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03-20-2007, 08:02 PM
Majesty

Re: must watch fight for all PBF doubters and haters.

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Originally Posted by Kel

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Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'

i use that fight because castillo and corrales are too very skilled tough fighters that made great fight. then i think to myself damn PBF outboxed both those guys.

PBF is almost a god when it comes to boxing ability and I respect him for it. Unfortunately for him, he has never had a single fight that will be looked upon as a 'classic' in years to come. I hope he manages it in the ODLH fight, because if anytime is HIS time the ODLH fight is surely it.

You want a "classic" PBF fight?

Look at the Corrales fight, that was as close to perfect as I have ever seen.
03-20-2007, 08:20 PM
Majesty

Re: must watch fight for all PBF doubters and haters.

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

If I am not mistaken, PBF did not do enough to win his first fight versus Castillo.

In the rematch PBF beat Castillo fair and square and Castillo somewhere in the 10th said he could not figure Floyds style out and it was just too much for him. Castillo was totally frustrated.

Diego Corrales IMO I never liked him and I never thought he was all that great.
Totally out classed by PBF. Diego knew he was going to the joint and he aint been the same since then. Overated.

Floyd has not beat anyone else since?

Right?

Let's take a look.

Victoriano Sosa went 12 and was out boxed by Floyd.
Same guy moved up and was destoyed in 4 by Cotto. Not only was Sosa outboxed by Cotto, he was destroyed and ultimately chased back down to 135 one fight later.

Phillip N'dou. Phillip N' WHO? No one knows who this South African is. Has only been knocked out one other time. Was Ko'ed by Floyd in the 7th. Phillip N'dou moved up the ranks fighting complete nobodys a la Kelly Pavlik opponents with terrible records.

DeMarcus Corley. Not the best fighter out there but a good journeyman. He went 12 with Zab and Floyd but was ultimately beatin down in a sometimes seasaw battle against Cotto.
Ref saved Corley from Cotto's wrath and stopped the fight in 5. Too many knees says you aint fighting. You are trying to survive.

Henry Bruseles. No one knows who he is. Was knocked the puck out by PBF in the 8th.

Arturo Gatti. Old past his prime. Was knocked the puck out by ODLH 6 years ago @ 147. Gatti's face is so tender from all the scar tissue, I could throw buttered pop corn at him and hit him in the face which would cause swelling. Knocked out by PBF in the 6th @ 140.
W 40 (31 ko's) | L 8 | D 0 | Total 48 bad record and should retire.

Sharmba Mitchell. Old azz southpaw who was destroyed twice by Kostya Tszyu in 2001 and 2004. Looks like Floyd is bottom feeding from Kostya Tszyu's dumpster.

Zab Judah. Destoyed by Kostya Tszyu in under 2 rounds. Went the distance with Floyd. An ok fight. We knew Zab was not all that and his loss against Carlos Manuel Baldomir was confirmation of that fact. Floyd dumpster diving in Kostya Tszyu's bin again.

Carlos Manuel Baldomir. People in Argentina don't even know who he is.
W 43 (13 ko's) | L 10 | D 6 | Total 59
Old azz soft hitter does not even belong in this sport.
Shows you that when we have people like this holding a title, something is wrong with this division.

So what is your phuking point?

Your point is?

Floyd aint done shiet since he beat Castillo and Corrales and yet he claims he is better than Sugar Ray Robbinson and Sugar Ray Leonard?

HA HA HA HA HA HA!

WHAT A JOKE!

I wont deny he is pretty good but his claims are what ruined it.

He can say he is the greatest fighter to ever step into the ring but I know better.

You can defend Floyd by saying that it is not his fault that there were nothing but bums in those divisions etc ..etc. I agree and I say Floyd was lucky. Circumstances of events fighting old people have made him look better than he is.
I have said this once and I will say it again.
Floyd has yet to fight any Sugar Rays, Haglers, Hearns or Durans. But there are some ok fighters waiting for Floyda and one of them is Cotto. ;D Margarito still want's a piece of the Grand Rapids Chicken. How many undefeated fighters has Floyd beat?

Cotto 4 Life!

Let's compare these fights with Cotto then

Urkal: Kostya Tszyu leftover beaten twice by Vivian Harris and knocked out in one and Cotto couldn't put a dent in him.

Carlos Quintana: Only claim to fame was outboxing the overrated Joel Julio who got dropped and nearly beaten by this fighter called Rivera who Zab Judah(whom you say isn't much of a fighter in the above post) knocked down with the first left hand he threw. So I guess Quintana isn't as good as made out to be but he still gave Cotto issues until the knockout(which I applaud Cotto for)

Paul Malignaggi: Good fighter, big heart, but no power and still won some rounds from Cotto, oh yeah I remember the reasons, Cotto suffered a "boxers injury" and couldn't knock out Malignaggi right? But Cotto could still throw his punches, and yet Mayweather hurts his hand but still throws punches but you accuse him of lying about it cause he was holding a cup. So I guess holding a cup is more painful then throwing and landing a punch right?

Muhammad Abdolaev: Never the same not did he have the same confidence or desire since losing to Emanuel Clottey....by knockout.. so who is he really? His only claim is that he beat Cotto in the amateurs and that means what?

DeMarcus Corley: Zab Judah dropped him, Floyd Mayweather dominated him and then Cotto has trouble, is nearly stopped and then stops Corley on a BS biased ref call who didn't notice any low blow Cotto was throwing that night. You talk about leftovers, well Corley was Zab(who aint much of a fighter to you) and Floyd(who you say has no balls and degrade him every chance you get)'s leftovers and of the three, he had the most trouble with him didn't he? Your fighter Cotto :)

Ricardo Torres: Nobody had ever heard of him*very similar to a Phillip Ndou" who came in with with an inflated record knocking out bums brought in to lose with an inflated record. The difference is that Mayweather stopped Ndou, and Torres came nearly close to stopping Cotto, and when he stepped in against Mike Arnaoutis he got exposed and beaten(Mike was robbed) and showed he wasn't much of anything and yet Cotto had to go life or death against him.

Kelson Pinto: Overrated fighter who's only claim to fame was knocking out bums, dropping out of a Ricky Hatton fight and beating Cotto in the amateurs. If he gets outhustled my emanuel freaking augustus and is breathing hard about to pass out at the end then Cotto is going to smash him. And again, what was Kelson Pinto known for other then beating Cotto in the amateurs? And what had he done to even deserve a shot at that "vacant" world title opportunity???

Randall Bailey: ..... I don't think I need to say anything further

Can you give me a real few names that actually went on to become something after Cotto fought them ??? While Mayweather has Chavez, Castillo, Corrales, and Hernandez on his record. Who does Cotto have? he has Paul Malignaggi who MIGHT become something. But everyone else was either inflated or on their way out the door.

So you can take that with your Mayweather hate :) And you see no accusation more or less legit then yours. But you can defend it with jokes if you want, or by saying stuff like "Thats because Cotto ruined them as fighters they weren't the same like Tito Trinidad" or something like that, thats the only time I'm responding in this way to you, since I know you do it to bait Floyd fans or whichever fans. But I'm talking to you from a fan of someone who watches boxing and looks at the careers not a biased Floyd fan or whatever fan just calling you an idiot and saying you don't know boxing, I'm responding to you in a respectable and debating way, so take that with you :)

And good luck to your friend Miguel Cotto in his next fight :)
03-20-2007, 10:42 PM
Olympian904

Re: must watch fight for all PBF doubters and haters.

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Originally Posted by Majesty

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

If I am not mistaken, PBF did not do enough to win his first fight versus Castillo.

In the rematch PBF beat Castillo fair and square and Castillo somewhere in the 10th said he could not figure Floyds style out and it was just too much for him. Castillo was totally frustrated.

Diego Corrales IMO I never liked him and I never thought he was all that great.
Totally out classed by PBF. Diego knew he was going to the joint and he aint been the same since then. Overated.

Floyd has not beat anyone else since?

Right?

Let's take a look.

Victoriano Sosa went 12 and was out boxed by Floyd.
Same guy moved up and was destoyed in 4 by Cotto. Not only was Sosa outboxed by Cotto, he was destroyed and ultimately chased back down to 135 one fight later.

Phillip N'dou. Phillip N' WHO? No one knows who this South African is. Has only been knocked out one other time. Was Ko'ed by Floyd in the 7th. Phillip N'dou moved up the ranks fighting complete nobodys a la Kelly Pavlik opponents with terrible records.

DeMarcus Corley. Not the best fighter out there but a good journeyman. He went 12 with Zab and Floyd but was ultimately beatin down in a sometimes seasaw battle against Cotto.
Ref saved Corley from Cotto's wrath and stopped the fight in 5. Too many knees says you aint fighting. You are trying to survive.

Henry Bruseles. No one knows who he is. Was knocked the puck out by PBF in the 8th.

Arturo Gatti. Old past his prime. Was knocked the puck out by ODLH 6 years ago @ 147. Gatti's face is so tender from all the scar tissue, I could throw buttered pop corn at him and hit him in the face which would cause swelling. Knocked out by PBF in the 6th @ 140.
W 40 (31 ko's) | L 8 | D 0 | Total 48 bad record and should retire.

Sharmba Mitchell. Old azz southpaw who was destroyed twice by Kostya Tszyu in 2001 and 2004. Looks like Floyd is bottom feeding from Kostya Tszyu's dumpster.

Zab Judah. Destoyed by Kostya Tszyu in under 2 rounds. Went the distance with Floyd. An ok fight. We knew Zab was not all that and his loss against Carlos Manuel Baldomir was confirmation of that fact. Floyd dumpster diving in Kostya Tszyu's bin again.

Carlos Manuel Baldomir. People in Argentina don't even know who he is.
W 43 (13 ko's) | L 10 | D 6 | Total 59
Old azz soft hitter does not even belong in this sport.
Shows you that when we have people like this holding a title, something is wrong with this division.

So what is your phuking point?

Your point is?

Floyd aint done shiet since he beat Castillo and Corrales and yet he claims he is better than Sugar Ray Robbinson and Sugar Ray Leonard?

HA HA HA HA HA HA!

WHAT A JOKE!

I wont deny he is pretty good but his claims are what ruined it.

He can say he is the greatest fighter to ever step into the ring but I know better.

You can defend Floyd by saying that it is not his fault that there were nothing but bums in those divisions etc ..etc. I agree and I say Floyd was lucky. Circumstances of events fighting old people have made him look better than he is.
I have said this once and I will say it again.
Floyd has yet to fight any Sugar Rays, Haglers, Hearns or Durans. But there are some ok fighters waiting for Floyda and one of them is Cotto. ;D Margarito still want's a piece of the Grand Rapids Chicken. How many undefeated fighters has Floyd beat?

Cotto 4 Life!

Let's compare these fights with Cotto then

Urkal: Kostya Tszyu leftover beaten twice by Vivian Harris and knocked out in one and Cotto couldn't put a dent in him.

Carlos Quintana: Only claim to fame was outboxing the overrated Joel Julio who got dropped and nearly beaten by this fighter called Rivera who Zab Judah(whom you say isn't much of a fighter in the above post) knocked down with the first left hand he threw. So I guess Quintana isn't as good as made out to be but he still gave Cotto issues until the knockout(which I applaud Cotto for)

Paul Malignaggi: Good fighter, big heart, but no power and still won some rounds from Cotto, oh yeah I remember the reasons, Cotto suffered a "boxers injury" and couldn't knock out Malignaggi right? But Cotto could still throw his punches, and yet Mayweather hurts his hand but still throws punches but you accuse him of lying about it cause he was holding a cup. So I guess holding a cup is more painful then throwing and landing a punch right?

Muhammad Abdolaev: Never the same not did he have the same confidence or desire since losing to Emanuel Clottey....by knockout.. so who is he really? His only claim is that he beat Cotto in the amateurs and that means what?

DeMarcus Corley: Zab Judah dropped him, Floyd Mayweather dominated him and then Cotto has trouble, is nearly stopped and then stops Corley on a BS biased ref call who didn't notice any low blow Cotto was throwing that night. You talk about leftovers, well Corley was Zab(who aint much of a fighter to you) and Floyd(who you say has no balls and degrade him every chance you get)'s leftovers and of the three, he had the most trouble with him didn't he? Your fighter Cotto :)

Ricardo Torres: Nobody had ever heard of him*very similar to a Phillip Ndou" who came in with with an inflated record knocking out bums brought in to lose with an inflated record. The difference is that Mayweather stopped Ndou, and Torres came nearly close to stopping Cotto, and when he stepped in against Mike Arnaoutis he got exposed and beaten(Mike was robbed) and showed he wasn't much of anything and yet Cotto had to go life or death against him.

Kelson Pinto: Overrated fighter who's only claim to fame was knocking out bums, dropping out of a Ricky Hatton fight and beating Cotto in the amateurs. If he gets outhustled my emanuel freaking augustus and is breathing hard about to pass out at the end then Cotto is going to smash him. And again, what was Kelson Pinto known for other then beating Cotto in the amateurs? And what had he done to even deserve a shot at that "vacant" world title opportunity???

Randall Bailey: ..... I don't think I need to say anything further

Can you give me a real few names that actually went on to become something after Cotto fought them ??? While Mayweather has Chavez, Castillo, Corrales, and Hernandez on his record. Who does Cotto have? he has Paul Malignaggi who MIGHT become something. But everyone else was either inflated or on their way out the door.

So you can take that with your Mayweather hate :) And you see no accusation more or less legit then yours. But you can defend it with jokes if you want, or by saying stuff like "Thats because Cotto ruined them as fighters they weren't the same like Tito Trinidad" or something like that, thats the only time I'm responding in this way to you, since I know you do it to bait Floyd fans or whichever fans. But I'm talking to you from a fan of someone who watches boxing and looks at the careers not a biased Floyd fan or whatever fan just calling you an idiot and saying you don't know boxing, I'm responding to you in a respectable and debating way, so take that with you :)

And good luck to your friend Miguel Cotto in his next fight :)

Nice post....and DannyG you said"Floyd has yet to fight any Sugar Rays, Haglers, Hearns or Durans"and you think Cotto is along the lines of any of those...Spoken like a true larry merchant
03-20-2007, 11:16 PM
p4pking

Re: must watch fight for all PBF doubters and haters.

CC Majesty, but arguing with Danny G about Mayweather is not going to get you anywhere no matter how sound your arguement. Im awaiting the great photoshop rendition Danny G will respond with insinuating your being a baby or nut hugger.. He isn't a boxing fan, I really wouldn't bother.
03-20-2007, 11:46 PM
jbirdy

Re: must watch fight for all PBF doubters and haters.

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Originally Posted by liquid

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Originally Posted by jbirdy

i have the gatti vs mayweather fight on tape and heard plenty of comentary from both hatton and the preacher man. hatton vs tszyu, cotto vs abduliev , mayweather vs gatti and vivian harris vs mauser were all fights at 140 that happened pretty much back to back over a few weeks.
if i recolect correctly with regard to harris vs mauser hatton said something like 'vivian obviously underestimated mauser because of his poor preperation to the fight and he paid the price by getting knocked out' with regard to cotto vs abduliev hatton quoted something like ' with all of the other champions at 140 lb's fighting in the same week this was a real opportuunity for cotto to show case his talent and make a bit of a statement, but instead he showed no real urgency about his work and eventually disposed of abduliev about 4 rounds to late'. hatton then went on to say that if cotto was gonna continue to fight like that then a fight between the two would be right up ricky's street.
hatton was ringside at the gatti vs mayweather bout and was on live feed to ian darke and jim watt and co with sky and his coments were simply that ' mayweather looked awesome, demonstrated every shot in the book and was very fast,' that was pretty much all he said and then billy graham in the studio and the rest comented on how gatti did pretty much everything wrong. like when he turned to complain to the ref about the punches on the back of his head and then mayweather just caught hiim with a left hook when he wasnt looking. also that gatti wasnt throwing anything and was just standing in range with his legs way too far apart and just getting hit.
so there was comentary mr liquid and i very much doubt that hatton or cotto would keep their mouths shut and retract with fear just because they had witnessed that fight.

You know, I read through this twice and I still don't see anything disputing anything I wrote. I'll repeat: after PBF dismantled Gatti you heard nothing from Hatton or Cotto regarding them stepping into the ring with him. And if PBF is such a ducker how come these two managed to avoid one another as well?

well mate i'm disputing it because you are implying that after watching mayweather batter gatti, hatton kept his mouth shut about stepping into the ring with mayweather because he was scared or whatever reason. i'm telling you know that thats bullshit. if you are aware of hatton you will know that he is not a big talker and tends to let his fights speak for themselves. it isnt his way to call out or disrespect fighters and he has also stated many times that he would love to fight mayweather.
03-21-2007, 03:18 AM
SigmaMu

Re: must watch fight for all PBF doubters and haters.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Majesty

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny_G

If I am not mistaken, PBF did not do enough to win his first fight versus Castillo.

In the rematch PBF beat Castillo fair and square and Castillo somewhere in the 10th said he could not figure Floyds style out and it was just too much for him. Castillo was totally frustrated.

Diego Corrales IMO I never liked him and I never thought he was all that great.
Totally out classed by PBF. Diego knew he was going to the joint and he aint been the same since then. Overated.

Floyd has not beat anyone else since?

Right?

Let's take a look.

Victoriano Sosa went 12 and was out boxed by Floyd.
Same guy moved up and was destoyed in 4 by Cotto. Not only was Sosa outboxed by Cotto, he was destroyed and ultimately chased back down to 135 one fight later.

Phillip N'dou. Phillip N' WHO? No one knows who this South African is. Has only been knocked out one other time. Was Ko'ed by Floyd in the 7th. Phillip N'dou moved up the ranks fighting complete nobodys a la Kelly Pavlik opponents with terrible records.

DeMarcus Corley. Not the best fighter out there but a good journeyman. He went 12 with Zab and Floyd but was ultimately beatin down in a sometimes seasaw battle against Cotto.
Ref saved Corley from Cotto's wrath and stopped the fight in 5. Too many knees says you aint fighting. You are trying to survive.

Henry Bruseles. No one knows who he is. Was knocked the puck out by PBF in the 8th.

Arturo Gatti. Old past his prime. Was knocked the puck out by ODLH 6 years ago @ 147. Gatti's face is so tender from all the scar tissue, I could throw buttered pop corn at him and hit him in the face which would cause swelling. Knocked out by PBF in the 6th @ 140.
W 40 (31 ko's) | L 8 | D 0 | Total 48 bad record and should retire.

Sharmba Mitchell. Old azz southpaw who was destroyed twice by Kostya Tszyu in 2001 and 2004. Looks like Floyd is bottom feeding from Kostya Tszyu's dumpster.

Zab Judah. Destoyed by Kostya Tszyu in under 2 rounds. Went the distance with Floyd. An ok fight. We knew Zab was not all that and his loss against Carlos Manuel Baldomir was confirmation of that fact. Floyd dumpster diving in Kostya Tszyu's bin again.

Carlos Manuel Baldomir. People in Argentina don't even know who he is.
W 43 (13 ko's) | L 10 | D 6 | Total 59
Old azz soft hitter does not even belong in this sport.
Shows you that when we have people like this holding a title, something is wrong with this division.

So what is your phuking point?

Your point is?

Floyd aint done shiet since he beat Castillo and Corrales and yet he claims he is better than Sugar Ray Robbinson and Sugar Ray Leonard?

HA HA HA HA HA HA!

WHAT A JOKE!

I wont deny he is pretty good but his claims are what ruined it.

He can say he is the greatest fighter to ever step into the ring but I know better.

You can defend Floyd by saying that it is not his fault that there were nothing but bums in those divisions etc ..etc. I agree and I say Floyd was lucky. Circumstances of events fighting old people have made him look better than he is.
I have said this once and I will say it again.
Floyd has yet to fight any Sugar Rays, Haglers, Hearns or Durans. But there are some ok fighters waiting for Floyda and one of them is Cotto. ;D Margarito still want's a piece of the Grand Rapids Chicken. How many undefeated fighters has Floyd beat?

Cotto 4 Life!

Let's compare these fights with Cotto then

Urkal: Kostya Tszyu leftover beaten twice by Vivian Harris and knocked out in one and Cotto couldn't put a dent in him.

Carlos Quintana: Only claim to fame was outboxing the overrated Joel Julio who got dropped and nearly beaten by this fighter called Rivera who Zab Judah(whom you say isn't much of a fighter in the above post) knocked down with the first left hand he threw. So I guess Quintana isn't as good as made out to be but he still gave Cotto issues until the knockout(which I applaud Cotto for)

Paul Malignaggi: Good fighter, big heart, but no power and still won some rounds from Cotto, oh yeah I remember the reasons, Cotto suffered a "boxers injury" and couldn't knock out Malignaggi right? But Cotto could still throw his punches, and yet Mayweather hurts his hand but still throws punches but you accuse him of lying about it cause he was holding a cup. So I guess holding a cup is more painful then throwing and landing a punch right?

Muhammad Abdolaev: Never the same not did he have the same confidence or desire since losing to Emanuel Clottey....by knockout.. so who is he really? His only claim is that he beat Cotto in the amateurs and that means what?

DeMarcus Corley: Zab Judah dropped him, Floyd Mayweather dominated him and then Cotto has trouble, is nearly stopped and then stops Corley on a BS biased ref call who didn't notice any low blow Cotto was throwing that night. You talk about leftovers, well Corley was Zab(who aint much of a fighter to you) and Floyd(who you say has no balls and degrade him every chance you get)'s leftovers and of the three, he had the most trouble with him didn't he? Your fighter Cotto :)

Ricardo Torres: Nobody had ever heard of him*very similar to a Phillip Ndou" who came in with with an inflated record knocking out bums brought in to lose with an inflated record. The difference is that Mayweather stopped Ndou, and Torres came nearly close to stopping Cotto, and when he stepped in against Mike Arnaoutis he got exposed and beaten(Mike was robbed) and showed he wasn't much of anything and yet Cotto had to go life or death against him.

Kelson Pinto: Overrated fighter who's only claim to fame was knocking out bums, dropping out of a Ricky Hatton fight and beating Cotto in the amateurs. If he gets outhustled my emanuel freaking augustus and is breathing hard about to pass out at the end then Cotto is going to smash him. And again, what was Kelson Pinto known for other then beating Cotto in the amateurs? And what had he done to even deserve a shot at that "vacant" world title opportunity???

Randall Bailey: ..... I don't think I need to say anything further

Can you give me a real few names that actually went on to become something after Cotto fought them ??? While Mayweather has Chavez, Castillo, Corrales, and Hernandez on his record. Who does Cotto have? he has Paul Malignaggi who MIGHT become something. But everyone else was either inflated or on their way out the door.

So you can take that with your Mayweather hate :) And you see no accusation more or less legit then yours. But you can defend it with jokes if you want, or by saying stuff like "Thats because Cotto ruined them as fighters they weren't the same like Tito Trinidad" or something like that, thats the only time I'm responding in this way to you, since I know you do it to bait Floyd fans or whichever fans. But I'm talking to you from a fan of someone who watches boxing and looks at the careers not a biased Floyd fan or whatever fan just calling you an idiot and saying you don't know boxing, I'm responding to you in a respectable and debating way, so take that with you :)

And good luck to your friend Miguel Cotto in his next fight :)

Excuse me?

Cotto is only 26

Floyd at 26 had his first fight with Diego Corrales.

Cotto's time is coming...
03-21-2007, 03:27 AM
diamonddavestafford

Re: must watch fight for all PBF doubters and haters.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny_G

If I am not mistaken, PBF did not do enough to win his first fight versus Castillo.

In the rematch PBF beat Castillo fair and square and Castillo somewhere in the 10th said he could not figure Floyds style out and it was just too much for him. Castillo was totally frustrated.

Diego Corrales IMO I never liked him and I never thought he was all that great.
Totally out classed by PBF. Diego knew he was going to the joint and he aint been the same since then. Overated.

Floyd has not beat anyone else since?

Right?

Let's take a look.

Victoriano Sosa went 12 and was out boxed by Floyd.
Same guy moved up and was destoyed in 4 by Cotto. Not only was Sosa outboxed by Cotto, he was destroyed and ultimately chased back down to 135 one fight later.

Phillip N'dou. Phillip N' WHO? No one knows who this South African is. Has only been knocked out one other time. Was Ko'ed by Floyd in the 7th. Phillip N'dou moved up the ranks fighting complete nobodys a la Kelly Pavlik opponents with terrible records.

DeMarcus Corley. Not the best fighter out there but a good journeyman. He went 12 with Zab and Floyd but was ultimately beatin down in a sometimes seasaw battle against Cotto.
Ref saved Corley from Cotto's wrath and stopped the fight in 5. Too many knees says you aint fighting. You are trying to survive.

Henry Bruseles. No one knows who he is. Was knocked the puck out by PBF in the 8th.

Arturo Gatti. Old past his prime. Was knocked the puck out by ODLH 6 years ago @ 147. Gatti's face is so tender from all the scar tissue, I could throw buttered pop corn at him and hit him in the face which would cause swelling. Knocked out by PBF in the 6th @ 140.
W 40 (31 ko's) | L 8 | D 0 | Total 48 bad record and should retire.

Sharmba Mitchell. Old azz southpaw who was destroyed twice by Kostya Tszyu in 2001 and 2004. Looks like Floyd is bottom feeding from Kostya Tszyu's dumpster.

Zab Judah. Destoyed by Kostya Tszyu in under 2 rounds. Went the distance with Floyd. An ok fight. We knew Zab was not all that and his loss against Carlos Manuel Baldomir was confirmation of that fact. Floyd dumpster diving in Kostya Tszyu's bin again.

Carlos Manuel Baldomir. People in Argentina don't even know who he is.
W 43 (13 ko's) | L 10 | D 6 | Total 59
Old azz soft hitter does not even belong in this sport.
Shows you that when we have people like this holding a title, something is wrong with this division.

So what is your phuking point?

Your point is?

Floyd aint done shiet since he beat Castillo and Corrales and yet he claims he is better than Sugar Ray Robbinson and Sugar Ray Leonard?

HA HA HA HA HA HA!

WHAT A JOKE!

I wont deny he is pretty good but his claims are what ruined it.

He can say he is the greatest fighter to ever step into the ring but I know better.

You can defend Floyd by saying that it is not his fault that there were nothing but bums in those divisions etc ..etc. I agree and I say Floyd was lucky. Circumstances of events fighting old people have made him look better than he is.
I have said this once and I will say it again.
Floyd has yet to fight any Sugar Rays, Haglers, Hearns or Durans. But there are some ok fighters waiting for Floyda and one of them is Cotto. ;D Margarito still want's a piece of the Grand Rapids Chicken. How many undefeated fighters has Floyd beat?

Cotto 4 Life!

Take me Baby i'm yrs .... :-* :-* :-*

floyd might well be up there with the very best he has all the tools but his constant bad mouthing and crap opposition is a real turn off !!

I like watching him honestly but his fights are forgone conclusions before he gets in the ring !!

He's by passed alot of fighters , he should have fought , Casamayor , Hatton,Cotto and Magarito and paid his dues at Lightwelter and Welter instead of fighting utterly washed up figthers .

As for Corrales ? That was 6 or 7 years ago and Diego was completely fucked at the weight

I'd have fancied him in all these fights but he is taking the safety 1st less than sceneic route and thats something Sugar Ray and Roberto Duran never did .... and thats the tooooooth baby.

I know that Floyd is good but come on nearly all the fighters he fought were coming off losses ?

True ?

I dont think Mayweather is as good as Leonard or Robinson but he is definitely better than Cotto. I am looking forward to seeing how Miguel deals with Zab Judah this summer, seeing as that fight goes as scheduled. I think Zab will beat him.
03-21-2007, 05:13 AM
The Boxer

Re: must watch fight for all PBF doubters and haters.

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'

why don't all you PBF haters go and see if you can download corrales castillo I. this is on of the best fights to happen in recent memory and PBF beat both of them. watch that fight and then talk to me about PBF.

when your done watching kimbo slice on youtube do a search for a real fight.

Thats like saying watch the Gatti-Ward trilogy and giving Ivan Robinson and Tony Martin props....Styles make fights

Umm no it's not. but nice try though.

gatti and ward are the definition of exciting but average fighters. thats whay i never got why after the PBF gatti fight why people decided to hop on the bandwagon. PBF beating gatti was a given.
03-21-2007, 05:18 AM
The Boxer

Re: must watch fight for all PBF doubters and haters.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny_G

If I am not mistaken, PBF did not do enough to win his first fight versus Castillo.

In the rematch PBF beat Castillo fair and square and Castillo somewhere in the 10th said he could not figure Floyds style out and it was just too much for him. Castillo was totally frustrated.

Diego Corrales IMO I never liked him and I never thought he was all that great.
Totally out classed by PBF. Diego knew he was going to the joint and he aint been the same since then. Overated.

Floyd has not beat anyone else since?

Right?

Let's take a look.

Victoriano Sosa went 12 and was out boxed by Floyd.
Same guy moved up and was destoyed in 4 by Cotto. Not only was Sosa outboxed by Cotto, he was destroyed and ultimately chased back down to 135 one fight later.

Phillip N'dou. Phillip N' WHO? No one knows who this South African is. Has only been knocked out one other time. Was Ko'ed by Floyd in the 7th. Phillip N'dou moved up the ranks fighting complete nobodys a la Kelly Pavlik opponents with terrible records.

DeMarcus Corley. Not the best fighter out there but a good journeyman. He went 12 with Zab and Floyd but was ultimately beatin down in a sometimes seasaw battle against Cotto.
Ref saved Corley from Cotto's wrath and stopped the fight in 5. Too many knees says you aint fighting. You are trying to survive.

Henry Bruseles. No one knows who he is. Was knocked the puck out by PBF in the 8th.

Arturo Gatti. Old past his prime. Was knocked the puck out by ODLH 6 years ago @ 147. Gatti's face is so tender from all the scar tissue, I could throw buttered pop corn at him and hit him in the face which would cause swelling. Knocked out by PBF in the 6th @ 140.
W 40 (31 ko's) | L 8 | D 0 | Total 48 bad record and should retire.

Sharmba Mitchell. Old azz southpaw who was destroyed twice by Kostya Tszyu in 2001 and 2004. Looks like Floyd is bottom feeding from Kostya Tszyu's dumpster.

Zab Judah. Destoyed by Kostya Tszyu in under 2 rounds. Went the distance with Floyd. An ok fight. We knew Zab was not all that and his loss against Carlos Manuel Baldomir was confirmation of that fact. Floyd dumpster diving in Kostya Tszyu's bin again.

Carlos Manuel Baldomir. People in Argentina don't even know who he is.
W 43 (13 ko's) | L 10 | D 6 | Total 59
Old azz soft hitter does not even belong in this sport.
Shows you that when we have people like this holding a title, something is wrong with this division.

So what is your phuking point?

Your point is?

Floyd aint done shiet since he beat Castillo and Corrales and yet he claims he is better than Sugar Ray Robbinson and Sugar Ray Leonard?

HA HA HA HA HA HA!

WHAT A JOKE!

I wont deny he is pretty good but his claims are what ruined it.

He can say he is the greatest fighter to ever step into the ring but I know better.

You can defend Floyd by saying that it is not his fault that there were nothing but bums in those divisions etc ..etc. I agree and I say Floyd was lucky. Circumstances of events fighting old people have made him look better than he is.
I have said this once and I will say it again.
Floyd has yet to fight any Sugar Rays, Haglers, Hearns or Durans. But there are some ok fighters waiting for Floyda and one of them is Cotto. ;D Margarito still want's a piece of the Grand Rapids Chicken. How many undefeated fighters has Floyd beat?

Cotto 4 Life!

you are mistaken PBF got desicion against castillo. pay more attention.
03-21-2007, 05:23 AM
The Boxer

Re: must watch fight for all PBF doubters and haters.

PBF was younger than 26 when he fought corrales
03-21-2007, 06:16 AM
SweetPea

Re: must watch fight for all PBF doubters and haters.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny_G

Excuse me?

Cotto is only 26

Floyd at 26 had his first fight with Diego Corrales.

Cotto's time is coming...

Mayweather was 23 when he fought Corrales.
03-21-2007, 06:21 AM
The Boxer

Re: must watch fight for all PBF doubters and haters.

thank you. these cotto fans are getting out of hand.
03-21-2007, 06:55 AM
Swashbuckling Gordy

Re: must watch fight for all PBF doubters and haters.

Mayweather hasn't fought a good fighter at Lightwelter or Welter and now the jump to Lightmiddle ?

I think what a lot of people are saying is Floyd has managed his career a little too much .

The fights with Hatton , Magarito and Cotto should have happened .

Id fancy FLoyd Heavily in all but has he backed up his big words ?

Judah ,Gatti ,Baldomir , Mittchell ,Corley and Bailey were all washed up .

Hernadez and Corrales was at superfeather , Castillio was at lightweight .

Has Mayweather fought a hot puncher above these weights ?
03-21-2007, 08:11 AM
The Boxer

Re: must watch fight for all PBF doubters and haters.

corely wasn't washed up when he damn there knocked cottos block off
03-22-2007, 07:37 PM
the phenom

Re: must watch fight for all PBF doubters and haters.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny_G

If I am not mistaken, PBF did not do enough to win his first fight versus Castillo.

In the rematch PBF beat Castillo fair and square and Castillo somewhere in the 10th said he could not figure Floyds style out and it was just too much for him. Castillo was totally frustrated.

Diego Corrales IMO I never liked him and I never thought he was all that great.
Totally out classed by PBF. Diego knew he was going to the joint and he aint been the same since then. Overated.

Floyd has not beat anyone else since?

Right?

Let's take a look.

Victoriano Sosa went 12 and was out boxed by Floyd.
Same guy moved up and was destoyed in 4 by Cotto. Not only was Sosa outboxed by Cotto, he was destroyed and ultimately chased back down to 135 one fight later.

Phillip N'dou. Phillip N' WHO? No one knows who this South African is. Has only been knocked out one other time. Was Ko'ed by Floyd in the 7th. Phillip N'dou moved up the ranks fighting complete nobodys a la Kelly Pavlik opponents with terrible records.

DeMarcus Corley. Not the best fighter out there but a good journeyman. He went 12 with Zab and Floyd but was ultimately beatin down in a sometimes seasaw battle against Cotto.
Ref saved Corley from Cotto's wrath and stopped the fight in 5. Too many knees says you aint fighting. You are trying to survive.

Henry Bruseles. No one knows who he is. Was knocked the puck out by PBF in the 8th.

Arturo Gatti. Old past his prime. Was knocked the puck out by ODLH 6 years ago @ 147. Gatti's face is so tender from all the scar tissue, I could throw buttered pop corn at him and hit him in the face which would cause swelling. Knocked out by PBF in the 6th @ 140.
W 40 (31 ko's) | L 8 | D 0 | Total 48 bad record and should retire.

Sharmba Mitchell. Old azz southpaw who was destroyed twice by Kostya Tszyu in 2001 and 2004. Looks like Floyd is bottom feeding from Kostya Tszyu's dumpster.

Zab Judah. Destoyed by Kostya Tszyu in under 2 rounds. Went the distance with Floyd. An ok fight. We knew Zab was not all that and his loss against Carlos Manuel Baldomir was confirmation of that fact. Floyd dumpster diving in Kostya Tszyu's bin again.

Carlos Manuel Baldomir. People in Argentina don't even know who he is.
W 43 (13 ko's) | L 10 | D 6 | Total 59
Old azz soft hitter does not even belong in this sport.
Shows you that when we have people like this holding a title, something is wrong with this division.

So what is your phuking point?

Your point is?

Floyd aint done shiet since he beat Castillo and Corrales and yet he claims he is better than Sugar Ray Robbinson and Sugar Ray Leonard?

HA HA HA HA HA HA!

WHAT A JOKE!

I wont deny he is pretty good but his claims are what ruined it.

He can say he is the greatest fighter to ever step into the ring but I know better.

You can defend Floyd by saying that it is not his fault that there were nothing but bums in those divisions etc ..etc. I agree and I say Floyd was lucky. Circumstances of events fighting old people have made him look better than he is.
I have said this once and I will say it again.
Floyd has yet to fight any Sugar Rays, Haglers, Hearns or Durans. But there are some ok fighters waiting for Floyda and one of them is Cotto. ;D Margarito still want's a piece of the Grand Rapids Chicken. How many undefeated fighters has Floyd beat?

Cotto 4 Life!

u did good until u said cotto for life .... how bout we see ur man cotto fight floyd and see how bad mayweather really is

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