Re: Calzaghe ready to take on kessler in Copenhagen for 5 mill
i think calzaghe would be stupid to go there. he would need to kill him to win, he aint go tthe power to score a KO anymore anmd wont get the decision. Kessler has done EVERY thign they can to get the fight on thier terms to get the win... people have slated joe, but if he does go there it would be silly imo
Re: Calzaghe ready to take on kessler in Copenhagen for 5 mill
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Originally Posted by gudnite vienna
yeh but a preformance like he had against Lacy against any oppenent in the world at that weight would end in a Calzaghe win????
Do u not agree jangeorge
Yes,but like i said,Kessler isn't an another Lacy,Kessler will not just stand and get hit like Lacy,it will be a different fight than Calzaghe vs Lacy
Do you not agree ;D
Re: Calzaghe ready to take on kessler in Copenhagen for 5 mill
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Originally Posted by gudnite vienna
yeh but a preformance like he had against Lacy against any oppenent in the world at that weight would end in a Calzaghe win????
Do u not agree jangeorge
Yes,but like i said,Kessler isn't an another Lacy,Kessler will not just stand and get hit like Lacy,it will be a different fight than Calzaghe vs Lacy
Do you not agree ;D
Agreed with Jangeorg i used to think you was silly when you said Kessler could beat Calzaghe but after watching Kessler more and more the more i realize that Kessler will give Calzaghe bad problems he has good skills quick hands and good workrate and as far as i know good chin and with Calzaghes bad hands i would give Kessler the edge i mean if Calzaghe broke his hands hardly landing anything against Manfredo what will happen against Kessler is the question ??
Re: Calzaghe ready to take on kessler in Copenhagen for 5 mill
True, Kessler is'nt very tolerant of getting hit! And lacey was a good bit shorter, Kessler/Calzaghe would be of a pretty similar build so this fight could take the best out of each guy and therefore out of th supermiddleweight division
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Originally Posted by Preme
i think calzaghe would be stupid to go there. he would need to kill him to win, he aint go tthe power to score a KO anymore anmd wont get the decision. Kessler has done EVERY thign they can to get the fight on thier terms to get the win... people have slated joe, but if he does go there it would be silly imo
The Manfredo fight wasn't pretty either in terms of judging
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i think calzaghe would be stupid to go there. he would need to kill him to win, he aint go tthe power to score a KO anymore anmd wont get the decision. Kessler has done EVERY thign they can to get the fight on thier terms to get the win... people have slated joe, but if he does go there it would be silly imo
The Manfredo fight wasn't pretty either in terms of judging
what judging - it ended in round 3? the hell you on about?
and if your on about the ref stopping it to early then yeah id o agree, but there are rules that would back the ref up, was it to early yeah - but lets not forget, the beating calzaghe give lacy, the ref could of stopepd it a shit load of times and no one would of said jack but didn't, that was a fuck up by a ref not some bullshit home town christ you make it out like young pete had a chance and the ref screwed him.
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i think calzaghe would be stupid to go there. he would need to kill him to win, he aint go tthe power to score a KO anymore anmd wont get the decision. Kessler has done EVERY thign they can to get the fight on thier terms to get the win... people have slated joe, but if he does go there it would be silly imo
The Manfredo fight wasn't pretty either in terms of judging
what judging - it ended in round 3? the hell you on about?
and if your on about the ref stopping it to early then yeah id o agree, but there are rules that would back the ref up, was it to early yeah - but lets not forget, the beating calzaghe give lacy, the ref could of stopepd it a S*** load of times and no one would of said jack but didn't, that was a F*** up by a ref not some bullshit home town christ you make it out like young pete had a chance and the ref screwed him.
The Calzaghe camp would worry that they could get one of the dubious decisions that (righly or wrongly) Germany and Italy are so renowned for. They would see Denmark as being the same - very stupid, but I bet that's how they'll view it... cos this fight is going the distance no matter who wins it.And the same will The Kessler camp think,if the fight was in UK
Re: Calzaghe ready to take on kessler in Copenhagen for 5 mill
cool , calzaghe will win but at least he is finally fighting someone that we want
Re: Calzaghe ready to take on kessler in Copenhagen for 5 mill
This will be a true test of how good joe calzaghe really is, to most people.
Re: Calzaghe ready to take on kessler in Copenhagen for 5 mill
I like joe but I think people will just call kessler a hyped up nobody if he gets beat which I think he will and people will go back to bashing cal as someone who fights bums. Altho like the rest of the posters I'll actually believe this is happening when I see the two in the ring
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Agreed with Jangeorg i used to think you was silly when you said Kessler could beat Calzaghe but after watching Kessler more and more the more i realize that Kessler will give Calzaghe bad problems he has good skills quick hands and good workrate and as far as i know good chin and with Calzaghes bad hands i would give Kessler the edge i mean if Calzaghe broke his hands hardly landing anything against Manfredo what will happen against Kessler is the question ??
I on the other hand don't agree. The more I have seen Calzaghe fight the more I think his workrate will give Kessler trouble, so if it goes the distance I am afraid that Calzaghw will take the victory on points, but I also think that Kessler has a good change on a TKO, I'm confident that Calzaghw cant take the power of Kessler combos if Kessler is able to hit him with them, and on the psychological level I will give the edge to Kessler I am not sure that Calzaghe really want to fight Kessler. But as it has turned out Kessler looks like the only choice for a opponent now. Unless Warren pulls a new Manfredo on the Calzaghe fans. An yes I will be there as well. IF IT HAPPENS.
Re: Calzaghe ready to take on kessler in Copenhagen for 5 mill
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i think calzaghe would be stupid to go there. he would need to kill him to win, he aint go tthe power to score a KO anymore anmd wont get the decision. Kessler has done EVERY thign they can to get the fight on thier terms to get the win... people have slated joe, but if he does go there it would be silly imo
The Manfredo fight wasn't pretty either in terms of judging
what judging - it ended in round 3? the hell you on about?
and if your on about the ref stopping it to early then yeah id o agree, but there are rules that would back the ref up, was it to early yeah - but lets not forget, the beating calzaghe give lacy, the ref could of stopepd it a S*** load of times and no one would of said jack but didn't, that was a F*** up by a ref not some bullshit home town christ you make it out like young pete had a chance and the ref screwed him.
The Calzaghe camp would worry that they could get one of the dubious decisions that (righly or wrongly) Germany and Italy are so renowned for. They would see Denmark as being the same - very stupid, but I bet that's how they'll view it... cos this fight is going the distance no matter who wins it.And the same will The Kessler camp think,if the fight was in UK
British Judges are known around the world as some of the most bias, you have no pfoblem in Kessler fighting there. Double standard.
Re: Calzaghe ready to take on kessler in Copenhagen for 5 mill
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i'll believe it when the sound of the first bell rings ???
Agreed Calzaghes back could go
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That'd be 2008 FOTY candidate.
What? From what jangeorg's writing they're going to clash in the autumn of 2007. FOTY isn't judged along with the football season is it?
Anyhow...i was intrigued by the mention of this article yesterday, but couldn't find any reference to it in any of the English media, or translated sites.
However, it seems the Mogens Palle is now trying to throw obstacles in the way. Frank says they've accepted the offer, surely that is end of story. But Palle is now saying there are a lot of things to iron out. If it isn't one promoter it's the other. Personally I'd love a trip to Copanhagen to see the fight, but if it's made i'd like to see them insist on an impartial international row of judges and referee, neither from Denmark or Britain. After the farce in the first Cunningham/Wlodarczyk fights just to name one, it has to be 100% transparent.
Either way....I have an agreement with friends that wherever it would be held, we're going. And I've heard good things about Copanhagen as a party city, even if it is quite expensive.
Re: Calzaghe ready to take on kessler in Copenhagen for 5 mill
Well if the titles is on the line the judges are appointed by the boxing federations. So I don“t think it will be a big problem. But one thing is for sure, there will allways be an home advantage. I hate to see a good fight spoiled by crooked judges.