Re: WHO WAS THE MOST RESPECTFUL BOXER?
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Holmes called Tyson a SOB that is'nt respectful
Except Tyson really was one
If a fighter is put under that kind of constant downplaying,that kind of constant disrespect,and thats the worst that comes out of his mouth,thats a pretty respectful guy.
Try to picture Holmes,taunting a guy
Try to picture Holmes dancing around the ring like an idiot after a KO
Hard to do isnt it?
Strictly buisness
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Originally Posted by Chris N.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Jim Braddock
Sorry to disappoint you but he's not like the movies. I remember reading about his fight with Tommy Loughran and this guy was saying every dirty curse word there was. Tommy Loughran was a nice guy, honorable and didn't never had anything bad to say. Max Baer was a lot better than the movie portrayed of him.
In regards to himility Rocky Marciano was never boisterous, was a very humble and a very respecting fighter; although he was pretty rough and viscious when it came to his punches.
Larry Holmes didn't have a lot of respect for his opponents, or fighters and trainers before him, but he was strictly business. He did however had a lot of pressure on him that affected him greatly.
Oscar Delahoya knows how play the camera but when behind the scenes he doesn't have the nicest things to say.
I agree that Kostya Tszyu had the mannerisms and respect as the champ that he was. Shane Mosely, and Arguello were good people as well.
Thinking about it besides the images that they portray even fighters that played it mean were good respecting guys. If you know the story between Roberto Duran and his nemisis Estaban DeJesus, Duran went to pay his respects to him while he was in the joint.
He (Holmes) didn't have a lot of respect for white fighters, either, and incessantly whined about not getting enough respect 'cause he was black. Never could stand him, and was ecstatic when Tyson KTFO'ed him.
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
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Originally Posted by Chris N.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Jim Braddock
Sorry to disappoint you but he's not like the movies. I remember reading about his fight with Tommy Loughran and this guy was saying every dirty curse word there was. Tommy Loughran was a nice guy, honorable and didn't never had anything bad to say. Max Baer was a lot better than the movie portrayed of him.
In regards to himility Rocky Marciano was never boisterous, was a very humble and a very respecting fighter; although he was pretty rough and viscious when it came to his punches.
Larry Holmes didn't have a lot of respect for his opponents, or fighters and trainers before him, but he was strictly business. He did however had a lot of pressure on him that affected him greatly.
Oscar Delahoya knows how play the camera but when behind the scenes he doesn't have the nicest things to say.
I agree that Kostya Tszyu had the mannerisms and respect as the champ that he was. Shane Mosely, and Arguello were good people as well.
Thinking about it besides the images that they portray even fighters that played it mean were good respecting guys. If you know the story between Roberto Duran and his nemisis Estaban DeJesus, Duran went to pay his respects to him while he was in the joint.
He (Holmes) didn't have a lot of respect for white fighters, either, and incessantly whined about not getting enough respect 'cause he was black. Never could stand him, and was ecstatic when Tyson KTFO'ed him.
President Reagan had a phone installed in Cooney's dressing room to congratulate him on his victory over Holmes
There wasnt one in Holmes dressing room
He respected Cooney plenty,and has actually become very good friends with him,and is the leading contributor to Cooneys FIST charity
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SUGAR SHANE,
THE second George Foreman,
Evander holyfield,
Ricky hatton,
Re: WHO WAS THE MOST RESPECTFUL BOXER?
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
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Originally Posted by Chris N.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Jim Braddock
Sorry to disappoint you but he's not like the movies. I remember reading about his fight with Tommy Loughran and this guy was saying every dirty curse word there was. Tommy Loughran was a nice guy, honorable and didn't never had anything bad to say. Max Baer was a lot better than the movie portrayed of him.
In regards to himility Rocky Marciano was never boisterous, was a very humble and a very respecting fighter; although he was pretty rough and viscious when it came to his punches.
Larry Holmes didn't have a lot of respect for his opponents, or fighters and trainers before him, but he was strictly business. He did however had a lot of pressure on him that affected him greatly.
Oscar Delahoya knows how play the camera but when behind the scenes he doesn't have the nicest things to say.
I agree that Kostya Tszyu had the mannerisms and respect as the champ that he was. Shane Mosely, and Arguello were good people as well.
Thinking about it besides the images that they portray even fighters that played it mean were good respecting guys. If you know the story between Roberto Duran and his nemisis Estaban DeJesus, Duran went to pay his respects to him while he was in the joint.
He (Holmes) didn't have a lot of respect for white fighters, either, and incessantly whined about not getting enough respect 'cause he was black. Never could stand him, and was ecstatic when Tyson KTFO'ed him.
President Reagan had a phone installed in Cooney's dressing room to congratulate him on his victory over Holmes
There wasnt one in Holmes dressing room
He respected Cooney plenty,and has actually become very good friends with him,and is the leading contributor to Cooneys FIST charity
I read about that. He may said a lot of things but despite the pressure the press was giving him he was good guy. I also talked to him on his message board, really nice to talk to.
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
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Originally Posted by Chris N.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Jim Braddock
Sorry to disappoint you but he's not like the movies. I remember reading about his fight with Tommy Loughran and this guy was saying every dirty curse word there was. Tommy Loughran was a nice guy, honorable and didn't never had anything bad to say. Max Baer was a lot better than the movie portrayed of him.
In regards to himility Rocky Marciano was never boisterous, was a very humble and a very respecting fighter; although he was pretty rough and viscious when it came to his punches.
Larry Holmes didn't have a lot of respect for his opponents, or fighters and trainers before him, but he was strictly business. He did however had a lot of pressure on him that affected him greatly.
Oscar Delahoya knows how play the camera but when behind the scenes he doesn't have the nicest things to say.
I agree that Kostya Tszyu had the mannerisms and respect as the champ that he was. Shane Mosely, and Arguello were good people as well.
Thinking about it besides the images that they portray even fighters that played it mean were good respecting guys. If you know the story between Roberto Duran and his nemisis Estaban DeJesus, Duran went to pay his respects to him while he was in the joint.
He (Holmes) didn't have a lot of respect for white fighters, either, and incessantly whined about not getting enough respect 'cause he was black. Never could stand him, and was ecstatic when Tyson KTFO'ed him.
President Reagan had a phone installed in Cooney's dressing room to congratulate him on his victory over Holmes
There wasnt one in Holmes dressing room
He respected Cooney plenty,and has actually become very good friends with him,and is the leading contributor to Cooneys FIST charity
I didn't say REAGAN was respectful (or not secretely bigoted, maybe), only that Holmes WASN'T. He may have befriended Cooney after their fight, but he still constantly bitched and moaned about how he got disrespected, or not praised enough because he was black. IMO, he was a total bigot himself. And his comment about Marciano was utterly disgraceful. My image of him will always be that of a bitter, surly man. Probably following in the steps of Ali didn't help matters, either.
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That was a lot pressure on him, and when he made that comment about Marciano his record was 48-0. I thought he was good professional fighter, but I didn't like hearining his comments either.
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Originally Posted by Chris N.
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
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Originally Posted by Chris N.
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Jim Braddock
Sorry to disappoint you but he's not like the movies. I remember reading about his fight with Tommy Loughran and this guy was saying every dirty curse word there was. Tommy Loughran was a nice guy, honorable and didn't never had anything bad to say. Max Baer was a lot better than the movie portrayed of him.
In regards to himility Rocky Marciano was never boisterous, was a very humble and a very respecting fighter; although he was pretty rough and viscious when it came to his punches.
Larry Holmes didn't have a lot of respect for his opponents, or fighters and trainers before him, but he was strictly business. He did however had a lot of pressure on him that affected him greatly.
Oscar Delahoya knows how play the camera but when behind the scenes he doesn't have the nicest things to say.
I agree that Kostya Tszyu had the mannerisms and respect as the champ that he was. Shane Mosely, and Arguello were good people as well.
Thinking about it besides the images that they portray even fighters that played it mean were good respecting guys. If you know the story between Roberto Duran and his nemisis Estaban DeJesus, Duran went to pay his respects to him while he was in the joint.
He (Holmes) didn't have a lot of respect for white fighters, either, and incessantly whined about not getting enough respect 'cause he was black. Never could stand him, and was ecstatic when Tyson KTFO'ed him.
President Reagan had a phone installed in Cooney's dressing room to congratulate him on his victory over Holmes
There wasnt one in Holmes dressing room
He respected Cooney plenty,and has actually become very good friends with him,and is the leading contributor to Cooneys FIST charity
I read about that. He may said a lot of things but despite the pressure the press was giving him he was good guy. I also talked to him on his message board, really nice to talk to.
Although most of the racial hype on that fight,probably can be laid at Don Kings doorstep(he certainly got the ball rolling) the press ate up the Great White Hope aspect,loved it
Here was the great white hunter that was going to beat up that ape from Easton
It was an ugly damned atmosphere,and to both Cooney,and Holmes credit,they emerged from that mess as friends,with mutual respect for each other
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Jim Braddock
Nice choice :coolclick:
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Yes, Duran showed max. respect to De Jesus when he was dying of AIDS... at a time when everybody was afraid of even shaking hands with somebody who had it. Duran went to visit him in hospital and kissed him. When DeJesus died a few days later Duran wept. The real Duran was not the near-animal that the press made him out to be - he was (and still is) a very caring and generous man who gave most of his money to poor Panamanians who needed it more than he did. Inside the ring it was a different matter, however!! Duran probably showed De Jesus so much respect because he knew that De Jesus had beaten him, and anybody who could do that at the time deserved all the respect in the world!!
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Yes, Duran showed max. respect to De Jesus when he was dying of AIDS... at a time when everybody was afraid of even shaking hands with somebody who had it. Duran went to visit him in hospital and kissed him. When DeJesus died a few days later Duran wept. The real Duran was not the near-animal that the press made him out to be - he was (and still is) a very caring and generous man who gave most of his money to poor Panamanians who needed it more than he did. Inside the ring it was a different matter, however!! Duran probably showed De Jesus so much respect because he knew that De Jesus had beaten him, and anybody who could do that at the time deserved all the respect in the world!!
CC, Dav, for saying exactly how it was. Good info for the general forum population.
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
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Originally Posted by Chris N.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Jim Braddock
Sorry to disappoint you but he's not like the movies. I remember reading about his fight with Tommy Loughran and this guy was saying every dirty curse word there was. Tommy Loughran was a nice guy, honorable and didn't never had anything bad to say. Max Baer was a lot better than the movie portrayed of him.
In regards to himility Rocky Marciano was never boisterous, was a very humble and a very respecting fighter; although he was pretty rough and viscious when it came to his punches.
Larry Holmes didn't have a lot of respect for his opponents, or fighters and trainers before him, but he was strictly business. He did however had a lot of pressure on him that affected him greatly.
Oscar Delahoya knows how play the camera but when behind the scenes he doesn't have the nicest things to say.
I agree that Kostya Tszyu had the mannerisms and respect as the champ that he was. Shane Mosely, and Arguello were good people as well.
Thinking about it besides the images that they portray even fighters that played it mean were good respecting guys. If you know the story between Roberto Duran and his nemisis Estaban DeJesus, Duran went to pay his respects to him while he was in the joint.
He (Holmes) didn't have a lot of respect for white fighters, either, and incessantly whined about not getting enough respect 'cause he was black. Never could stand him, and was ecstatic when Tyson KTFO'ed him.
President Reagan had a phone installed in Cooney's dressing room to congratulate him on his victory over Holmes
There wasnt one in Holmes dressing room
He respected Cooney plenty,and has actually become very good friends with him,and is the leading contributor to Cooneys FIST charity
I didn't say REAGAN was respectful (or not secretely bigoted, maybe), only that Holmes WASN'T. He may have befriended Cooney after their fight, but he still constantly bitched and moaned about how he got disrespected, or not praised enough because he was black. IMO, he was a total bigot himself. And his comment about Marciano was utterly disgraceful. My image of him will always be that of a bitter, surly man. Probably following in the steps of Ali didn't help matters, either.
I agree... although I think Holmes was one of the most underrated heavyweights (although I think most people are now realising how good he actually was), he does tend to bleat on and on about how little respect he got at the time. His remarks about Marciano were a disgrace... even more so when you consider that they were made in front of the Marciano family who had gone to the fight to congratulate Holmes on equalling Rocky's record. They were prepared to show Holmes that much respect and all they got by way of thanks was a kick in the teeth from a sore loser.
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Jim Braddock
Sorry to disappoint you but he's not like the movies. I remember reading about his fight with Tommy Loughran and this guy was saying every dirty curse word there was. Tommy Loughran was a nice guy, honorable and didn't never had anything bad to say. Max Baer was a lot better than the movie portrayed of him.
In regards to himility Rocky Marciano was never boisterous, was a very humble and a very respecting fighter; although he was pretty rough and viscious when it came to his punches.
Larry Holmes didn't have a lot of respect for his opponents, or fighters and trainers before him, but he was strictly business. He did however had a lot of pressure on him that affected him greatly.
Oscar Delahoya knows how play the camera but when behind the scenes he doesn't have the nicest things to say.
I agree that Kostya Tszyu had the mannerisms and respect as the champ that he was. Shane Mosely, and Arguello were good people as well.
Thinking about it besides the images that they portray even fighters that played it mean were good respecting guys. If you know the story between Roberto Duran and his nemisis Estaban DeJesus, Duran went to pay his respects to him while he was in the joint.
He (Holmes) didn't have a lot of respect for white fighters, either, and incessantly whined about not getting enough respect 'cause he was black. Never could stand him, and was ecstatic when Tyson KTFO'ed him.
President Reagan had a phone installed in Cooney's dressing room to congratulate him on his victory over Holmes
There wasnt one in Holmes dressing room
He respected Cooney plenty,and has actually become very good friends with him,and is the leading contributor to Cooneys FIST charity
I didn't say REAGAN was respectful (or not secretely bigoted, maybe), only that Holmes WASN'T. He may have befriended Cooney after their fight, but he still constantly bitched and moaned about how he got disrespected, or not praised enough because he was black. IMO, he was a total bigot himself. And his comment about Marciano was utterly disgraceful. My image of him will always be that of a bitter, surly man. Probably following in the steps of Ali didn't help matters, either.
I agree... although I think Holmes was one of the most underrated heavyweights (although I think most people are now realising how good he actually was), he does tend to bleat on and on about how little respect he got at the time. His remarks about Marciano were a disgrace... even more so when you consider that they were made in front of the Marciano family who had gone to the fight to congratulate Holmes on equalling Rocky's record. They were prepared to show Holmes that much respect and all they got by way of thanks was a kick in the teeth from a sore loser.
PRECISELY!! For a new guy, you come up with some very insightful information. Unfortunately, "karma" won't let me CC you for another 24 hours.
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:) Floyd Paterson - all the abuse he took from ALI, and the defeats by Liston he still gave respect to these guys, and his entire life was - with respect. ;)
