Re: why did Ppl think Trinidad was gonna beat Hopkins????
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
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Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Trinidad was not overated and i thought he would win because of his ko power i expected a ko from him because he carried his power upto middle with his ko of Joppy
His impressive KO of Joppy in Tito's 1st fight at 160, combined with Hopkins' subpar performance against Keith Holmes.... all that kinda raised my expectations, too. Hopkins was just too much of a tough nut for Tito to crack, however.
I figured it would come down to a hard and close decision and i was hoping it was for trinidad..
I was already a fan of Bhop knew he hadnt, wouldnt and probably will never be stopped...
Personally i think he is one of the most underrated defensive greats of all time..
But the way in which bernard fought tito was genius and what happened in that fight was exactly what Bernard had expected to happen.. It was pretty much planned to a tee..
Yep to be honest Hopkins performance against Tito was excellent like poetry in motion Hopkins was at his best there he fought extremely well he done everything exactly right and even brawling sometimes that was one of the most beautiful performances i've ever seen in ring and props to Tito for lasting that long because he took some very hard shots.
Re: why did Ppl think Trinidad was gonna beat Hopkins????
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
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Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Trinidad was not overated and i thought he would win because of his ko power i expected a ko from him because he carried his power upto middle with his ko of Joppy
His impressive KO of Joppy in Tito's 1st fight at 160, combined with Hopkins' subpar performance against Keith Holmes.... all that kinda raised my expectations, too. Hopkins was just too much of a tough nut for Tito to crack, however.
I figured it would come down to a hard and close decision and i was hoping it was for trinidad..
I was already a fan of Bhop knew he hadnt, wouldnt and probably will never be stopped...
Personally i think he is one of the most underrated defensive greats of all time..
But the way in which bernard fought tito was genius and what happened in that fight was exactly what Bernard had expected to happen.. It was pretty much planned to a tee..
Yep to be honest Hopkins performance against Tito was excellent like poetry in motion Hopkins was at his best there he fought extremely well he done everything exactly right and even brawling sometimes that was one of the most beautiful performances i've ever seen in ring
and props to Tito for lasting that long because he took some very hard shots.
A severely well-deserved CC for that, Ice. No one EVER mentions that side of the fight. People lose sight of the fact that this was Trinidad's 2nd fight ever at 160. He was facing a truly UNDERrated (at the time) defensive master at middleweight. A natural middleweight who had reigned at that weight for a LONG time. Someone who will undoubtedly go into the HOF as one of the best middleweights in boxing's history. IMO, there is no shame whatsoever in Tito's defeat to Hopkins.
Re: why did Ppl think Trinidad was gonna beat Hopkins????
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
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Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Trinidad was not overated and i thought he would win because of his ko power i expected a ko from him because he carried his power upto middle with his ko of Joppy
His impressive KO of Joppy in Tito's 1st fight at 160, combined with Hopkins' subpar performance against Keith Holmes.... all that kinda raised my expectations, too. Hopkins was just too much of a tough nut for Tito to crack, however.
I figured it would come down to a hard and close decision and i was hoping it was for trinidad..
I was already a fan of Bhop knew he hadnt, wouldnt and probably will never be stopped...
Personally i think he is one of the most underrated defensive greats of all time..
But the way in which bernard fought tito was genius and what happened in that fight was exactly what Bernard had expected to happen.. It was pretty much planned to a tee..
Yep to be honest Hopkins performance against Tito was excellent like poetry in motion Hopkins was at his best there he fought extremely well he done everything exactly right and even brawling sometimes that was one of the most beautiful performances i've ever seen in ring
and props to Tito for lasting that long because he took some very hard shots.
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severely well-deserved CC for that, Ice. No one EVER mentions that side of the fight. People lose sight of the fact that this was Trinidad's 2nd fight ever at 160. He was facing a truly UNDERrated (at the time) defensive master at middleweight. A natural middleweight who had reigned at that weight for a LONG time. Someone who will undoubtedly go into the HOF as one of the best middleweights in boxing's history. IMO, there is no shame whatsoever in Tito's defeat to Hopkins.
:coolclick: back bro watched that fight few times i couldn't believe right hands Tito took and that right hand that floored him that was perfect right hand and he still got up what heart from Tito plus that wasn't even his proper weight thats amazing thing and am i biggest Tito fan ?? no but do i respect him not ducking anyone and his style and his warrior like heart ?? oh hell yes ;)
Re: why did Ppl think Trinidad was gonna beat Hopkins????
No shame atall.. I mean if anything tito was hugely exciting from the start because he had a vulnerability to him and he got knocked down early only to knockout his opponents..
And the complete contrast in which he actually suffered his only defeats he was in fact slowly and methodically taken apart by two of the best pound for pound and best defensive fighters of this era if not ever..
And lets not forget..Tito was up at nine..It was felix sr who walked in with the towel to stop the fight..
One thing that is really interesting to watch is that when a friend of mine see's the knockout..nine out of ten will say that bernard pushed felix..But he in fact turned in so hard with a right hand felix was as close to dead weight as he possibly could be without actually bieng sparked out.. He hits him then pushes forward and goes to throw another shot but felix is already down..
A real sight to see when felix is down and stumbles back down whilst struggling to get up.. vacant stare and everything
Re: why did Ppl think Trinidad was gonna beat Hopkins????
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
No shame atall.. I mean if anything tito was hugely exciting from the start because he had a vulnerability to him and he got knocked down early only to knockout his opponents..
And the complete contrast in which he actually suffered his only defeats he was in fact slowly and methodically taken apart by two of the best pound for pound and best defensive fighters of this era if not ever..
And lets not forget..Tito was up at nine..It was felix sr who walked in with the towel to stop the fight..
One thing that is really interesting to watch is that when a friend of mine see's the knockout..nine out of ten will say that bernard pushed felix..But he in fact turned in so hard with a right hand felix was as close to dead weight as he possibly could be without actually bieng sparked out.. He hits him then pushes forward and goes to throw another shot but felix is already down..
A real sight to see when felix is down and stumbles back down whilst struggling to get up.. vacant stare and everything
Damn bro. Got me all choked up while reading that last paragraph (LOL). No but seriously, that was a pretty good description of the end of the fight. I remember that blank stare as well. Few of us can imagine what it must be like to go down by KO for the first time in over 40 fights, most of them KO victories. And yeah, Tito was up at nine. But Felix Sr. had seen enough and knew Tito would just suffer unnecessary damage.
Re: why did Ppl think Trinidad was gonna beat Hopkins????
Agreed. That was just an old school, outback woodshed, downhome Mississippi @ss whoopin'!
Re: why did Ppl think Trinidad was gonna beat Hopkins????
Tito was beaten before he even got in the ring , right from the start Hopkins owned him !
Remeber his Body language coming to the ring ?
Does anyone remember the Press conferance in Puerto Rico ?
Hopkins pushed him back and Tito didnt retaliate with zest or enthusiasim right from that moment he lost the fight !!
The fight also took place 2 weeks after 9/11 the original was cancelled Tito had to wait around in New York whilst Hopkins went home to relax and tick over people who dont believe this was a factor should remember the shape Tito came into the ring .................................................. .......................................fat with a belly and though Tito also put on a bit spare after weighing in he was badly out of condition .
Hopkins would have beaten him anyway .
