Taylor still top 10 p4p?
The answer is NO!
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Taylor still top 10 p4p?
The answer is NO!
explain plsss....so who do you have top ten p4p? who out their have fought two great fighters in bhop and winky and then two very known game fighters ouma and spinks both of whom came up just recenly winning a title? anyone better then that in their last 5 fights? can't possibly put joe calzagne at top ten and not have j.t. pls list your top ten for me and then we'll talk more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
CC. Julius Rain. I just voted no because taylor is such a bore. :goodpost:
This is very touchy with most people, because he is one fight from being off the list, but one "statement" fight from being top five. With all fairness to his accomplishments, and to his opponents, turn all his close and controversial decisions to draws, and he still hasn't lost to some of the best fighters on the planet, but, he wouldn't be on most peoples' lists. It seems Taylor still needs a career defining fight which sounds ludacris considering who he has fought. If Taylor was to beat, say,Calzaghe convincingly, alot of his slim wins become easier to swallow, but if he loses one of these close fights to a lesser opponent, he will be persecuted. Just some thought about Jermain's situation.
To be fair,(although I question some of the decisions),I vote he stays until HE, is beaten convincingly, because Winky and BHOP are still in the top ten, on most peoples' lists, regardless of their Taylor fights.
p4p list
1) PBF
2) Winky
3) PAC
4) Rafa Marquez
5) Cristian Mijares
6) Juan Manuel Marquez
7) Joe Calzaghe
8) Shane Mosley
9) Wlad Klitschko
10) Miguel Cotto
I took JT of because my opinion of pound for pound is who looks like they are the most unstoppable force all things being equal, weight aside. Just my opinion of course. JT looked VERY beatable and is just biding his time waiting for his downfall IMO.
Still he is the undisputed MW champ which means, he can now start slacking and fight any average Joe that has a fat wallet.
he hasn't lost yet so he should still be there
Personally I never though Taylor was top 10 P4P, but that aside if you had him in there before the Spinks fight, there is no reason to take him off. A win is a win, even it was boring and/or controversial.
Yeh he's stil p4p. IMO a win is a win so until he loses or fringe contenders beat better opposition therefore forcing a shake up, he stays on the list. Just like Hatton should have. There's no right or wrong its just about opinions. Some look at whether or not a fighter wins, some look at how much of a force they look. So i'm done watching Taylor - the only time he got angry was after the fight.......but he's still somehow p4p for now altho that sadly seems to be more down to the judges rather than his ability.
This question depends on how you look at the P4P list. P4P is based on titles, wins and who people defeat. If you agree with how P4P is rated, then he should be there because of his record and the fact that he's successfully defending his title.
However, if you rate P4P as the best 10 best boxers in the sport, then the answer is no, because I think I could name 20 better.
I said yes...He's never lost and has a draw and 2 wins (regardless of how I think those were) against some of the best P4P fighters out today....Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Like I said, arbeit very badly explained, it really does depend on how you rate your P4P.
Do you rate it because of records on paper? (e.g. who people beat, no matter how disputed and how recently they've fought)
Or do you rate it on who you think are the top ten best fighters?
Like I said, I could name 20 guys who I rate higher. But at the same time, you can't argue with a record.