Re: I almost forgot how dominate Lewis Was....
CC for the vid I almost forgot too :laugh:
Re: I almost forgot how dominate Lewis Was....
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Originally Posted by southakron314
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Originally Posted by EastonAssassin
Lewis was a bum. over-rated with a very suspect chin. a fighter can't be "great" and get knockedout by Oliver and Rahman, 2 fighters that will NEVER be considered "great". his biggest wins of his career came against 2 fighters past their prime and most likely should of been retired. a washed up and shell of his former self, Tyson and a old punch drunk Holyfield that he was so scared to engage, it took him 24 rounds to eek out a decision( he actually won the first fight but not impressively). he got a lucky decision against Vitali because of cuts and instead of giving him a rematch like any true "great" champion would, he ran into retirement because what he wanted was a rematch with Tyson. a rematch with a washed up Tyson that he already beat and Tyson wasn't even asking for a rematch. now, does that sound like a "GREAT" fighter? IMO....HELL NO.
You must be crazy.Lennox Lewis was the most underrated champs ever. I think he reteired at 44-2. One loss early in his career and another one I scratch off because he totally redeemed it. He was a great champ and he deserves no less than that.
41 wins(ko's)2 loses and 1 draw 44 total. actually. ;)
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In a weak era of Heavyweight champs i guess Lewis was the best of a very average lot of HW's.
He didn't fight Bowe? Lost to a couple of journeymen and may have got stiffed in the first Holyfield fight but didin't win a round until round 9 of the second fight and gets a UD!! Let's not get carried away here, he is not a top 10 all time great Heavyweight champion.
Re: I almost forgot how dominate Lewis Was....
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
In a weak era of Heavyweight champs i guess Lewis was the best of a very average lot of HW's.
He didn't fight Bowe? Lost to a couple of journeymen and may have got stiffed in the first Holyfield fight but didin't win a round until round 9 of the second fight and gets a UD!! Let's not get carried away here, he is not a top 10 all time great Heavyweight champion.
I dunno mate, he fought some tough guys and has beat every man he ever faced in the ring in his pro career. Maybe top 20 then thinking about it :-\
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
In a weak era of Heavyweight champs i guess Lewis was the best of a very average lot of HW's.
He didn't fight Bowe? Lost to a couple of journeymen and may have got stiffed in the first Holyfield fight but didin't win a round until round 9 of the second fight and gets a UD!! Let's not get carried away here, he is not a top 10 all time great Heavyweight champion.
90s Hws are probably the 2nd strongest hw era ever.
Re: I almost forgot how dominate Lewis Was....
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
In a weak era of Heavyweight champs i guess Lewis was the best of a very average lot of HW's.
He didn't fight Bowe? Lost to a couple of journeymen and may have got stiffed in the first Holyfield fight but didin't win a round until round 9 of the second fight and gets a UD!! Let's not get carried away here, he is not a top 10 all time great Heavyweight champion.
90s Hws are probably the 2nd strongest hw era ever.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that one, the 90's Hw's were as exciting as watching concrete set!
Re: I almost forgot how dominate Lewis Was....
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
In a weak era of Heavyweight champs i guess Lewis was the best of a very average lot of HW's.
He didn't fight Bowe? Lost to a couple of journeymen and may have got stiffed in the first Holyfield fight but didin't win a round until round 9 of the second fight and gets a UD!! Let's not get carried away here, he is not a top 10 all time great Heavyweight champion.
I dunno mate, he fought some tough guys and has beat every man he ever faced in the ring in his pro career. Maybe top 20 then thinking about it :-\
Got that right. +1. Top 20 easy.
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How can you say the 90's were boring.Holyfield,Lewis,Tua,Tyson,Morrision. Them are some pretty hard hitters.Hell George Foreman came back.
Re: I almost forgot how dominate Lewis Was....
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
In a weak era of Heavyweight champs i guess Lewis was the best of a very average lot of HW's.
He didn't fight Bowe? Lost to a couple of journeymen and may have got stiffed in the first Holyfield fight but didin't win a round until round 9 of the second fight and gets a UD!! Let's not get carried away here, he is not a top 10 all time great Heavyweight champion.
90s Hws are probably the 2nd strongest hw era ever.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that one, the 90's Hw's were as exciting as watching concrete set!
Bowe vs Holyfield 1 2 3
Bowe vs Golota 1 2
Lewis vs Mercer
Bert Cooper vs Michael Moorer the 90s Foreman vs Lyle
Bert Cooper vs Evander Holyfield
Alex Stewart vs Evander Holyfield
Razor Ruddock vs Mike Tyson 1 2
Razor Ruddock vs Tommy Morrison
Buster Douglas vs Mike Tyson
Evander Holyfield vs Mike Tyson
Tua vs Ike
Foreman vs Holyfield
Your telling me these wern't exciting ?? 90s hws were probably 2nd strongest and probably had one of the most exciting fights in any era of the hws.
Re: I almost forgot how dominate Lewis Was....
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
In a weak era of Heavyweight champs i guess Lewis was the best of a very average lot of HW's.
He didn't fight Bowe? Lost to a couple of journeymen and may have got stiffed in the first Holyfield fight but didin't win a round until round 9 of the second fight and gets a UD!! Let's not get carried away here, he is not a top 10 all time great Heavyweight champion.
90s Hws are probably the 2nd strongest hw era ever.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that one, the 90's Hw's were as exciting as watching concrete set!
Bowe vs Holyfield 1 2 3
Bowe vs Golota 1 2
Lewis vs Mercer
Bert Cooper vs Michael Moorer the 90s Foreman vs Lyle
Bert Cooper vs Evander Holyfield
Alex Stewart vs Evander Holyfield
Razor Ruddock vs Mike Tyson 1 2
Razor Ruddock vs Tommy Morrison
Buster Douglas vs Mike Tyson
Evander Holyfield vs Mike Tyson
Tua vs Ike
Foreman vs Holyfield
Your telling me these wern't exciting ?? 90s hws were probably 2nd strongest and probably had one of the most exciting fights in any era of the hws.
+1 right back atcha. I cant right now it says I have to wait 24 hours. I must have hit you up earlier. I remeber tommorow.
Re: I almost forgot how dominate Lewis Was....
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
In a weak era of Heavyweight champs i guess Lewis was the best of a very average lot of HW's.
He didn't fight Bowe? Lost to a couple of journeymen and may have got stiffed in the first Holyfield fight but didin't win a round until round 9 of the second fight and gets a UD!! Let's not get carried away here, he is not a top 10 all time great Heavyweight champion.
HE DIDN'T FIGHT BOWE???............I SEEM TO REMEMEBR LEWIS CALLING BOWE OUT EVERY CHANCE HE GOT AND BOWE THROWING THE TITLE IN THE TRASH CAN TO AVOID A FIGHT WITH LENNOX!!!!
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Originally Posted by EastonAssassin
Lewis was a bum. over-rated with a very suspect chin.
I don't think so on the suspect chin. You don't have to have a weak chin for any heavyweight to be able to knock you out. You just have to get hit ... I never saw his fight with Oliver but have seen the first fight with Rahman a few times. What was suspect for Lewis in that fight was his preparation and his defense.
I would guess very few heavyweights would be able to take that particular punch from Rahman without dire results.
I did see Lewis' fight against Bruno recently and was a bit surprised at how sloppy he looked ... not physically sloppy as in out of shape, but a bit wild and inaccurate. Most of his fights that I have seen, though, were his later fights and he always impressed me with his precision.
Re: I almost forgot how dominate Lewis Was....
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
In a weak era of Heavyweight champs i guess Lewis was the best of a very average lot of HW's.
He didn't fight Bowe? Lost to a couple of journeymen and may have got stiffed in the first Holyfield fight but didin't win a round until round 9 of the second fight and gets a UD!! Let's not get carried away here, he is not a top 10 all time great Heavyweight champion.
90s Hws are probably the 2nd strongest hw era ever.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that one, the 90's Hw's were as exciting as watching concrete set!
Bowe vs Holyfield 1 2 3
Bowe vs Golota 1 2
Lewis vs Mercer
Bert Cooper vs Michael Moorer the 90s Foreman vs Lyle
Bert Cooper vs Evander Holyfield
Alex Stewart vs Evander Holyfield
Razor Ruddock vs Mike Tyson 1 2
Razor Ruddock vs Tommy Morrison
Buster Douglas vs Mike Tyson
Evander Holyfield vs Mike Tyson
Tua vs Ike
Foreman vs Holyfield
Your telling me these wern't exciting ?? 90s hws were probably 2nd strongest and probably had one of the most exciting fights in any era of the hws.
You always make a good argument! Maybe it's the zeroes that are boring!
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Originally Posted by NuthaPug
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Originally Posted by EastonAssassin
Lewis was a bum. over-rated with a very suspect chin.
I don't think so on the suspect chin. You don't have to have a weak chin for any heavyweight to be able to knock you out. You just have to get hit ... I never saw his fight with Oliver but have seen the first fight with Rahman a few times. What was suspect for Lewis in that fight was his preparation and his defense.
I would guess very few heavyweights would be able to take that particular punch from Rahman without dire results.
I did see Lewis' fight against Bruno recently and was a bit surprised at how sloppy he looked ... not physically sloppy as in out of shape, but a bit wild and inaccurate. Most of his fights that I have seen, though, were his later fights and he always impressed me with his precision.
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Re: I almost forgot how dominate Lewis Was....
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Originally Posted by NuthaPug
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Originally Posted by EastonAssassin
Lewis was a bum. over-rated with a very suspect chin.
I don't think so on the suspect chin. You don't have to have a weak chin for any heavyweight to be able to knock you out. You just have to get hit ... I never saw his fight with Oliver but have seen the first fight with Rahman a few times. What was suspect for Lewis in that fight was his preparation and his defense.
I would guess very few heavyweights would be able to take that particular punch from Rahman without dire results.
I did see Lewis' fight against Bruno recently and was a bit surprised at how sloppy he looked ... not physically sloppy as in out of shape, but a bit wild and inaccurate. Most of his fights that I have seen, though, were his later fights and he always impressed me with his precision.
His balance in Bruno fight was bad.
