Re: Mundine to upset Kessler?
yo alot of people underestimate mundines ability! he was inexperienced the first time he met kessler and still gave him problems, i have no doubt that mudines improved boxing skills would dethrone kessler if they meet again. I mean take green for example, one of the hardest super middles around(anyone see green spar james toney)?..... its good though to see a lot of people finnally give mundine the respect he deserves....but there a few haters on here, the ones who have know idea who danny green and antwan echols are ???
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Originally Posted by Troy McClure
yo alot of people underestimate mundines ability! he was inexperienced the first time he met kessler and still gave him problems, i have no doubt that mudines improved boxing skills would dethrone kessler if they meet again. I mean take green for example, one of the hardest super middles around(anyone see green spar james toney)?..... its good though to see a lot of people finnally give mundine the respect he deserves....but there a few haters on here, the ones who have know idea who danny green and antwan echols are ???
There aren't any haters in this thread really.
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Originally Posted by Troy McClure
yo alot of people underestimate mundines ability! he was inexperienced the first time he met kessler and still gave him problems, i have no doubt that mudines improved boxing skills would dethrone kessler if they meet again. I mean take green for example, one of the hardest super middles around(anyone see green spar james toney)?..... its good though to see a lot of people finnally give mundine the respect he deserves....but there a few haters on here, the ones who have know idea who danny green and antwan echols are ???
There aren't any haters in this thread really.
im talking about the whole furum and there is quite a few haters....
theres not many people on line right now but wait until they see this thread ;D
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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yo alot of people underestimate mundines ability! he was inexperienced the first time he met kessler and still gave him problems, i have no doubt that mudines improved boxing skills would dethrone kessler if they meet again. I mean take green for example, one of the hardest super middles around(anyone see green spar james toney)?..... its good though to see a lot of people finnally give mundine the respect he deserves....but there a few haters on here, the ones who have know idea who danny green and antwan echols are ???
There aren't any haters in this thread really.
im talking about the whole furum and there is quite a few haters....
theres not many people on line right now but wait until they see this thread ;D
Yeah I did see a few actually. It's silly really, because Mundine is clearly a challenger. By the same token, so is Froch.
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Has the whole world gone mad? Mundine cannot and will not beat Kessler in a rematch!!!!
He has good skills and is fast and accurate with his punches but isn't in the same class as Kessler and Calzaghe.
You obviously know little about boxing....
Really? I wonder what happened to me? I have seen nearly all of Mundine's fights. I do
live in Oz so it isn't hard to catch him here. My uninformed opinion still stands, Kessler will blow him away in a rematch! Calzaghe would do the same. I do give Mundine a lot of credit but those two guys are a cut above him. Kessler has already proved it once!
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Only way Mundine upsets Kessler is if he gives him some bad news like Calzaghe still dare'nt fight you :'(
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Has the whole world gone mad? Mundine cannot and will not beat Kessler in a rematch!!!!
He has good skills and is fast and accurate with his punches but isn't in the same class as Kessler and Calzaghe.
You obviously know little about boxing....
Really? I wonder what happened to me? I have seen nearly all of Mundine's fights. I do
live in Oz so it isn't hard to catch him here. My uninformed opinion still stands, Kessler will blow him away in a rematch! Calzaghe would do the same. I do give Mundine a lot of credit but those two guys are a cut above him. Kessler has already proved it once!
So he gives Kessler a reasonably close fight first time out, improves lots, beats two top 3 ranked guys in Green and Soliman easily yet he'll get beaten worse in the rematch...... Makes total sense.......Soliman went the distance with Winky Wright and Mundine made Sam look like a bum....
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Has the whole world gone mad? Mundine cannot and will not beat Kessler in a rematch!!!!
He has good skills and is fast and accurate with his punches but isn't in the same class as Kessler and Calzaghe.
You obviously know little about boxing....
Really? I wonder what happened to me? I have seen nearly all of Mundine's fights. I do
live in Oz so it isn't hard to catch him here. My uninformed opinion still stands, Kessler will blow him away in a rematch! Calzaghe would do the same. I do give Mundine a lot of credit but those two guys are a cut above him. Kessler has already proved it once!
So he gives Kessler a reasonably close fight first time out, improves lots, beats two top 3 ranked guys in Green and Soliman easily yet he'll get beaten worse in the rematch...... Makes total sense.......Soliman went the distance with Winky Wright and Mundine made Sam look like a bum....
So you don't think Kessler has improved too? His demolition of Beyer was awesome, something Danny Green couldn't do. Soliman was a blown up Middleweight and in reality Mundine did what he should have to Soliman and beat him easily. I read where Soliman wants to fight at 154 now! I'm not doubting Mundine's ability to give these guys a good fight but i don't think he can beat them. IMO
I think his best chance is at Middleweight, where he will lose those extra pounds i don't know because he is always in great shape. I would rather see him fight Taylor and Abraham than Kessler again.
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Has the whole world gone mad? Mundine cannot and will not beat Kessler in a rematch!!!!
He has good skills and is fast and accurate with his punches but isn't in the same class as Kessler and Calzaghe.
You obviously know little about boxing....
Really? I wonder what happened to me? I have seen nearly all of Mundine's fights. I do
live in Oz so it isn't hard to catch him here. My uninformed opinion still stands, Kessler will blow him away in a rematch! Calzaghe would do the same. I do give Mundine a lot of credit but those two guys are a cut above him. Kessler has already proved it once!
So he gives Kessler a reasonably close fight first time out, improves lots, beats two top 3 ranked guys in Green and Soliman easily yet he'll get beaten worse in the rematch...... Makes total sense.......Soliman went the distance with Winky Wright and Mundine made Sam look like a bum....
So you don't think Kessler has improved too? His demolition of Beyer was awesome, something Danny Green couldn't do. Soliman was a blown up Middleweight and in reality Mundine did what he should have to Soliman and beat him easily. I read where Soliman wants to fight at 154 now! I'm not doubting Mundine's ability to give these guys a good fight but i don't think he can beat them. IMO
I think his best chance is at Middleweight, where he will lose those extra pounds i don't know because he is always in great shape. I would rather see him fight Taylor and Abraham than Kessler again.
In Greens first fight against Beyer he knocked down Beyer three times then got a dodgy German dq. Beyer was a bum who got protected by German judges. Soliman is a good fighter and hard to beat. Name one other person who has looked as good as Mundine against Sam? Nobody has.
I think Mundine has improved more than Kessler. Yes i think Kessler will win, but in his toughest fight yet and i probably give Mundine a 30% chance of victory.
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Mundine to upset Kessler?
What's he gonna do? Sneak into his local eatery & switch a medium steak with a rare one?
I mean...that'd upset me.
Maybe Mundine is gonna put pepper in Kessler's tea...or whatever 'dem Dane's drink...heh heh heh.
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Mundine to upset Kessler?
What's he gonna do? Sneak into his local eatery & switch a medium steak with a rare one?
I mean...that'd upset me.
Maybe Mundine is gonna put pepper in Kessler's tea...or whatever 'dem Dane's drink...heh heh heh.
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No need for sarcasm...... ;D
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Has the whole world gone mad? Mundine cannot and will not beat Kessler in a rematch!!!!
He has good skills and is fast and accurate with his punches but isn't in the same class as Kessler and Calzaghe.
You obviously know little about boxing....
Really? I wonder what happened to me? I have seen nearly all of Mundine's fights. I do
live in Oz so it isn't hard to catch him here. My uninformed opinion still stands, Kessler will blow him away in a rematch! Calzaghe would do the same. I do give Mundine a lot of credit but those two guys are a cut above him. Kessler has already proved it once!
So he gives Kessler a reasonably close fight first time out, improves lots, beats two top 3 ranked guys in Green and Soliman easily yet he'll get beaten worse in the rematch...... Makes total sense.......Soliman went the distance with Winky Wright and Mundine made Sam look like a bum....
So you don't think Kessler has improved too? His demolition of Beyer was awesome, something Danny Green couldn't do. Soliman was a blown up Middleweight and in reality Mundine did what he should have to Soliman and beat him easily. I read where Soliman wants to fight at 154 now! I'm not doubting Mundine's ability to give these guys a good fight but i don't think he can beat them. IMO
I think his best chance is at Middleweight, where he will lose those extra pounds i don't know because he is always in great shape. I would rather see him fight Taylor and Abraham than Kessler again.
In Greens first fight against Beyer he knocked down Beyer three times then got a dodgy German dq. Beyer was a bum who got protected by German judges. Soliman is a good fighter and hard to beat. Name one other person who has looked as good as Mundine against Sam? Nobody has.
I think Mundine has improved more than Kessler. Yes i think Kessler will win, but in his toughest fight yet and i probably give Mundine a 30% chance of victory.
You're a hard man eagle, Beyer a bum? He sure gave Danny boy a boxing lesson in fight number 2. Interesting to note that i thought Green lost round 4 and was losing round 5 of the first fight thus the stupid head butt frustration that led to his legitimate DQ.
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Has the whole world gone mad? Mundine cannot and will not beat Kessler in a rematch!!!!
He has good skills and is fast and accurate with his punches but isn't in the same class as Kessler and Calzaghe.
You obviously know little about boxing....
Really? I wonder what happened to me? I have seen nearly all of Mundine's fights. I do
live in Oz so it isn't hard to catch him here. My uninformed opinion still stands, Kessler will blow him away in a rematch! Calzaghe would do the same. I do give Mundine a lot of credit but those two guys are a cut above him. Kessler has already proved it once!
So he gives Kessler a reasonably close fight first time out, improves lots, beats two top 3 ranked guys in Green and Soliman easily yet he'll get beaten worse in the rematch...... Makes total sense.......Soliman went the distance with Winky Wright and Mundine made Sam look like a bum....
So you don't think Kessler has improved too? His demolition of Beyer was awesome, something Danny Green couldn't do. Soliman was a blown up Middleweight and in reality Mundine did what he should have to Soliman and beat him easily. I read where Soliman wants to fight at 154 now! I'm not doubting Mundine's ability to give these guys a good fight but i don't think he can beat them. IMO
I think his best chance is at Middleweight, where he will lose those extra pounds i don't know because he is always in great shape. I would rather see him fight Taylor and Abraham than Kessler again.
In Greens first fight against Beyer he knocked down Beyer three times then got a dodgy German dq. Beyer was a bum who got protected by German judges. Soliman is a good fighter and hard to beat. Name one other person who has looked as good as Mundine against Sam? Nobody has.
I think Mundine has improved more than Kessler. Yes i think Kessler will win, but in his toughest fight yet and i probably give Mundine a 30% chance of victory.
You're a hard man eagle, Beyer a bum? He sure gave Danny boy a boxing lesson in fight number 2. Interesting to note that i thought Green lost round 4 and was losing round 5 of the first fight thus the stupid head butt frustration that led to his legitimate DQ.
Maybe calling him a bum was harsh. But there was no way that was a dq, and if he hadnt got that home town ludicrous decision i feel he would have lost that fight and been downgraded to a journeyman quickly......
Green lost his way by the time of their second fight and had too much trouble making weight. And in the second fight danny lost an MD in Germany..... That more than likely means a win in any other nation on the planet......
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Has the whole world gone mad? Mundine cannot and will not beat Kessler in a rematch!!!!
He has good skills and is fast and accurate with his punches but isn't in the same class as Kessler and Calzaghe.
You obviously know little about boxing....
Really? I wonder what happened to me? I have seen nearly all of Mundine's fights. I do
live in Oz so it isn't hard to catch him here. My uninformed opinion still stands, Kessler will blow him away in a rematch! Calzaghe would do the same. I do give Mundine a lot of credit but those two guys are a cut above him. Kessler has already proved it once!
So he gives Kessler a reasonably close fight first time out, improves lots, beats two top 3 ranked guys in Green and Soliman easily yet he'll get beaten worse in the rematch...... Makes total sense.......Soliman went the distance with Winky Wright and Mundine made Sam look like a bum....
So you don't think Kessler has improved too? His demolition of Beyer was awesome, something Danny Green couldn't do. Soliman was a blown up Middleweight and in reality Mundine did what he should have to Soliman and beat him easily. I read where Soliman wants to fight at 154 now! I'm not doubting Mundine's ability to give these guys a good fight but i don't think he can beat them. IMO
I think his best chance is at Middleweight, where he will lose those extra pounds i don't know because he is always in great shape. I would rather see him fight Taylor and Abraham than Kessler again.
In Greens first fight against Beyer he knocked down Beyer three times then got a dodgy German dq. Beyer was a bum who got protected by German judges. Soliman is a good fighter and hard to beat. Name one other person who has looked as good as Mundine against Sam? Nobody has.
I think Mundine has improved more than Kessler. Yes i think Kessler will win, but in his toughest fight yet and i probably give Mundine a 30% chance of victory.
You're a hard man eagle, Beyer a bum? He sure gave Danny boy a boxing lesson in fight number 2. Interesting to note that i thought Green lost round 4 and was losing round 5 of the first fight thus the stupid head butt frustration that led to his legitimate DQ.
Maybe calling him a bum was harsh. But there was no way that was a dq, and if he hadnt got that home town ludicrous decision i feel he would have lost that fight and been downgraded to a journeyman quickly......
Green lost his way by the time of their second fight and had too much trouble making weight. And in the second fight danny lost an MD in Germany..... That more than likely means a win in any other nation on the planet......
Mate, when i was watching that fight and Green snotted him with the head butt i knew he was gone. It was a moment of madness that i'm sure Danny Green regrets, i can't understand why he did it. You can't deliberately headbutt your opponent and expect to get away with it. I was dissapointed he lost but those are the rules and Danny thought it was the local pub he was fighting in and not a professional boxing ring.
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Has the whole world gone mad? Mundine cannot and will not beat Kessler in a rematch!!!!
He has good skills and is fast and accurate with his punches but isn't in the same class as Kessler and Calzaghe.
You obviously know little about boxing....
Really? I wonder what happened to me? I have seen nearly all of Mundine's fights. I do
live in Oz so it isn't hard to catch him here. My uninformed opinion still stands, Kessler will blow him away in a rematch! Calzaghe would do the same. I do give Mundine a lot of credit but those two guys are a cut above him. Kessler has already proved it once!
So he gives Kessler a reasonably close fight first time out, improves lots, beats two top 3 ranked guys in Green and Soliman easily yet he'll get beaten worse in the rematch...... Makes total sense.......Soliman went the distance with Winky Wright and Mundine made Sam look like a bum....
So you don't think Kessler has improved too? His demolition of Beyer was awesome, something Danny Green couldn't do. Soliman was a blown up Middleweight and in reality Mundine did what he should have to Soliman and beat him easily. I read where Soliman wants to fight at 154 now! I'm not doubting Mundine's ability to give these guys a good fight but i don't think he can beat them. IMO
I think his best chance is at Middleweight, where he will lose those extra pounds i don't know because he is always in great shape. I would rather see him fight Taylor and Abraham than Kessler again.
In Greens first fight against Beyer he knocked down Beyer three times then got a dodgy German dq. Beyer was a bum who got protected by German judges. Soliman is a good fighter and hard to beat. Name one other person who has looked as good as Mundine against Sam? Nobody has.
I think Mundine has improved more than Kessler. Yes i think Kessler will win, but in his toughest fight yet and i probably give Mundine a 30% chance of victory.
You're a hard man eagle, Beyer a bum? He sure gave Danny boy a boxing lesson in fight number 2. Interesting to note that i thought Green lost round 4 and was losing round 5 of the first fight thus the stupid head butt frustration that led to his legitimate DQ.
Maybe calling him a bum was harsh. But there was no way that was a dq, and if he hadnt got that home town ludicrous decision i feel he would have lost that fight and been downgraded to a journeyman quickly......
Green lost his way by the time of their second fight and had too much trouble making weight. And in the second fight danny lost an MD in Germany..... That more than likely means a win in any other nation on the planet......
Mate, when i was watching that fight and Green snotted him with the head butt i knew he was gone. It was a moment of madness that i'm sure Danny Green regrets, i can't understand why he did it. You can't deliberately headbutt your opponent and expect to get away with it. I was dissapointed he lost but those are the rules and Danny thought it was the local pub he was fighting in and not a professional boxing ring.
If Beyer had been on top and it wasnt a fight in germany no way he gets dq'ed straight away....