Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts
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Originally Posted by zzz
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Why? I like 15 round fights, but is it worth putting extra risk on athletes in an already incredibly dangerous sport? I don't think it is, I'm happy with 10 and 12 rounders. I admire the guys who went 15 rounds because you have to have great stamina and be tough as nails, but I don't think they are necessary.
Is there any evidence that reducing world title fights from 15 to 12 rounds resulted in less ring death or injury? Not that I can see.
Actually there is since the advent of the 12 round championship in the 80's fatalities immediatly decreased
There was no decade before the 80s with less then 90 fatalities,there hasnt been a decade since with more then 72
This decade may change that though,with the increasing popularity of ToughMan style competions
And these fatalities you speak of were in world title fights? Are you sure? Lets make sure we understand the reason for these drops. Might just as easily be due to increased awareness, and nothing at all to do with going to 12 rounds in title fights.
Could be both,lord knows nobody wants to be the ref for the next Kim/Mancini fight.
But as noted by another poster rnds 12-15 are the braindamage rounds,just observational evidence alone suggests that to be true.
Fighters are going further past their primes(in some cases they never had a prime,Kenny Craven)but most dont sound like theyve got a mouth full of marbles when their done
Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts
15 rounders should come back. It would decrease controversial decisions and bring it back to the glory days. And i don't wanna hear the "It will be bad for them to deal with 3 extra rounds of punishment" argument because you can be killed with a single punch. People have died in their first amateur fights from blunt force trauma (single punch) and others have survived thru many 15 rounders and retired without complications. It depends on the person and their health should be closely monitored and i believe they have now more than ever the safest boxing environment to date. As for weigh -ins, they should not be the same day as the fight because dehydration and things a long those lines have added to brain damage so keeping them a few days in advanced is a much better idea.
Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
15 rounders should come back. It would decrease controversial decisions and bring it back to the glory days. And i don't wanna hear the "It will be bad for them to deal with 3 extra rounds of punishment" argument because you can be killed with a single punch. People have died in their first amateur fights from blunt force trauma (single punch) and others have survived thru many 15 rounders and retired without complications. It depends on the person and their health should be closely monitored and i believe they have now more than ever the safest boxing environment to date. As for weigh -ins, they should not be the same day as the fight because dehydration and things a long those lines have added to brain damage so keeping them a few days in advanced is a much better idea.
Name one
Name 1 single fighter who went through numerous 15 rounders whose head was clear at the end
Do you have a single clue what blunt trauma dementia is like?
Andre Waters,a football safety,committed suicide rather then deal with it any more
The autopsy said he had the brain of an 80 year old
He was in his 40s
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People who play in ANY TYPE OF CONTACT SPORT Can suffer from that. Helmet to helmet contact can cause that in football and as i said it differs from person to person and i don't see a problem with bringing back the 15 rounders.
Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
People who play in ANY TYPE OF CONTACT SPORT Can suffer from that. Helmet to helmet contact can cause that in football and as i said it differs from person to person and i don't see a problem with bringing back the 15 rounders.
Theres a mile of difference between CAN suffer it,and demanding they do
Its the difference between a sport,and human dog fighting
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Here is a theory, lets make em 10 rounds. This means fighters have less time to get into a fight and have to go at it from the first bell. This may lead to more excitement and more fans coming back to boxing. no use having 15 rounds if its just two blokes hugging for the last 5.
Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts
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Originally Posted by eagle
Here is a theory, lets make em 10 rounds. This means fighters have less time to get into a fight and have to go at it from the first bell. This may lead to more excitement and more fans coming back to boxing. no use having 15 rounds if its just two blokes hugging for the last 5.
People who have abandoned boxing for mma can stay gone. You either like boxing or you don't you can't suddenly decide that you like it or hate it. And no we need an odd number of rounds for a title fight for clearer decisions. 10 rounds can have a 5-5 draw 12 rounds can have a 6-6 draw but with 13 or 15 its harder to get a draw.
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I'd support 13 round title fights its just one more round. But a lot of supersticious (fuck that word it is too hard to spell) people would object.
Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
I'd support 13 round title fights its just one more round. But a lot of supersticious (F*** that word it is too hard to spell) people would object.
Id be more open to that or 11 for all that matter
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11 is a joke 13 is the bare minimum for a title shot. You're fighting for the most historical titles in sports history. You know the risk you take when you enter the ring or step onto the football field. Thats why it pays so much because you never know when you won't be able to do it anymore.
Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
I'd support 13 round title fights its just one more round. But a lot of supersticious (F*** that word it is too hard to spell) people would object.
For the sake of safety, I would endorse this idea for fights that require a 'tie-breaking' round. If 12 calls it, no need to go the distance. Even if safety wasn't an issue, those extra 9 minutes of fighting will result in an increased time necessary for rest between fights meaning less fights in a given amount of time. Unless you're an early KO artist, 1 fight a year is what can be expected for fighters going past 12 rounds. This also opens the door for fighters to 'bore' it up in the first half knowing they have a few more rounds to try and land that miracle combination. Less pressure on the fighters to perform. As far as the draws, it should be the fighter's job to ensure that contoversy does not rear its ugly head.
Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts
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Originally Posted by MistaDibbs
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
I'd support 13 round title fights its just one more round. But a lot of supersticious (F*** that word it is too hard to spell) people would object.
For the sake of safety, I would endorse this idea for fights that require a 'tie-breaking' round. If 12 calls it, no need to go the distance. Even if safety wasn't an issue, those extra 9 minutes of fighting will result in an increased time necessary for rest between fights meaning less fights in a given amount of time. Unless you're an early KO artist, 1 fight a year is what can be expected for fighters going past 12 rounds.
This also opens the door for fighters to 'bore' it up in the first half knowing they have a few more rounds to try and land that miracle combination. Less pressure on the fighters to perform.
As far as the draws, it should be the fighter's job to ensure that contoversy does not rear its ugly head.
??? Shouldn't it then also be the fighters job to stay busy during the course of the fight wether its 15 rounds or 3?
Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
11 is a joke 13 is the bare minimum for a title shot. You're fighting for the most historical titles in sports history. You know the risk you take when you enter the ring or step onto the football field. Thats why it pays so much because you never know when you won't be able to do it anymore.
Do you know what I have for cartilege in my nose?
I dont
I have the main bone and not much else
Want to know what my knees sound like on a humid day?
Like a bag full of dice
Want to know how I react when any of my fighters,fight?
I puke,nerves just get to me
Im still trying for a comeback at 37,nothing big,round the dirtball tracks
All for your amusment
But apparently thats not enough for you
We should die,or talk like bathering idiots,all so assholes like Don King can take every single penny WE earned
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No one very force anybody else to box or put their body on the line. Boxers choose to be boxers and soldiers choose to be soldiers. They're bravery should be comended but in no way should they complain about something they did to themselves.
Re: Bring back 15 round world title bouts
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by MistaDibbs
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
I'd support 13 round title fights its just one more round. But a lot of supersticious (F*** that word it is too hard to spell) people would object.
For the sake of safety, I would endorse this idea for fights that require a 'tie-breaking' round. If 12 calls it, no need to go the distance. Even if safety wasn't an issue, those extra 9 minutes of fighting will result in an increased time necessary for rest between fights meaning less fights in a given amount of time. Unless you're an early KO artist, 1 fight a year is what can be expected for fighters going past 12 rounds.
This also opens the door for fighters to 'bore' it up in the first half knowing they have a few more rounds to try and land that miracle combination. Less pressure on the fighters to perform.
As far as the draws, it should be the fighter's job to ensure that contoversy does not rear its ugly head.
??? Shouldn't it then also be the fighters job to stay busy during the course of the fight wether its 15 rounds or 3?
Anybody that knows boxing knows the boxers. Neither the boring ones (making boring fights) nor the exciting ones (where anything can happen) really need to be put in the ring for longer than necessary. Who wants to watch a boring fight, much less expect an exciting fight to go the distance? There have been more TITLE fights that I wish would have been stopped at the 7th round than those that went the distance. For every match you'd want to see 15 rounds of, there are others that should have ended early.
