Bad Omens before Big Upsets...

I know this is about upsets, but I have a couple stories about omens I'd like to share.

The night before his fight with Timothy Doyle, Sugar Ray Robinson dreamed exactly how his opponent would die. He dreamt that he killed his opponent in the 8'th round and how it would happed. It had such a profound effect on him that he tried to pull out of the fight, but the promoters and his manager talked him into going through with it. As turned out his dream really was a premonition, and his opponent Tim Doyle died just the way he looked in Robinson's dream the night before. It shook Robinson up enough that he'd lose his killer instinct from then on. He still pulled of some beautiful fights regardless.

I remember reading before, I can't recall the event or the fighter's involved, but the bout was done outside on a cloudy day and one fighter died and when it happened the sky opened up and a beam of light shined on the dead fighter's body. Wow... I even saw the photograph and it was really something else.

Strange looking at some of the old 15 rounders, I remember Jersey Joe Walcott was kayoed in the 13th round by Marciano after controlling the fight up to that point. I'm not sure if he was kayoed by Joe Louis in the 11th, or 13th round.

"If you believe in omens, Manfredo-Calzaghe takes place nearly 20 years to the day of Leonard's epic upset of 'Marvelous' Marvin Hagler. Like Leonard in 1987, Manfredo is facing what many pundits consider insurmountable odds."

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Yup. It's true about Robinson and Doyle. Actually there is footage of priest talking to Robinson before the fight convincing him to fight. Lot of people contend Sugar Ray lost his KO instinct that night.

I saw that clip too, it was in a documentary.

Knowing that, if I had a dream that I had a dream that let me know that my hands would kill the guy I'd pull out of it. No priest or prayer would persuade me otherwise. I wouldn't care if a pussy, coward, or anything. Who wants killing on their conscience? It really did effect him just like some other fighters, Emile Griffith, and some others I can't think of. They hold back instead of following up their shots when their man is hurt.

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Originally Posted by Chris N.

I saw that clip too, it was in a documentary.

Knowing that, if I had a dream that I had a dream that let me know that my hands would kill the guy I'd pull out of it. No priest or prayer would persuade me otherwise. I wouldn't care if a pussy, coward, or anything. Who wants killing on their conscience? It really did effect him just like some other fighters, Emile Griffith, and some others I can't think of. They hold back instead of following up their shots when their man is hurt.

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Bright Lights Dark Shadows, excellent documentary.

Dont know about the tito one...

The raggaeton had been in his entrances for a while..From about ried onwards.. Infact i think baby rasta y gringo did a couple ringwalks with tito lol..

Lol..the dancing wasnt so bold before ..but hes a lively character our felix..
Was loving the dancing thou..He stopped and put his gloves out in front of him just before entering the ring.. so hes dancing and i look to the left and saw papa trinidad's face..
Priceless!! He just looks at felix jr like..What are you doing..!
Classic

Exactly what I was thinking. What are you doing Tito? He had regeton before but I don't remember him ever stop and dance the way he did that night...I might be wrong though.

That was great information on SRR. I didn't know about that. Gonna have to check that documentary.

I just thaught of another one....

DLH vs PBF. Floyd Sr. returning to the PBF camp...HAHA just kidding...

lol, it's more like a stick in Uncle Rodger's butt. You could also read into "sinco de mayo" as an omen, and Floyd isn't one bit mexican. ;)

Lennox Lewis filming that Oceans movie.

Tyson showing up with Don King not training.

An underdog getting really pissed off at being the underdog.


I remember I was watching someone interview Matt Serra before his St Pierre fight and they were talking and then the guy who was interviewing him said something. And Serra looked at him and said "You really don't think I have a chance in this fight do you?" And the guy said something like "No one does" or something. It was on UFC Unleashed. And after that Serra got a new look in his eyes. And I remember thinking to myself.... "Aww shat!!!"

* Nas not doing the flip before the Barrera fight

I figured I post on this seeing its only a few days till this epic matchup.. Anyone see anything unusual coming from either camp?

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OK you big fight fans. Has anybody gotten that funny feeling before a fight where something happend that made you go Oh Sh**t.. He's gonna lose now, then..bang he loses.

I got 3 that stick out right now...

Hamed vs MAB. He just couldn't make that flip over the ropes.

Lewis vs Rachman. Lewis decided a week before the fight to call himself The Lion. That has got to be bad luck...and he never called himself The Lion afterwards either.

Tito vs Hopkins. No not 9/11, to me it was him singing and dancing "regeton" before getting into the ring. I remember thinking that I had never seen him dance before stepping into a ring.

Anybody else notice these things or am I the only idiot that does...

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Not only that, but Trinidad looked like a fag/little bitch with that hat/outfit he was wearing into the ring that night.

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Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan

OK you big fight fans. Has anybody gotten that funny feeling before a fight where something happend that made you go Oh Sh**t.. He's gonna lose now, then..bang he loses.

I got 3 that stick out right now...

Hamed vs MAB. He just couldn't make that flip over the ropes.

Lewis vs Rachman. Lewis decided a week before the fight to call himself The Lion. That has got to be bad luck...and he never called himself The Lion afterwards either.

Tito vs Hopkins. No not 9/11, to me it was him singing and dancing "regeton" before getting into the ring. I remember thinking that I had never seen him dance before stepping into a ring.

Anybody else notice these things or am I the only idiot that does...

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Good stuff

Hatton not having his morning fry-up on the day of the Floyd fight.

The Naz one is what I immediately thought of. After all the fuss about the gloves too.

I can't see how Cotto losing would be such a great upset. Sure I think he will win but its certainly no foregone conclusion. As for Naz I never thought he had a chance with Barrera I always thought that Barrera would beat him.

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Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan

OK you big fight fans. Has anybody gotten that funny feeling before a fight where something happend that made you go Oh Sh**t.. He's gonna lose now, then..bang he loses.

I got 3 that stick out right now...

Hamed vs MAB. He just couldn't make that flip over the ropes.

Lewis vs Rachman. Lewis decided a week before the fight to call himself The Lion. That has got to be bad luck...and he never called himself The Lion afterwards either.

Tito vs Hopkins. No not 9/11, to me it was him singing and dancing "regeton" before getting into the ring. I remember thinking that I had never seen him dance before stepping into a ring.

Anybody else notice these things or am I the only idiot that does...

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When i saw the weigh in for Tszyu V Hatton i immediately thought "shit Tszyu looks drawn and gaunt" then he doesn't make the weight, then has to lose a little and try again. I knew then he was stuffed!