazier that beat ali--i think he could beat holmes--frazier would pressure holmes dig into the body and crash some left hooks 2 holmes face. but frazier would eat his jab all night

tyson-holmes--holmes---tyson barely beat quick tillis---how could he then beat a prime holmes?

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It was clearly stated that Tyson was told to hold back on Quick Tills as he Tyson was nearing a championship fight and the question was could Iron mike go the distance so he just toyed with Tills and you can clearly see Tyson not realy being a animal....that fight was all about going the distance and he answerd the critics on that front then you get the sceptics saying ...aw he aint that good he didnt put him away...Tyson was perfectly harnessed as a youth step by step fight by fight you could see allsorts of apponents of hights size and weight....Mike was knocking them all out too quick the management thought wow what if this guy does have to go the distance and we aint got the answer to that yet but with that Tillis fight they got there answer and to me they purposefully set out to get that answer..Mike hardly went to the body his or one of his most deadly assets.IMO.

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held back on tillis i dont believe that for a second since when does mike go easy on anyone ??

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tyson bruno,i think u underrate holmes alot............watch some prime larry holmes fights he shits all over tony tucker ;)

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I know Holmes was good im not denying that but i still think Tyson catches up with him in same way and ko's him Tyson did'nt just beat him he destroyed him knocked him out cold

I think Frazier is a great fighter but, i don't see Frazier beating Larry Holmes. Larry will jab and move his way to victory. Joe got hit too much. As far as Tyson go that is a real hard one too call. When they fought i don't think Larry was that far removed from the fighter he use to be, but he did lose a step. Actually i am not sure i can see it going both ways. I am confused.:confused:

IMO Holmes' reached his peak in the Cooney fight.Everything came into motion that night. I believe that Larry would take both Frazier and Tyson.Constantly moving pumping that beautiful jab and that sharp right hand. You give me the Holmes who fight Spinks I believe both Frazier and Tyson would eat him up.