Re: I thought Mosley beat delahoya far more soundly than floyd did
Does it matter matter a W is a W and floyd got the W
Re: I thought Mosley beat delahoya far more soundly than floyd did
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Does it matter matter a W is a W and floyd got the W
;D Well we wouldnt have too much to talk about if the thread author said:
"He won and he lost"
1st guy:I agree
2nd guy:I agree
3rd guy:Me too
.......and so on..
Re: I thought Mosley beat delahoya far more soundly than floyd did
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I thought mosley beat delahoya far more soundly than floyd did (I really thought floyd lost) in there first fight, he hurt oscar at times, floyd look like he hit like a girl at junior middle
Thank you for completely taking any credit from Oscar. Because if Floyd hit like a girl then that would be more on Oscar's fault for not pressing the fight. Something was stopping him from throwing the jab and if Floyd hit like a girl it certainly wasnt the counter right hand that buckled Oscar's knees was it? :)
Re: I thought Mosley beat delahoya far more soundly than floyd did
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I thought mosley beat delahoya far more soundly than floyd did (I really thought floyd lost) in there first fight, he hurt oscar at times, floyd look like he hit like a girl at junior middle
Floyd was not established at 147 nor 154...but he moved up to both & kicked the S*** outta Judah, Baldo, & Oscar.
Mosley's first outting was impressive against Oscar...but he had campaigned much longer in the weight class than Floyd.
The second fight against Mosley...Mosley lost & he knows it!
Floyd did just fine & he beat Oscar convincingly.
I agree PBF kicked the shat outta Zab, but Baldo and ODH??? He outpointed them. Seriously nothing close to a beat down. Outpointed, sure but he didn't beat anybody up. No marks, no blood, going backwards most of the time..... Not a beat down.
I think Shane beat that tar out of ODH the 2nd fight. Sure ODH landed more jabs, but Shane was chasing him and landing hard hard body shots and ODH was bloody beaten and retreating. ODH looked like he wouldn't have survived much longer and Shane looked fresh and unmarked. In my opinion PBF didn't beat ODH convincingly. I felt it could have went either way. I know the flurries didn't land flush but I just don't give much credit to defense first fighters.
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I thought mosley beat delahoya far more soundly than floyd did (I really thought floyd lost) in there first fight, he hurt oscar at times, floyd look like he hit like a girl at junior middle
Floyd was not established at 147 nor 154...but he moved up to both & kicked the S*** outta Judah, Baldo, & Oscar.
Mosley's first outting was impressive against Oscar...but he had campaigned much longer in the weight class than Floyd.
The second fight against Mosley...Mosley lost & he knows it!
Floyd did just fine & he beat Oscar convincingly.
I agree PBF kicked the shat outta Zab, but Baldo and ODH??? He outpointed them. Seriously nothing close to a beat down. Outpointed, sure but he didn't beat anybody up. No marks, no blood, going backwards most of the time..... Not a beat down.
I think Shane beat that tar out of ODH the 2nd fight. Sure ODH landed more jabs, but Shane was chasing him and landing hard hard body shots and ODH was bloody beaten and retreating. ODH looked like he wouldn't have survived much longer and Shane looked fresh and unmarked. In my opinion PBF didn't beat ODH convincingly. I felt it could have went either way. I know the flurries didn't land flush but I just don't give much credit to defense first fighters.
100% agree with that, CC luvfightgame
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I thought mosley beat delahoya far more soundly than floyd did (I really thought floyd lost) in there first fight, he hurt oscar at times, floyd look like he hit like a girl at junior middle
Floyd was not established at 147 nor 154...but he moved up to both & kicked the S*** outta Judah, Baldo, & Oscar.
Mosley's first outting was impressive against Oscar...but he had campaigned much longer in the weight class than Floyd.
The second fight against Mosley...Mosley lost & he knows it!
Floyd did just fine & he beat Oscar convincingly.
True. O0
Re: I thought Mosley beat delahoya far more soundly than floyd did
Mosley landed a lot more punches on De La Hoya, but Floyd won by a bigger margin IMO
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Can anyone think of a great fighter with more questionable decisions in their career than ODH? Whitaker/Quartey/MoselyII/Tito/Sturm/PBF
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I thought mosley beat delahoya far more soundly than floyd did (I really thought floyd lost) in there first fight, he hurt oscar at times, floyd look like he hit like a girl at junior middle
Floyd was not established at 147 nor 154...but he moved up to both & kicked the S*** outta Judah, Baldo, & Oscar.
Mosley's first outting was impressive against Oscar...but he had campaigned much longer in the weight class than Floyd.
The second fight against Mosley...Mosley lost & he knows it!
Floyd did just fine & he beat Oscar convincingly.
I agree PBF kicked the shat outta Zab, but Baldo and ODH??? He outpointed them. Seriously nothing close to a beat down. Outpointed, sure but he didn't beat anybody up. No marks, no blood, going backwards most of the time..... Not a beat down.
I think Shane beat that tar out of ODH the 2nd fight. Sure ODH landed more jabs, but Shane was chasing him and landing hard hard body shots and ODH was bloody beaten and retreating. ODH looked like he wouldn't have survived much longer and Shane looked fresh and unmarked. In my opinion PBF didn't beat ODH convincingly. I felt it could have went either way. I know the flurries didn't land flush but I just don't give much credit to defense first fighters.
100% agree with that, CC luvfightgame
See...this is where some judges go wrong.
A beatdown does not have to equate to blood or drops...sorry boys...he beatdown Baldo & Oscar...just as he did Judah.
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Can anyone think of a great fighter with more questionable decisions in their career than ODH? Whitaker/Quartey/MoselyII/Tito/Sturm/PBF
Sven Ottke?
Re: I thought Mosley beat delahoya far more soundly than floyd did
no hes right! mosely did beat de la hoya far more soundly than floyd did........................IN SPARRING ;D
Re: I thought Mosley beat delahoya far more soundly than floyd did
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Can anyone think of a great fighter with more questionable decisions in their career than ODH? Whitaker/Quartey/MoselyII/Tito/Sturm/PBF
I really don't consider the Floyd fight to be a questionable decision, I thought it was a decisive victory for Floyd.
Not a blowout win, but a clear win.
The other five you listed are all questionable decisions, and all those fights were closer fights than the Floyd fight.
Re: I thought Mosley beat delahoya far more soundly than floyd did
I think Mosley is a stronger guy compared to Floyd, so his advantage in speed could be used against Oscar to win on the inside and dominate. Oscar had no other way to fight, against Floyd, Oscar was stronger and he could be the aggressor and it looks like he did better. Although I am not sure about punchstats with the Mosley fights.
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I thought mosley beat delahoya far more soundly than floyd did (I really thought floyd lost) in there first fight, he hurt oscar at times, floyd look like he hit like a girl at junior middle
Floyd was not established at 147 nor 154...but he moved up to both & kicked the S*** outta Judah, Baldo, & Oscar.
Mosley's first outting was impressive against Oscar...but he had campaigned much longer in the weight class than Floyd.
The second fight against Mosley...Mosley lost & he knows it!
Floyd did just fine & he beat Oscar convincingly.
I agree PBF kicked the shat outta Zab, but Baldo and ODH??? He outpointed them. Seriously nothing close to a beat down. Outpointed, sure but he didn't beat anybody up. No marks, no blood, going backwards most of the time..... Not a beat down.
I think Shane beat that tar out of ODH the 2nd fight. Sure ODH landed more jabs, but Shane was chasing him and landing hard hard body shots and ODH was bloody beaten and retreating. ODH looked like he wouldn't have survived much longer and Shane looked fresh and unmarked. In my opinion PBF didn't beat ODH convincingly. I felt it could have went either way. I know the flurries didn't land flush but I just don't give much credit to defense first fighters.
100% agree with that, CC luvfightgame
See...this is where some judges go wrong.
A beatdown does not have to equate to blood or drops...sorry boys...he beatdown Baldo & Oscar...just as he did Judah.
CC 2882
Re: I thought Mosley beat delahoya far more soundly than floyd did
I had the first Mosely fight 116-112 and in my opinion that was a prime Mosely
2nd Fight Oscar was robbed - not even debatable in my book. Mosely was amazed when he got the verdict
Finally - I had PBF beating Oscar 7 rounds to 5, by virtue of winning the last 4.
