Re: Floyd Mayweather .... i mean why ?
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
He is a pompus little a** who is skilled as they come but also came along in the right era.....If this was 1985 Floyd Mayweather would be just another fighter...I don't care what anyone says.....
Would you mind listing the fighters between 130 and 147 pounds who would have been better than Floyd in 1985?
When I say 1985 I refer to it as an about so if you want to get technical we will say from 1980-1988---
He would not have out boxed Hecto Camacho,,,Camacho would have frustrated Floyd,,,Aaron Pryor would have Ko'd him...Leonard would have beat him,,Hearns,,Arguello,,Whitaker,,,need I go on.....Everey single one of them would wipe thier ass with Floyds resume
Re: Floyd Mayweather .... i mean why ?
I'd disagree with any of them frustrating and KO'ing Floyd.
Re: Floyd Mayweather .... i mean why ?
Aaron Pryor is the one with the only real shot to KO Floyd imo. I could see Whitaker and Leonard beating him, though they would be toss ups.
Re: Floyd Mayweather .... i mean why ?
Oscar's gonna get schooled bad, similar to what Bernard Hopkins did to Keith Holmes.
Re: Floyd Mayweather .... i mean why ?
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
He is a pompus little a** who is skilled as they come but also came along in the right era.....If this was 1985 Floyd Mayweather would be just another fighter...I don't care what anyone says.....
Would you mind listing the fighters between 130 and 147 pounds who would have been better than Floyd in 1985?
When I say 1985 I refer to it as an about so if you want to get technical we will say from 1980-1988---
He would not have out boxed Hecto Camacho,,,Camacho would have frustrated Floyd,,,Aaron Pryor would have Ko'd him...Leonard would have beat him,,Hearns,,Arguello,,Whitaker,,,need I go on.....Everey single one of them would wipe thier a** with Floyds resume
Floyd would beat Arguello and Camacho and Whitaker fight would be 50/50 but Pryor and Hearns would beat him though.
Re: Floyd Mayweather .... i mean why ?
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Originally Posted by the phenom
well noone liked ali when he talked S*** but time and time again ali proved himself ............. and i bet 5 ppl money and they dont even follow boxig they jus pick oscar cuz he nice
while arrogance is/was common to both floyd and ali, the comparison ends there. ali was articulate, politically engaged, emphasized to youth respect for elders and staying off drugs, and was damn funny and charismatic.
Re: Floyd Mayweather .... i mean why ?
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
He is a pompus little a** who is skilled as they come but also came along in the right era.....If this was 1985 Floyd Mayweather would be just another fighter...I don't care what anyone says.....
Would you mind listing the fighters between 130 and 147 pounds who would have been better than Floyd in 1985?
When I say 1985 I refer to it as an about so if you want to get technical we will say from 1980-1988---
He would not have out boxed Hecto Camacho,,,Camacho would have frustrated Floyd,,,Aaron Pryor would have Ko'd him...Leonard would have beat him,,Hearns,,Arguello,,Whitaker,,,need I go on.....Everey single one of them would wipe thier a** with Floyds resume
Floyd would beat Arguello and Camacho and Whitaker fight would be 50/50 but Pryor and Hearns would beat him though.
You obviously have little knowledge of a young prime Hector Camacho...or Arguello pre 140 lbs
Re: Floyd Mayweather .... i mean why ?
Whitaker Floyd 50-50? NO WAY! Pernell would beat Floyd's ass!Hearns would have battered him,Leonard would have been too much. I have little knowledge on Camacho when he was younger so fill me in on that Daxx.
Re: Floyd Mayweather .... i mean why ?
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
He is a pompus little a** who is skilled as they come but also came along in the right era.....If this was 1985 Floyd Mayweather would be just another fighter...I don't care what anyone says.....
Would you mind listing the fighters between 130 and 147 pounds who would have been better than Floyd in 1985?
When I say 1985 I refer to it as an about so if you want to get technical we will say from 1980-1988---
He would not have out boxed Hecto Camacho,,,Camacho would have frustrated Floyd,,,Aaron Pryor would have Ko'd him...Leonard would have beat him,,Hearns,,Arguello,,Whitaker,,,need I go on.....Everey single one of them would wipe thier a** with Floyds resume
Floyd would beat Arguello and Camacho and Whitaker fight would be 50/50 but Pryor and Hearns would beat him though.
You obviously have little knowledge of a young prime Hector Camacho...or Arguello pre 140 lbs
More to do with you underrating Mayweather i see Arguello get outboxed by Pryor when he stuck and move and Pryor isn't master boxer like Mayweather and i've seen flaws in Arguello where Mayweather could beat him in other fights and Camacho was good fighter but not as skilled as Mayweather i mean Camacho got battered pillar to post by slow Chavez and also got basically shut out by Oscar im sorry he wouldn't beat Mayweather and i've seen quite a few of his fights.
Re: Floyd Mayweather .... i mean why ?
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Whitaker Floyd 50-50? NO WAY! Pernell would beat Floyd's a**!Hearns would have battered him,Leonard would have been too much. I have little knowledge on Camacho when he was younger so fill me in on that Daxx.
Whitaker isn't unbeatable he was master boxer and master defensive boxer but so is Mayweather maybe not as good defensively but he is on par with Whitaker in skills and i can't believe you think it would be easy lets just wait and see when Mayweather's career is over and see if you have same opinion.
Re: Floyd Mayweather .... i mean why ?
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Whitaker Floyd 50-50? NO WAY! Pernell would beat Floyd's a**!Hearns would have battered him,Leonard would have been too much. I have little knowledge on Camacho when he was younger so fill me in on that Daxx.
There has never been a great all around boxer who got dominated. KO'd? Yes. Dominated? Give me a break.
Re: Floyd Mayweather .... i mean why ?
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
When I say 1985 I refer to it as an about so if you want to get technical we will say from 1980-1988---
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He would not have out boxed Hecto Camacho,,,Camacho would have frustrated Floyd
Disagree.
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Aaron Pryor would have Ko'd him...
Disagree.
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Leonard would have beat him,,Hearns
I agree here. Keep in mind, Leonard and Hearns were both naturally much bigger than Floyd. They started at 147, before going to 154, 160, 168, etc. I could see them beating Floyd at 147, because both were great fighters, and they were much bigger. Hearns was very tall and rangy for a welterweight.
Great fighter, but I think Floyd could outbox him. Great fight though.
Whitaker is much younger than these other guys. His prime was '89-'95. I think Whitaker is a better fighter than Floyd, but it's hardly a washout. It would be a close fight.
All in all, if Floyd fought in the 1980s, or any other decade, would there be fighters who could possibly beat him? Sure.
But he would be among the PFP best in boxing at any given time period. He wouldn't have been "just any fighter," which is what you stated in your original post. He would've been considered as one of the top fighters in the sport, whether it was 1995, 1985, 1965, etc.
Re: Floyd Mayweather .... i mean why ?
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
When I say 1985 I refer to it as an about so if you want to get technical we will say from 1980-1988---
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He would not have out boxed Hecto Camacho,,,Camacho would have frustrated Floyd
Disagree.
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Aaron Pryor would have Ko'd him...
Disagree.
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Leonard would have beat him,,Hearns
I agree here. Keep in mind, Leonard and Hearns were both naturally much bigger than Floyd. They started at 147, before going to 154, 160, 168, etc. I could see them beating Floyd at 147, because both were great fighters, and they were much bigger. Hearns was very tall and rangy for a welterweight.
Great fighter, but I think Floyd could outbox him. Great fight though.
Whitaker is much younger than these other guys. His prime was '89-'95. I think Whitaker is a better fighter than Floyd, but it's hardly a washout. It would be a close fight.
All in all, if Floyd fought in the 1980s, or any other decade, would there be fighters who could possibly beat him? Sure.
But he would be among the PFP best in boxing at any given time period. He wouldn't have been "just any fighter," which is what you stated in your original post. He would've been considered as one of the top fighters in the sport, whether it was 1995, 1985, 1965, etc.
Word for word totally agree :coolclick:
Re: Floyd Mayweather .... i mean why ?
I agee that floyd is as talented as some of the greats be4 him but hes way to araagont for ne normal person to stand him only the people with the same size heads as him can. Nd he beleives hes the best of all time even no people like ray robinson nd pep had about 4 or 5 times the amount of fights he has he mocks them for losing but i guarntee back in them days with less protection from the reffs nd fighting that many times a year he wouldnt last to long. Also ive heard alot of people say that although ali was great at boxing it was his peronality that set him aprt from all the others, like larry holmes i think he could of beat ali at there primes but holmes even said if he tries to say he is the greatest people would say hes copying ali but i think thats bcos every1 saw him as a role model who they loved unlike floyd who is much less exciting to watch nd an arrogant boxer whos shows no respect to other fighters even though deserve it for stepping in the ring.
Re: Floyd Mayweather .... i mean why ?
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
He is a pompus little a** who is skilled as they come but also came along in the right era.....If this was 1985 Floyd Mayweather would be just another fighter...I don't care what anyone says.....
Would you mind listing the fighters between 130 and 147 pounds who would have been better than Floyd in 1985?
When I say 1985 I refer to it as an about so if you want to get technical we will say from 1980-1988---
He would not have out boxed Hecto Camacho,,,Camacho would have frustrated Floyd,,,Aaron Pryor would have Ko'd him...Leonard would have beat him,,Hearns,,Arguello,,Whitaker,,,need I go on.....Everey single one of them would wipe thier a** with Floyds resume
Floyd would beat Arguello and Camacho and Whitaker fight would be 50/50 but Pryor and Hearns would beat him though.
You obviously have little knowledge of a young prime Hector Camacho...or Arguello pre 140 lbs
More to do with you underrating Mayweather i see Arguello get outboxed by Pryor when he stuck and move and Pryor isn't master boxer like Mayweather and i've seen flaws in Arguello where Mayweather could beat him in other fights and Camacho was good fighter but not as skilled as Mayweather i mean Camacho got battered pillar to post by slow Chavez and also got basically shut out by Oscar im sorry he wouldn't beat Mayweather and i've seen quite a few of his fights.
The Hector Camacho who fought Chavez was not a prime Camacho....It was not the version of Camacho who wore the lightweight title...So by using Chavez as an example you answered the question on how much you know of Hector Camacho Sr....And the fact you used Chavez tells me what years of Camacho you have seen...The lightweight Version of Camacho was faster then Floyd Mayweather JR....Hit harder and had a mean streak...Since you seem to think your what is it 17 or 18 years in life makes you such an expert I'll let you explain why and in which fight Camacho turned from the agressive master boxer to the hit and run suspect...
Your a good poster ICB and you have a lot of boxing knowledge but it is all based on recent fighters and comparisons are often made using great fighters past their best days
