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wasn't that what Bika was for? Joe is almost done with his career. If you assume (as I do)Quote:
Originally Posted by Smashup
that Taylor and Hopkins would find it pointless to fight him, then what is left for him to do?
Beat up heavy underdogs? I don't want to pay for that, even if you beats them up really bad.
Is that why you watch Joe Calzaghe or any fighter to see somebody get beaten up ?
Then your not a boxing fan .
Who are you talking to?Quote:
Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy
Getting back on track....
Does anyone think Mikkel v Joe will ever happen?
Kessler and Froch are slowly backing him into a corner with their respective O's.
Will Calzaghe move up a weight?
I think Froch fights Kessler, Calzaghe fights Taylor and convinces himself (or has Frank do it for him) that it is the biggest fight the world has ever seen.
I think Kessler v Froch will happen sooner than Kessler v Calzaghe too ;)
Agreed, I don't think Calzaghe's handlers want anything to do with Kessler, for whatever reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smashup
Could be lack of popularity, could be they think he has a chance of losing, but for whatever the reason, I seriously can't see it happening in the near future.
In the meantime, Kessler would do best for himself going after the undefeated Super Middles one at a time
Froch, Bute, Inkin, Mendy, Hanshaw, Pascal.
Kesslers mob (Mogens Palle) and Calzaghes mob (FW) have been in talks to make the fight for the past couple of years. One of the biggest blockers is obviously the HOME ADVANTAGE both want...
The BIGGER the fight gets, the more MONEY involved, the more chance of it happening. Especially with them BOTH now fighting on HBO!!!
You are probably right, I guess the only way to solve this is to have the fight in sunny Arizona!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Neutral ground and within driving distance for me, CutmeMick and Violent Demise!!
Thats the problem. Anywhere outside the UK or Denmark all you have turning-up is one man and his dog. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
But it would be me and my dog ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Seriously though, they have both been on HBO now which in my estimation makes a credible statement for a good draw on neutral ground.
After making his last offer for a fight in Denmark, Palle directly and repeatedly ASKED Warren to make them an offer for a UK fight. He did so both directly (Palle's claim), on his own web-site and through the press (the later two are verifiable).Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Warren refused to make ANY such offer - Not even a poor one (probably knew Palle would go public with any offer considered ridiculously small - and let the public decide whether they found it fair - so better to just not make any).
All this talk that Kessler won't fight away from home is being fabricated by the Calzaghe camp/fans. What Palle has NOT done is make an offer for a UK fight - but that's hardly surpricing since promoting fights in the UK is not his business - but Warren's.
Palle's standpoint is, if Warren wants a UK fight, Warren's gotta make an offer - and since there's been no offer, he concludes that Warren doesn't wan't the fight under any circumstance.
I'm not saying Palle is an easy man to deal with. He's not gonna bend over backwards to accomodate Warren's every wish. Being WBA/WBC unified champ it's not like Kessler isn't bringing anything to the table. Kessler knows taking on Calzaghe (especially in the UK) is a big risk. He's obviously not gonna do it for nothing. With this latest HBO appearence he's also BEGINNING to make a name for himself in the US. In fact by now i doubt all that many americans cares a whole lot more about Calzaghe than they do about Kessler.
So what i'd like to know, is how much exactly would Warren be prepared to offer Kessler for a UK fight (and under what terms). So far the answer appears to be a big round zero - probably with the added bonus that Warren would want options for the next hundred Kessler fights, should Mikkel win.
With HBO working for the fight, the odds of it ever being made has gone up a bit. - from about 2% likelyhood to about 4% likelyhood in my opinion.
In other words - IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
I see where your coming from with this BUT if we've managed to get Duran-SRL, Gomez-Sanchez, Lewis-Tyson, ODLH-Tito we can most def. get Kess-Joe......Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
And think ODLH-Tito came off from King & Arum...
If the fight doesn't happen in the end us the fans get the short end of stick..
>:mad
Very good thinking Killersheep... I like your view of this.... 8)Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
I honestly do think it will happen; is aid in another thread calzaghe will take kessler next if he can't get taylor or the winner of hopkins v wright.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smashup
Really looking at this outside of the box, untill calzaghe actualy opted to fight manfredo rather than kessler kessler was just another unproven european fighter; honestly if calzaghe had taken kessler after lacy or bika right away without any fuss and won, pretty much everyone outside of denmark who was a big calzaghe fan would of branded Kessler another unproven european over hyped wanna be, in short another mario Viet - Looked what happend to lacy after calzaghe was done with him! kessler would of gotten more stick had calzaghe beaten him then!
Kessler put on one hell of a show last weekend, and now there is no reason why he should not be one of the top 3 names calzaghe should fight next - i still would prefer taylor in the sense alot have him ranked at #4 P4P beat hopkins twice and is a big big name in the states, a chance for calzaghe to headline a major Us fight in the states killing 2 birds with one stone!
I do think tho, that calzaghe v kessler would be the biggest fight at SMW since RJJ and toney - they don't have the following world wide like thos 2 did, but for the hardcore fans this could be as a big if not nbigger in temrs of the outcome than the jones jr v toney fight.
it would be a crime for this fight to never happen. both undefeated, both holding 2 titles (dont think joe's relinquishing the IBF strap now). should have already happened and i always read about kessler mentioning calzaghe but hardly hear anything coming from joe regarding kessler. either he is not on his radar or he doesnt want to know. i would still put money on JC.