Re: Who are the best boxing fans in the world?
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
As far as I'm aware American fans don't travel much at all, Mexicans probably can't afford
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Wha... Whe....... Bu...... Uummmm!!!
We have money we just use it all up in buying $4,000 dll. rims for our 1999 Honda Accords.... ;D
Well I will say this, do you think Hatton would also draw the same amount of people if he were to fight in Mexico?
I mean I'm sure like any other ethnicitys the BIG supporters will travel and make the trip but for the most part it wouldn't be the same compared to him fighting in Manchester....
Check who holds the record for a boxing match as far as attandence.
Not Ali, Not ODLH, Not SRR, Not Tyson, Not Lennox......
JCC when he fought Haugen at 'Estadio Azteca' in Mexico City 132,247.
Ali vs. Foreman was 60,000 about half of that....
Mexicans don't travel cause their not hardcore fans, IMO we are the best fans around. Some don't travel for financial reasons and legal status in the States but if the fight is here in the states you can rest assured were traveling....
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
As far as I'm aware American fans don't travel much at all, Mexicans probably can't afford to and most of the other nations are pretty much indifferent to boxing.
What do you guys think, who has the best fans?
I think this statement is pretty far off. How do you think fighters like Barrera and Morales have managed to sell out arenas in Las Vegas for years (Barrera-Marquez being the exception)?
It's not because of Americans, it's because of thousands of Mexicans driving/flying up from Mexico City, Tijuana, and all points in between.
Listening to the crowd during the Hamed-Barrera fight, judging by the noise, there seemed to be just as many, and probably more Barrera fans than UK Hamed fans. Or maybe it just seemed that way since Barrera was the one doing all the punching.
Julio Cesar Chavez drew 130,000 for his fight against Haugen, and 65,000 for his fight with Whitaker.
I would argue that Mexicans are the most loyal and dedicated fans that the sport of boxing has. And I'm not Mexican, so I'm not saying this because of any personal preference.
Well said SweetPea.....
Re: Who are the best boxing fans in the world?
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
As far as I'm aware American fans don't travel much at all, Mexicans probably can't afford
:(
Wha... Whe....... Bu...... Uummmm!!!
We have money we just use it all up in buying $4,000 dll. rims for our 1999 Honda Accords.... ;D
Well I will say this, do you think Hatton would also draw the same amount of people if he were to fight in Mexico?
I mean I'm sure like any other ethnicitys the BIG supporters will travel and make the trip but for the most part it wouldn't be the same compared to him fighting in Manchester....
Check who holds the record for a boxing match as far as attandence.
Not Ali, Not ODLH, Not SRR, Not Tyson, Not Lennox......
JCC when he fought Haugen at 'Estadio Azteca' in Mexico City 132,247.
Ali vs. Foreman was 60,000 about half of that....
Mexicans don't travel cause their not hardcore fans, IMO we are the best fans around. Some don't travel for financial reasons and legal status in the States but if the fight is here in the states you can rest assured were traveling....
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
As far as I'm aware American fans don't travel much at all, Mexicans probably can't afford to and most of the other nations are pretty much indifferent to boxing.
What do you guys think, who has the best fans?
I think this statement is pretty far off. How do you think fighters like Barrera and Morales have managed to sell out arenas in Las Vegas for years (Barrera-Marquez being the exception)?
It's not because of Americans, it's because of thousands of Mexicans driving/flying up from Mexico City, Tijuana, and all points in between.
Listening to the crowd during the Hamed-Barrera fight, judging by the noise, there seemed to be just as many, and probably more Barrera fans than UK Hamed fans. Or maybe it just seemed that way since Barrera was the one doing all the punching.
Julio Cesar Chavez drew 130,000 for his fight against Haugen, and 65,000 for his fight with Whitaker.
I would argue that Mexicans are the most loyal and dedicated fans that the sport of boxing has. And I'm not Mexican, so I'm not saying this because of any personal preference.
Well said SweetPea.....
Hey CutMeMick. I wasn't trying to offend by saying Mexicans couldn't afford to. Just as a second world country whose fighters are always portrayed by HBO at least as coming out of abject poverty and living on dirt floors I figured the average Mexican probably can't afford a television let alone tickets to Vegas?
Is that not the case? I know some like yourself are doing very well but I thought the country itself was pretty poor?
Anyways 130,000+ for a fight is absolutely insane!
Thanks to everyone who took part in my survey, coolclicks to all :)
Re: Who are the best boxing fans in the world?
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
Thanks to everyone who took part in my survey, coolclicks to all :)
Heres CC#711 on me Bilbo....
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
Hey CutMeMick. I wasn't trying to offend by saying Mexicans couldn't afford to.
Not offended at all mate!!
I even made the joke that we couldn't afford to cause we waisted our money buying expensive rims for our 1999 Hondas.... ;D
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
Just as a second world country whose fighters are always portrayed by HBO at least as coming out of abject poverty and living on dirt floors I figured the average Mexican probably can't afford a television let alone tickets to Vegas?
Well like any other country Mexico has it's bad parts about it most def. theres states in Mexico where electricity don't even run to them, they have no idea how a TV, phone work.... But thats not just Mexico theres families here the states like that and I can't say this for sure but I'm pretty sure theres families like this in UK, or Am I wrong? I'm asking cause I don't know for sure to me in the words of Eddie Izzard: "We all live in castles, we are up to here with fwocken castles. We'd long for a bungalow or something" :lolhaha: Eddie what a funny bloke he is... ;D
Anywho!!
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
Is that not the case? I know some like yourself are doing very well but I thought the country itself was pretty poor?
Yeah that is the case. Well I'm doing OK I can't complaint much but I do work ass off for everything I have and I'm very thankful for every oppourtunity I get....
You know something the avg. pay rate/wage in Mexico for a pretty decent job is about $4.40 dlls. a day this is a decent job but you theres countries that are worst out there.... But thats getting into World Politics so let's just drop all that and get into boxing....
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
Anyways 130,000+ for a fight is absolutely insane!
Yeah! thats insane man!
I'm sure you have the fight JCC vs. Haugen throw it on and watch it....
Gives me goose bumps everytime I watch it....
As always Bilbo good chats with 'ya man, always enjoy them.... :)
Re: Who are the best boxing fans in the world?
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
As far as I'm aware American fans don't travel much at all, Mexicans probably can't afford
:(
Wha... Whe....... Bu...... Uummmm!!!
We have money we just use it all up in buying $4,000 dll. rims for our 1999 Honda Accords.... ;D
Well I will say this, do you think Hatton would also draw the same amount of people if he were to fight in Mexico?
I mean I'm sure like any other ethnicitys the BIG supporters will travel and make the trip but for the most part it wouldn't be the same compared to him fighting in Manchester....
Check who holds the record for a boxing match as far as attandence.
Not Ali, Not ODLH, Not SRR, Not Tyson, Not Lennox......
JCC when he fought Haugen at 'Estadio Azteca' in Mexico City 132,247.
Ali vs. Foreman was 60,000 about half of that....
Mexicans don't travel cause their not hardcore fans, IMO we are the best fans around. Some don't travel for financial reasons and legal status in the States but if the fight is here in the states you can rest assured were traveling....
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
As far as I'm aware American fans don't travel much at all, Mexicans probably can't afford to and most of the other nations are pretty much indifferent to boxing.
What do you guys think, who has the best fans?
I think this statement is pretty far off. How do you think fighters like Barrera and Morales have managed to sell out arenas in Las Vegas for years (Barrera-Marquez being the exception)?
It's not because of Americans, it's because of thousands of Mexicans driving/flying up from Mexico City, Tijuana, and all points in between.
Listening to the crowd during the Hamed-Barrera fight, judging by the noise, there seemed to be just as many, and probably more Barrera fans than UK Hamed fans. Or maybe it just seemed that way since Barrera was the one doing all the punching.
Julio Cesar Chavez drew 130,000 for his fight against Haugen, and 65,000 for his fight with Whitaker.
I would argue that Mexicans are the most loyal and dedicated fans that the sport of boxing has. And I'm not Mexican, so I'm not saying this because of any personal preference.
Well said SweetPea.....
Dempsey v Tunney,Phillidelphia stadium...150,000 :o
Fans paid around £530,000 collectively (Put that into todays terms...Serious gate reciepts!!!
Re: Who are the best boxing fans in the world?
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Originally Posted by Smashup
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
As far as I'm aware American fans don't travel much at all, Mexicans probably can't afford
:(
Wha... Whe....... Bu...... Uummmm!!!
We have money we just use it all up in buying $4,000 dll. rims for our 1999 Honda Accords.... ;D
Well I will say this, do you think Hatton would also draw the same amount of people if he were to fight in Mexico?
I mean I'm sure like any other ethnicitys the BIG supporters will travel and make the trip but for the most part it wouldn't be the same compared to him fighting in Manchester....
Check who holds the record for a boxing match as far as attandence.
Not Ali, Not ODLH, Not SRR, Not Tyson, Not Lennox......
JCC when he fought Haugen at 'Estadio Azteca' in Mexico City 132,247.
Ali vs. Foreman was 60,000 about half of that....
Mexicans don't travel cause their not hardcore fans, IMO we are the best fans around. Some don't travel for financial reasons and legal status in the States but if the fight is here in the states you can rest assured were traveling....
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
As far as I'm aware American fans don't travel much at all, Mexicans probably can't afford to and most of the other nations are pretty much indifferent to boxing.
What do you guys think, who has the best fans?
I think this statement is pretty far off. How do you think fighters like Barrera and Morales have managed to sell out arenas in Las Vegas for years (Barrera-Marquez being the exception)?
It's not because of Americans, it's because of thousands of Mexicans driving/flying up from Mexico City, Tijuana, and all points in between.
Listening to the crowd during the Hamed-Barrera fight, judging by the noise, there seemed to be just as many, and probably more Barrera fans than UK Hamed fans. Or maybe it just seemed that way since Barrera was the one doing all the punching.
Julio Cesar Chavez drew 130,000 for his fight against Haugen, and 65,000 for his fight with Whitaker.
I would argue that Mexicans are the most loyal and dedicated fans that the sport of boxing has. And I'm not Mexican, so I'm not saying this because of any personal preference.
Well said SweetPea.....
Dempsey v Tunney,Phillidelphia stadium...150,000 :o
Fans paid around £530,000 collectively (Put that into todays terms...Serious gate reciepts!!!
Dempsey Tunney was 120,557
Re: Who are the best boxing fans in the world?
Not according to the press at the time it wasn't ;)
I think that there was one fight at soldier field in Chicago that even eclipsed that :o
Re: Who are the best boxing fans in the world?
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by Smashup
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
As far as I'm aware American fans don't travel much at all, Mexicans probably can't afford
:(
Wha... Whe....... Bu...... Uummmm!!!
We have money we just use it all up in buying $4,000 dll. rims for our 1999 Honda Accords.... ;D
Well I will say this, do you think Hatton would also draw the same amount of people if he were to fight in Mexico?
I mean I'm sure like any other ethnicitys the BIG supporters will travel and make the trip but for the most part it wouldn't be the same compared to him fighting in Manchester....
Check who holds the record for a boxing match as far as attandence.
Not Ali, Not ODLH, Not SRR, Not Tyson, Not Lennox......
JCC when he fought Haugen at 'Estadio Azteca' in Mexico City 132,247.
Ali vs. Foreman was 60,000 about half of that....
Mexicans don't travel cause their not hardcore fans, IMO we are the best fans around. Some don't travel for financial reasons and legal status in the States but if the fight is here in the states you can rest assured were traveling....
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
As far as I'm aware American fans don't travel much at all, Mexicans probably can't afford to and most of the other nations are pretty much indifferent to boxing.
What do you guys think, who has the best fans?
I think this statement is pretty far off. How do you think fighters like Barrera and Morales have managed to sell out arenas in Las Vegas for years (Barrera-Marquez being the exception)?
It's not because of Americans, it's because of thousands of Mexicans driving/flying up from Mexico City, Tijuana, and all points in between.
Listening to the crowd during the Hamed-Barrera fight, judging by the noise, there seemed to be just as many, and probably more Barrera fans than UK Hamed fans. Or maybe it just seemed that way since Barrera was the one doing all the punching.
Julio Cesar Chavez drew 130,000 for his fight against Haugen, and 65,000 for his fight with Whitaker.
I would argue that Mexicans are the most loyal and dedicated fans that the sport of boxing has. And I'm not Mexican, so I'm not saying this because of any personal preference.
Well said SweetPea.....
Dempsey v Tunney,Phillidelphia stadium...150,000 :o
Fans paid around £530,000 collectively (Put that into todays terms...Serious gate reciepts!!!
Dempsey Tunney was 120,557
I like the way you can quote to the exact man! Like they really had any clue how many they let through the gates in those days ::**
Re: Who are the best boxing fans in the world?
:D :D ;D
Maybe he's Dr Who with a head counter..
All in all theres NO WAY anyone could correctly estimate those old fight attendances (Security would have been pathetic so i can assume there would be even more people in reality)
Re: Who are the best boxing fans in the world?
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
Thanks to everyone who took part in my survey, coolclicks to all :)
Heres CC#711 on me Bilbo....
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
Hey CutMeMick. I wasn't trying to offend by saying Mexicans couldn't afford to.
Not offended at all mate!!
I even made the joke that we couldn't afford to cause we waisted our money buying expensive rims for our 1999 Hondas.... ;D
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
Just as a second world country whose fighters are always portrayed by HBO at least as coming out of abject poverty and living on dirt floors I figured the average Mexican probably can't afford a television let alone tickets to Vegas?
Well like any other country Mexico has it's bad parts about it most def. theres states in Mexico where electricity don't even run to them, they have no idea how a TV, phone work.... But thats not just Mexico theres families here the states like that and I can't say this for sure but I'm pretty sure theres families like this in UK, or Am I wrong? I'm asking cause I don't know for sure to me in the words of Eddie Izzard: "We all live in castles, we are up to here with fwocken castles. We'd long for a bungalow or something" :lolhaha: Eddie what a funny bloke he is... ;D
Anywho!!
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
Is that not the case? I know some like yourself are doing very well but I thought the country itself was pretty poor?
Yeah that is the case. Well I'm doing OK I can't complaint much but I do work a** off for everything I have and I'm very thankful for every oppourtunity I get....
You know something the avg. pay rate/wage in Mexico for a pretty decent job is about $4.40 dlls. a day this is a decent job but you theres countries that are worst out there.... But thats getting into World Politics so let's just drop all that and get into boxing....
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
Anyways 130,000+ for a fight is absolutely insane!
Yeah! thats insane man!
I'm sure you have the fight JCC vs. Haugen throw it on and watch it....
Gives me goose bumps everytime I watch it....
As always Bilbo good chats with 'ya man, always enjoy them.... :)
I just watched that for first time today damn what beat down Haugen shouldn't have opened that mouth of his Chavez was so angry he wouldn't even touch gloves in ring but damn what one sided beat down that was but i think Edwin Rosario beat down was just as bad.
Re: Who are the best boxing fans in the world?
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Originally Posted by Smashup
All in all theres NO WAY anyone could correctly estimate those old fight attendances (Security would have been pathetic so i can assume there would be even more people in reality)
True, so as far as actual counts JCC vs. Haugen is known as the biggest crowd to attend a boxing event.
Re: Who are the best boxing fans in the world?
I voted Mexican.
The average American fight fan will cheer their fighter on but won't buy tickets or PPV's. Half the time they won't even watch the fight for free because they'd rather be at a club getting drunk.
Re: Who are the best boxing fans in the world?
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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
The average American fight fan will cheer their fighter on but won't buy tickets or PPV's. Half the time they won't even watch the fight for free because they'd rather be at a club getting drunk.
;D or watching football...
Re: Who are the best boxing fans in the world?
I don't think rowdiness has anything to do with how great of a fan you are. The Japanese sit still and harldy make a whisper and they are great nation of fight fans.
Just last year I was asking anyone I saw of latin origin "De La Hoya or Mayorga?" Some said Mayorga most said De La Hoya but very few looked at me like I was insane. Alomst all the white Americans either ignored me or shrugged their shoulders as if to say, "who gives a rats ass."
Re: Who are the best boxing fans in the world?
Boxing in Finland is like Boxing in a morgue Hope this helps
Re: Who are the best boxing fans in the world?
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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
I don't think rowdiness has anything to do with how great of a fan you are. The Japanese sit still and harldy make a whisper and they are great nation of fight fans.
Yeah but as a fan your there to support your man, the best way to do that is to shout, scream and sing as loud as you possibly can.