Re: Experts opinions on Oscar Floyd outcome....(VERY interesting)
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by "PRIDE OF BOSTON"
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
I think its interesting whether or not just winning will be enough for Floyd. Will he fight a very conservative fight like he did against Castillo in the second fight, or against Baldomir, or will he try to put on a show, and try to be exciting to the casual fan?
Put on a show? Oscar will be forced to cut the ring off and take him that way... PBF is not there to put on a show... He is there to win... He doesn't care if his fans like the outcome or not... He just wants to say "I told you so!" Oscar will have to catch this little bastard and Tatoo him!
That is a misconception about Lil Floyd which even I held until just a short time ago(3 days ago actually). Floyd does care what the fans think at times. He didn't care v Baldo simply because he was playing it safe,he wanted to guarantee the big payday v Oscar. However,most of his career,he has made slight alterations to his style in order to please fans. Watch his fight with Ndou where he stood toe to toe with a dangerous puncher,same with Sosa,Gatti etc etc. They are not the greatest names but he could easily have stunk the joint out in those fights and ran to a UD like he did v Baldo,He didn't. I think he'll look to impress in this fight,well I would like to think he wants to because the world is waiting and will be watching.
Well, at least I can say I hope you're right! I fu**ing fell asleep during the Baldo fight
Re: Experts opinions on Oscar Floyd outcome....(VERY interesting)
I think PBF's performance vs Gatti wasn't because PBF changed his style. It was because Gatti completely fought the wrong fight. He gave all his advantages away and tried to box with PBF. If Gatti roughed him up and stayed on him PBF probably would have kept on his bicycle.
The one bad thing about boxing is the paychecks are already made out before the fight starts. I think there is something to be said for paying the winner more, and the winner by ko even more. There have been many stinkers cause the fighter said, "I'm getting paid the same win or lose".
PBF is making millions either way, and he hyped up the Baldomir fight and then ran. I don't believe he's gonna stand and trade. But I don't think he's gonna be able to run much in a small ring.
Re: Experts opinions on Oscar Floyd outcome....(VERY interesting)
I sooooooooo hope so bro,if it' like the Baldo fight,I'll KTFO Floyd myself!
Re: Experts opinions on Oscar Floyd outcome....(VERY interesting)
Very interesting that Dino Duva and Lou Duva have completely different opinions!
Re: Experts opinions on Oscar Floyd outcome....(VERY interesting)
Heres my 'Official' take on the fight from our front page 8)
http://www.saddoboxing.com/5187-boxi...scar-hoya.html
Re: Experts opinions on Oscar Floyd outcome....(VERY interesting)
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Bit surprised by Tommy Brooks comment. I think Mayweather will win, but destroying Oscar in 8 rounds? I guess he thinks that he'll raise his level of fighting for the big moment but I haven't seen anything to make me think he's that kind of puncher at this weight. He's still the sharpest puncher in boxing and he can hurt you with accumulation but still kind of surprising comments from Brooks.
;D That was kind of an odd comment.
Not odd at all. To put it in Foreman's words " Oscar has a jab that STINGS! " He loves to go after blood. His jab is very stiff and makes your head go back. Foreman also pointed out that doing this takes energy off your back. Very interesting comment acually, he should have asked " How will Floyd deal with a bloody face? "
We've had tons of posts about this great fight and very few people, if any, have said anything about DLH's right hand. Why is everyone forgetting about this? The last few years, he has used it very effectively.
Basing a prediction on Floyd getting cut seems a bit odd to me. Could it happen, sure, but I doubt it will, and either way, its an odd reason to justify a prediction.
Oscar's right hand has gotten better, the question is, like with all his punches, is how consistently is he going to be able to land it.
Does anyone EVER expect cuts to factor in a prediction, especially in a Mega Fight? People are always shocked and pissed to see fights being stopped early because of cuts. I think he makes an interesting point though
...how would Mayweather deal with a cut in rounds 1 and 2?
I would say the same for Delahoya... Putting Reyes gloves on a stinging accurate puncer like Floyd and it wont be pretty.....
Re: Experts opinions on Oscar Floyd outcome....(VERY interesting)
I think of all the scenarios for Oscar winning, Glenn Johnson was the most spot on. Mayweather is going to have to come inside a lot imo.
Re: Experts opinions on Oscar Floyd outcome....(VERY interesting)
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by "PRIDE OF BOSTON"
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
I think its interesting whether or not just winning will be enough for Floyd. Will he fight a very conservative fight like he did against Castillo in the second fight, or against Baldomir, or will he try to put on a show, and try to be exciting to the casual fan?
Put on a show? Oscar will be forced to cut the ring off and take him that way... PBF is not there to put on a show... He is there to win... He doesn't care if his fans like the outcome or not... He just wants to say "I told you so!" Oscar will have to catch this little bastard and Tatoo him!
That is a misconception about Lil Floyd which even I held until just a short time ago(3 days ago actually). Floyd does care what the fans think at times. He didn't care v Baldo simply because he was playing it safe,he wanted to guarantee the big payday v Oscar. However,most of his career,he has made slight alterations to his style in order to please fans. Watch his fight with Ndou where he stood toe to toe with a dangerous puncher,same with Sosa,Gatti etc etc. They are not the greatest names but he could easily have stunk the joint out in those fights and ran to a UD like he did v Baldo,He didn't. I think he'll look to impress in this fight,well I would like to think he wants to because the world is waiting and will be watching.
CC in 24. Glad your seeing the light on Floyd ;D
Honestly, I don't get it. How does Mayweather win the fight by running? Do people think he is mailing in a loss? I don't get it.
Re: Experts opinions on Oscar Floyd outcome....(VERY interesting)
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Bit surprised by Tommy Brooks comment. I think Mayweather will win, but destroying Oscar in 8 rounds? I guess he thinks that he'll raise his level of fighting for the big moment but I haven't seen anything to make me think he's that kind of puncher at this weight. He's still the sharpest puncher in boxing and he can hurt you with accumulation but still kind of surprising comments from Brooks.
;D That was kind of an odd comment.
Not odd at all. To put it in Foreman's words " Oscar has a jab that STINGS! " He loves to go after blood. His jab is very stiff and makes your head go back. Foreman also pointed out that doing this takes energy off your back. Very interesting comment acually, he should have asked " How will Floyd deal with a bloody face? "
We've had tons of posts about this great fight and very few people, if any, have said anything about DLH's right hand. Why is everyone forgetting about this? The last few years, he has used it very effectively.
Basing a prediction on Floyd getting cut seems a bit odd to me. Could it happen, sure, but I doubt it will, and either way, its an odd reason to justify a prediction.
Oscar's right hand has gotten better, the question is, like with all his punches, is how consistently is he going to be able to land it.
Does anyone EVER expect cuts to factor in a prediction, especially in a Mega Fight? People are always shocked and pissed to see fights being stopped early because of cuts. I think he makes an interesting point though
...how would Mayweather deal with a cut in rounds 1 and 2?
I would say the same for Delahoya... Putting Reyes gloves on a stinging accurate puncer like Floyd and it wont be pretty.....
De La Hoya does not cut worth a damn.
Re: Experts opinions on Oscar Floyd outcome....(VERY interesting)
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Bit surprised by Tommy Brooks comment. I think Mayweather will win, but destroying Oscar in 8 rounds? I guess he thinks that he'll raise his level of fighting for the big moment but I haven't seen anything to make me think he's that kind of puncher at this weight. He's still the sharpest puncher in boxing and he can hurt you with accumulation but still kind of surprising comments from Brooks.
;D That was kind of an odd comment.
Not odd at all. To put it in Foreman's words " Oscar has a jab that STINGS! " He loves to go after blood. His jab is very stiff and makes your head go back. Foreman also pointed out that doing this takes energy off your back. Very interesting comment acually, he should have asked " How will Floyd deal with a bloody face? "
We've had tons of posts about this great fight and very few people, if any, have said anything about DLH's right hand. Why is everyone forgetting about this? The last few years, he has used it very effectively.
Basing a prediction on Floyd getting cut seems a bit odd to me. Could it happen, sure, but I doubt it will, and either way, its an odd reason to justify a prediction.
Oscar's right hand has gotten better, the question is, like with all his punches, is how consistently is he going to be able to land it.
Does anyone EVER expect cuts to factor in a prediction, especially in a Mega Fight? People are always shocked and pissed to see fights being stopped early because of cuts. I think he makes an interesting point though
...how would Mayweather deal with a cut in rounds 1 and 2?
I would say the same for Delahoya... Putting Reyes gloves on a stinging accurate puncer like Floyd and it wont be pretty.....
De La Hoya does not cut worth a damn.
I could be wrong but I dont ever remember Floyd being cut either
Re: Experts opinions on Oscar Floyd outcome....(VERY interesting)
All I can predict is that its a fight, and anything can and probably will happen.
Re: Experts opinions on Oscar Floyd outcome....(VERY interesting)
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All I can predict is that its a fight, and anything can and probably will happen.
Well said. With this much hype it's easy to over analyze things. Sure, i can see Floyd winning...but i can also see Oscar shocking a lot of people.
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How many eyes have you got? ;D
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All I can predict is that its a fight, and anything can and probably will happen.
Well said. With this much hype it's easy to over analyze things. Sure, i can see Floyd winning...but i can also see Oscar shocking a lot of people.
There's just too many intangibles, so I don't know where to start, all I want is to see whose the best.
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CC#584 on that Smash :appl:
Well done mate!! Enjoyed the read. :)
I also enjoyed the Cook-Voronin rd. by rd. 8) Top class fella...