Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston
Did he change it legally Bill? No matter how you dress it up, a pig is still a pig. Your wrong. If you wish to continue being wrong that's your prerogative but don't try to correct others when your ignorance keeps you completely awry of the facts.
Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston
Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston
Cassius is a beautiful name, Haye named his son after him, but Clay was the slave name which he wanted to change.
Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston
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Originally Posted by
Master
Cassius is a beautiful name, Haye named his son after him, but Clay was the slave name which he wanted to change.
Isn't it funny,
How 'Young Cassius' suddenly got religion when he found out that his number was
up for the United States Selective Service.
What A Coincidence .............:rolleyes:
Sonji Roi >
"You know, Cassius fell in love with me, for who I was. Then he wanted me to change, to help
him with his problems to get out of his commitment to the United States Selective Service."
"I got the feeling that I was being used as 'a tool'. I was his wife for God's Sake. He wanted me
to stop living, and become his slave. Isn't that a 'Fucking Spin' on his new found righteousness."
Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston
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Originally Posted by
Bill Paxtom
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Master
Cassius is a beautiful name, Haye named his son after him, but Clay was the slave name which he wanted to change.
Isn't it funny,
How 'Young Cassius' suddenly got religion when he found out that his number was
up for the United States Selective Service.
What A Coincidence .............:rolleyes:
He was going to change his name anyway and had nothing to do with the draft.
Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston
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Originally Posted by
Master
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Bill Paxtom
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Master
Cassius is a beautiful name, Haye named his son after him, but Clay was the slave name which he wanted to change.
Isn't it funny,
How 'Young Cassius' suddenly got religion when he found out that his number was
up for the United States Selective Service.
What A Coincidence .............:rolleyes:
He was going to change his name anyway and had nothing to do with the draft.
What else did Cassius Clay tell you, that you bought 'hook, line and sinker'.
I bet that he could have sold you the Brooklyn Bridge, if he was a 'Bridge Salesman'.
~ Read all about it. Man buys 'Brooklyn Bridge' from Cassius Clay {aka; Muhammad Ali} ~
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Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston
Bill, you only see the worst in Ali, so there is no talking to you.
Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston
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Originally Posted by
Master
Bill, you only see the worst in Ali, so there is no talking to you.
You shouldn't let your eyes be clouded by one man's Boxing Talent and Entertainment Value.
How much do you really know about Muhammad Ali.
Just what you read, which was by someone else's opinion. Or what you saw on Television.
That's not knowing anything in 'real' depth.
Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston
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Originally Posted by
Bill Paxtom
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Originally Posted by
Master
Bill, you only see the worst in Ali, so there is no talking to you.
You shouldn't let your eyes be clouded by one man's Boxing Talent and Entertainment Value.
How much do you really know about Muhammad Ali.
Just what you read, which was by someone else's opinion. Or what you saw on Television.
That's not knowing anything in 'real' depth.
Unless you knew him personally, you do not know him better than anyone else.
Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston
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Originally Posted by
Master
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Bill Paxtom
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Master
Bill, you only see the worst in Ali, so there is no talking to you.
You shouldn't let your eyes be clouded by one man's Boxing Talent and Entertainment Value.
How much do you really know about Muhammad Ali.
Just what you read, which was by someone else's opinion. Or what you saw on Television.
That's not knowing anything in 'real' depth.
Unless you knew him personally, you do not know him better than anyone else.
A close family member {Uncle} of mine worked with Cassius Clay.
We know a lot.
Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston
Ali was introduced to Black Muslims long before the draft.
Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston
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Originally Posted by
Master
Ali was introduced to Black Muslims long before the draft.
Why inject truth?
Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston
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Originally Posted by
ICB
Time - 23:00 - 00:00 (1 hour long)
When - Saturday 5th May on ESPN Classic
Clay V Liston.
1964 - Classic archive action from the fight that 'shook up the world'. Reigning champ Liston faces an arrogant, exuberant opponent in young Cassius Clay.
One of the many great things about this fight was how the Louiville "lip" fought so many of the top ten contenders.
1962-1963-1964 Ring ratings show who Clay-Ali fought to get to the title and defend the title.
Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston
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Originally Posted by
SlimTrae
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Originally Posted by
ICB
Time - 23:00 - 00:00 (1 hour long)
When - Saturday 5th May on ESPN Classic
Clay V Liston.
1964 - Classic archive action from the fight that 'shook up the world'. Reigning champ Liston faces an arrogant, exuberant opponent in young Cassius Clay.
One of the many great things about this fight was how the Louiville "lip" fought so many of the top ten contenders.
1962-1963-1964 Ring ratings show who Clay-Ali fought to get to the title and defend the title.
Just Who Did Cassius Clay Avoid On His Rise To The Heavyweight Challenge In February 1964.
Actually >
It was his Management {The Louisville Sponsoring Group}, who knew that their fighter was, as we like to put it
'a fabrication' created by good press and a 'well-oiled' Professional Publicity Machine.
Re: Cassius Clay vs Sonny Liston
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Originally Posted by
Bill Paxtom
Quote:
Originally Posted by
SlimTrae
Quote:
Originally Posted by
ICB
Time - 23:00 - 00:00 (1 hour long)
When - Saturday 5th May on ESPN Classic
Clay V Liston.
1964 - Classic archive action from the fight that 'shook up the world'. Reigning champ Liston faces an arrogant, exuberant opponent in young Cassius Clay.
One of the many great things about this fight was how the Louiville "lip" fought so many of the top ten contenders.
1962-1963-1964 Ring ratings show who Clay-Ali fought to get to the title and defend the title.
Just Who Did Cassius Clay Avoid On His Rise To The Heavyweight Challenge In February 1964.
Actually >
It was his Management {The Louisville Sponsoring Group}, who knew that their fighter was, as we like to put it
'a fabrication' created by good press and a 'well-oiled' Professional Publicity Machine.
So they fabricated the top ten HW's? From what years? Please enlighten us. I like a good laugh.