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You got me Hulk, gymnasts make me hot. ::** I just think you underestimate top wrestlers overall strength and their technique. I mentioned Ken's experience in Pancrase only b/c he was an accomplished fighter and wouldn't be intimidated....Do you really think just boxing prepares someone for a MMA fight? I wouldn't count Mike out in the first UFC but I wouldn't be ready to just hand it to him either.
Thats fair. But I would pick Tyson without hesitation back then.Quote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
I used to wrestle in highschool. They are the strongest pound for pound. Gives you one hell of a neck too.Quote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
If you watched the first UFCs Gracie had a crazy shot that could take down just about anybody even Tysons size and once on the ground Royce would have him wrapped up
*sigh*
Still think tyson would have been subbed into oblivion in the first UFC by Monsieur Gracie
I am no expert - just an armchair fan - but completely agree with that!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Munky
Plus i also know what a big tyson fan you are big fella ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Munky
I wrestled in high school and boxed in the Army, and I say Severn, Shamrock or Gracie would have beaten Tyson in the first 3 minutes.
Unless they tried to stand up with him, of course.
I actually think that Tyson would have had a really good chance of winning UFC 1. He's stocky and looks like he'd be hard to take down. If you think Tyson hits hard with 12 oz. boxing gloves I'd love to see the damage he'd do with no gloves.
Gracie's hardest win before retiring from the UFC was against Kimo, simply because of his strenth, and the only reason he won is because of all the hair pulling he did. Another what if situation, but damn wouldn't it be fun to watch. :lickish:
How would they shoot in and try to take him down without eating either hand. Just a glancing shot from him could knock a man out cold. A flush one could possibly kill a man.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegasMMAfan
I agree. Mike Tyson would have completely destroyed any and every opponent in the original UFC's.
He'd probably lay waste to practically all the upstart UFC fighters today barring the top guys we see on TV now who are well versed in takedowns and massively outsize him.
Lmfao, hulk. You sound like a kid waiting for Santa with cookies and milk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Lol @ Bruce Li winning the UFC. What are you basing this off of exactly bruh? Enter the Dragon don't count.
Man old Brucie would have gone lights out against a world class pro kickboxer, MMA or boxer no doubt. He'd be hard pressed to beat any world class amateur or serious pro.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaLmfao, hulk. You sound like a kid waiting for Santa with cookies and milk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Lol @ Bruce Li winning the UFC. What are you basing this off of exactly bruh? Enter the Dragon don't count.
I'm talking lb for lb here too!
If Royce got a hold of him he would have gotten tapped out just like all the other guys with no grappling experience.