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Tom Cribb also did it for his rematch with Tom Monilyuex .
Bill Richmand became a fully paid up member of the Establishment who made his money before Boxing .
( somebody is gonna show me up here i know )
But if i remember rightly he was walking in the street when somebody offended his lady companion and BR took great offence and sorted them .
His 1st fight was against local champion Docky and he won easily and a star was born .
( fire at will Smashup )
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After ten fights there hands were fucked
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Illustrated above is a rough guide to how the rounds/length of a fight was judged so how long iyopinion would 10 be (rough estimate like)?
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Funny thing about the bare knuckle era is they toed the line as well...There was no moving about until just about the end of the era...Here are a few guys I think would have done well in that era,,,,
Ricardo Mayorga.....
Mike Tyson......
Aaron Pryor...
Manny Pacquaio...
Tex Cobb.....( until his face swelled shut lol)
James Toney....( Even if it was when they toed the line he would have done well due to the fact he barely moves when using his defense)
Marvin Hagler....
Tommy Hearns....
Earnie Shavers,,Foreman,,Rocky Marciano,,
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The fights that went on for hours were not fought at any great pace alot of the time when a fighter was down it was gentlemanly to wait for him to recover and come back upto scratch !!!
I read somewhere that if a fighter was down he had 30 seconds to toe the line or they "were deemed a beaten man."
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After ten fights there hands were fucked
good point .. you would need to vary your power considerably under those conditions. and be spot on accurate with your shot.
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Ricardo Mayorga
Oliver MCall
Jorge Barrios
Edison Miranda
Jermain Taylor
These guys would be sucessful
PBF probably wouldnt be undefeated
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The more powerful the punch, the more risk of breaking knuckles.
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Rocky Marciano would be unstoppable in them days. PERIOD. Heart, Chin and a fucking bitch of a punch! 3 charactaristics that would be sooo valuable!!
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Ricardo Mayorga
Oliver MCall
Jorge Barrios
Edison Miranda
Jermain Taylor
These guys would be sucessful
PBF probably wouldnt be undefeated
I think you have a good list...( never thought about McCall He is a damn tough guy) But I have to ask Why Jermain Taylor??
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I actually think mixed martial guys would do better against the bare knuckle fighters of old.
Boxing without gloves is an entirely different sport. Any defensive fighter would be fucked, you could slip and block the punches as easily any more, you'd have no protection for your hands and there was no limit to the number of rounds.
I'm sure guys like Tyson etc would do well but honestly Chuck Liddel would probably have been one mean mutha fuckker back then as he's virtually a bare knuckle brawler now and damn near unstoppable at present.
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I actually think mixed martial guys would do better against the bare knuckle fighters of old.
Boxing without gloves is an entirely different sport. Any defensive fighter would be fucked, you could slip and block the punches as easily any more, you'd have no protection for your hands and there was no limit to the number of rounds.
I'm sure guys like Tyson etc would do well but honestly Chuck Liddel would probably have been one mean mutha fuckker back then as he's virtually a bare knuckle brawler now and damn near unstoppable at present.
Chuck Lidell would get smashed up bareknuckles or not the guy is an off balance musclebound MMA fighter id back any top ten heavyweight to knock him out with hands , there a difference between an MMA fighter and a world class boxer .
Look at Lidells elbows when he throws any kind of punch and compare it to a boxer , the geezer can't punch . He might be able to punch going forward but a counter puncher ( genuine puncher ) can throw a knockout punch off the back foot, believe me he'd get sparked very quickly .
The reason gloves were put on fists is to protect hands from heads not to protect heads from hands !!!!
The same fighters who are world champion with gloves would be world champion in the bareknuckle era because genuine world champs are smarter more adaptable and deal with crisis better than fighters who have the talent but never quite make it .
Non punchers can still do untold damage without gloves you'd just have a more evolved fighter with better skills .
The points null and void anyway like i said Gloves were put on fists to protect hands and as my old mate Scrap didly Ap said their hands were fucked after 10 fights .
Imagine Rafeal Marquez smashing somebody in the head he'd break his whole handand probably damage his wrist and elbow .
Hitting the bag without gloves is dangerous enough conditioned bone such as skull ,hip and elbow is fucking suicidal .
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Ricardo Mayorga
Oliver MCall
Jorge Barrios
Edison Miranda
Jermain Taylor
These guys would be sucessful
PBF probably wouldnt be undefeated
I think you have a good list...( never thought about McCall He is a damn tough guy) But I have to ask Why Jermain Taylor??
Um... Sorry can't agree there. McAll is not tough he is MENTAL. He would cry at the first sign of trouble. Again. Taylor would be great b/c he hits a lot and his hands would survive.
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And Mayorga!! Give me a break. There is just no way he could be up there. i agree with the swash man. Doesn't matter if the gloves are on or not.
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
I actually think mixed martial guys would do better against the bare knuckle fighters of old.
Boxing without gloves is an entirely different sport. Any defensive fighter would be fucked, you could slip and block the punches as easily any more, you'd have no protection for your hands and there was no limit to the number of rounds.
I'm sure guys like Tyson etc would do well but honestly Chuck Liddel would probably have been one mean mutha fuckker back then as he's virtually a bare knuckle brawler now and damn near unstoppable at present.
Chuck Lidell would get smashed up bareknuckles or not the guy is an
off balance musclebound MMA fighter id back any top ten heavyweight to knock him out with hands , there a difference between an MMA fighter and a world class boxer .
Look at Lidells elbows when he throws any kind of punch and compare it to a boxer ,
[the geezer can't punch . He might be able to punch going forward but a counter puncher ( genuine puncher ) can throw a knockout punch off the back foot, believe me he'd get sparked very quickly . The reason gloves were put on fists is to protect hands from heads not to protect heads from hands !!!!
The same fighters who are world champion with gloves would be world champion in the bareknuckle era because genuine world champs are smarter more adaptable and deal with crisis better than fighters who have the talent but never quite make it .
Non punchers can still do untold damage without gloves you'd just have a more evolved fighter with better skills .
The points null and void anyway like i said Gloves were put on fists to protect hands and as my old mate Scrap didly Ap said their hands were fucked after 10 fights .
Imagine Rafeal Marquez smashing somebody in the head he'd break his whole handand probably damage his wrist and elbow .
Hitting the bag without gloves is dangerous enough conditioned bone such as skull ,hip and elbow is F****** suicidal .
Total Idiotic comment with ignorance stinking to high heaven and earning a much deserved :sadclick: # 46
Liddell is the opposite of musclebound and as a matter of fact has great balance and fluidity in his punches
He cant punch Huh? ::** Well there are quite a few of his opponents that will disagree with that...
20W-3L with 13KO's http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/f...?FighterID=192
As a matter of fact Lidell has KO quite a few opponents backing up and is a prolific counterpuncher... So I dont know who or what the hell your watching but I suggest you look closer or actually look before writing stuff that is so wrong its ridiculous....
############# ALSO LOOK AT THE PICTURE OF CHUCK IN THE LINK I PROVIDED.... YEA HIS PYHSIQUE IS LEGENDARY, KINDA RONNIE COLEMAN ESQUE ::** #######################################