Re: What was DLH talking about?
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by overhandright
Floyd's boxing skills are unmatched in the sport right now, maybe ever, but winning a split decision over a 34 year old former great fighter wasn't exactly earth shaking stuff. Gatti, Baldomir and De La Hoya......downside, downside, downside.........at this point Mayweather is knocking off big names not the best fighters. The guy is a great fighter I just wish he took more of the fights that would prove it.
Please please please stop with this "Oscar's 34" shit. It's not like he's 40. Plus Floyd is 30 himself. They're basically the same age. Were you saying "there's no point in this fight, it won't prove anything because Oscar is 34" BEFORE Floyd won? And that 115-113 card to DLH was a GIFT, my friend.
Oscar is about 50 in boxing years, his resume is STACKED, so he's had a bit more taken out of him. There is a reason people are calling for ODLH to retire and for Floyd to stay. Not close to the same age. Other then that I pretty much agree with you.
Re: What was DLH talking about?
AMAT
who'd win between OSCAR and ya boy BLACK DANTE, PRETTY FLACO?
Re: What was DLH talking about?
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Originally Posted by amat
His defense is being underrated, a ton of punches went off those gloves. But I disagree with the jab comprimising his defense because, when he had the jab working, Floyd went into defense mode and was not even throwing punches.
Good point ;)
Re: What was DLH talking about?
I hope not to see a re-match between DLH and PBF. I think the outcome would be more of the same only by a wider margin. After the fight PBF said he weighed 148 for the fight so why not drop a pound and take on the best Welters. In my opinion if he capped his career off with a big win against an undefeated Miguel Cotto, or a still dangerous Shane Mosley regardless of how he beat them, that would earn him the respect he craves.
Re: What was DLH talking about?
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He said it wasn't the night of the jab? What the hell does that mean!? He was scoring well and giving Floyd problems whenever he threw it. Roach told him to work it and he just shut down. It's tough to say whether he got tired or he was just plain dumb. That was one of the weakest responses and/or explanations I've ever heard after a fighter basically threw away the biggest fight of his life. This was worse than the Tito fight. At least he can say he was decisively winning that one then he tried to coast but against Floyd Oscar had to realize that he needed every round in order to win a decision. Floyd did his usual thing, he talked a big game then danced around landing his pitter-pat shots one at a time. He is extremely slick and sooooo difficult to hit but shut up with this greatest of all time crap, it makes me sick. Oscar's late round performance was dissappointing. As he has in other big fights he just dissappeared down the stretch, the CHAMPIONSHIP ROUNDS, when great fighters are supposed to shine. Were this fight between two other fighters it would have been great but with the skills that these two possess I expected more.
8) It isnt about all that your putting too much on it! He was just fine as he was fighting! Alot of Mayweathers punches were blocked I only saw Oscars head fly back twice in that fight! I cant count the times Floyds head went backwards! Oscar was also the aggresser through out that fight some fail to see. The judges werent the kind that look for that either I guess. You should have expected the youngster to be the aggresser not the vet! I won my bet but I thought Oscar won that fight and have seen it at least 5 times and nothing changes my mind. And if others have there thoughts thats ok too! But to me Oscar won and when I see him next time I will congraulate him for a great fight that should have been a win! 8)
Re: What was DLH talking about?
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Originally Posted by overhandright
He said it wasn't the night of the jab? What the hell does that mean!? He was scoring well and giving Floyd problems whenever he threw it. Roach told him to work it and he just shut down. It's tough to say whether he got tired or he was just plain dumb. That was one of the weakest responses and/or explanations I've ever heard after a fighter basically threw away the biggest fight of his life. This was worse than the Tito fight. At least he can say he was decisively winning that one then he tried to coast but against Floyd Oscar had to realize that he needed every round in order to win a decision. Floyd did his usual thing, he talked a big game then danced around landing his pitter-pat shots one at a time. He is extremely slick and sooooo difficult to hit but shut up with this greatest of all time crap, it makes me sick. Oscar's late round performance was dissappointing. As he has in other big fights he just dissappeared down the stretch, the CHAMPIONSHIP ROUNDS, when great fighters are supposed to shine. Were this fight between two other fighters it would have been great but with the skills that these two possess I expected more.
He was scared to get countered, In other words he's a bitch that cannot handle the loss to PBF, DelaHoya=Spoiled Brat and fake!
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8) It isnt about all that your putting too much on it! He was just fine as he was fighting! Alot of Mayweathers punches were blocked I only saw Oscars head fly back twice in that fight! I cant count the times Floyds head went backwards! Oscar was also the aggresser through out that fight some fail to see. The judges werent the kind that look for that either I guess. You should have expected the youngster to be the aggresser not the vet! I won my bet but I thought Oscar won that fight and have seen it at least 5 times and nothing changes my mind. And if others have there thoughts thats ok too! But to me Oscar won and when I see him next time I will congraulate him for a great fight that should have been a win! 8)[/quote]
I agree Oscar was the aggressor and he deserves props for that. However I disagree that Floyd's head got rocked countless times. Like I said I had the fight 115-114 in favor of Floyd and that was only because he gave the last few rounds away. He put forth a good effort with the exception of the last two or three rounds.....he either gave up, got tired, or simply had a lapse in judgement. A little more aggression in rounds 10, 11 and 12 and Oscar probably wins the fight and to me that is dissappointing.
Re: What was DLH talking about?
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Originally Posted by overhandright
8) It isnt about all that your putting too much on it! He was just fine as he was fighting! Alot of Mayweathers punches were blocked I only saw Oscars head fly back twice in that fight! I cant count the times Floyds head went backwards! Oscar was also the aggresser through out that fight some fail to see. The judges werent the kind that look for that either I guess. You should have expected the youngster to be the aggresser not the vet! I won my bet but I thought Oscar won that fight and have seen it at least 5 times and nothing changes my mind. And if others have there thoughts thats ok too! But to me Oscar won and when I see him next time I will congraulate him for a great fight that should have been a win! 8)
I agree Oscar was the aggressor and he deserves props for that. However I disagree that Floyd's head got rocked countless times. Like I said I had the fight 115-114 in favor of Floyd and that was only because he gave the last few rounds away. He put forth a good effort with the exception of the last two or three rounds.....he either gave up, got tired, or simply had a lapse in judgement. A little more aggression in rounds 10, 11 and 12 and Oscar probably wins the fight and to me that is dissappointing.
I don't know what that nonsense was about why he said he gave up on his jab. I think he just got tired and didn't have the toughness to push on to the end. I guess 8 rounds is all it took to get that image of the chicken with the gold metal out of his head.
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Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
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Originally Posted by overhandright
He said it wasn't the night of the jab? What the hell does that mean!? He was scoring well and giving Floyd problems whenever he threw it. Roach told him to work it and he just shut down. It's tough to say whether he got tired or he was just plain dumb. That was one of the weakest responses and/or explanations I've ever heard after a fighter basically threw away the biggest fight of his life. This was worse than the Tito fight. At least he can say he was decisively winning that one then he tried to coast but against Floyd Oscar had to realize that he needed every round in order to win a decision. Floyd did his usual thing, he talked a big game then danced around landing his pitter-pat shots one at a time. He is extremely slick and sooooo difficult to hit but shut up with this greatest of all time crap, it makes me sick. Oscar's late round performance was dissappointing. As he has in other big fights he just dissappeared down the stretch, the CHAMPIONSHIP ROUNDS, when great fighters are supposed to shine. Were this fight between two other fighters it would have been great but with the skills that these two possess I expected more.
He was scared to get countered, In other words he's a bitch that cannot handle the loss to PBF, DelaHoya=Spoiled Brat and fake!
8) Why arnt you in there then you have the nerve to call someone like Del La Hoya a bitch! Id like to see you tell him that to his face! Id like for you to say that in front of me! Id sit you on your a** for him! The only bitch is you! what a homo man where do these guys come from?????????? 8)