Re: What Could Oscar Do Better In The Rematch With Floyd ??
I really think ODH had the formula to win, but didn't execute it all the way through. This time though I think you keep jabbing and lean on PBF alot, push him around, when he goes into his shell waiting for you to punch, you lean on him and push him backwards and then punch, no flurry's just a real hard body shot. Fight him like Hatton fought Tszyu. Mug him, don't let him use his speed. Run into him, keep coming forward and collide with him with your body and then punch. Gotta really make it rough, not just say you're going to.
That strategy from a bigger guy can beat PBF. And I don't think PBF hurt ODH with any shot. He got some respect, but ODH wasn't hurt. He didn't wobble him, he hit him good, but ODH still came forward and wasn't hurt. The body shot in the 10th caught him off guard and ODH felt it but was never hurt or in danger. And PBF didn't even attempt to follow up with those.
The stamina thing with ODH is silly. It's not like the guy crumbles. He just doesn't fight at the same speed he did in early rounds. His stamina isn't suspect, he just goes harder in early rounds. It's like a runner, some coast early and finish strong, some start fast and coast to the finish. It was really annoying to hear all the commentators talking about ODH's stamina. He's never completley gassed out. Against Mosley the 2nd fight it wasn't stamina, it was Mosley's hard body shots the whole fight.
Overall, I would rather see Mosley fight PBF though. To me Mosley is what Floyd could be if he had any balls. Mosley fights to win and wants to land punches not dodge them. PBF wastes his talent in my opinion by being too defensive. PBF needs a mean streak.
Re: What Could Oscar Do Better In The Rematch With Floyd ??
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
I really think ODH had the formula to win, but didn't execute it all the way through. This time though I think you keep jabbing and lean on PBF alot, push him around, when he goes into his shell waiting for you to punch, you lean on him and push him backwards and then punch, no flurry's just a real hard body shot. Fight him like Hatton fought Tszyu. Mug him, don't let him use his speed. Run into him, keep coming forward and collide with him with your body and then punch. Gotta really make it rough, not just say you're going to.
That strategy from a bigger guy can beat PBF. And I don't think PBF hurt ODH with any shot. He got some respect, but ODH wasn't hurt. He didn't wobble him, he hit him good, but ODH still came forward and wasn't hurt. The body shot in the 10th caught him off guard and ODH felt it but was never hurt or in danger. And PBF didn't even attempt to follow up with those.
The stamina thing with ODH is silly. It's not like the guy crumbles. He just doesn't fight at the same speed he did in early rounds. His stamina isn't suspect, he just goes harder in early rounds. It's like a runner, some coast early and finish strong, some start fast and coast to the finish. It was really annoying to hear all the commentators talking about ODH's stamina. He's never completley gassed out. Against Mosley the 2nd fight it wasn't stamina, it was Mosley's hard body shots the whole fight.
Overall, I would rather see Mosley fight PBF though. To me Mosley is what Floyd could be if he had any balls. Mosley fights to win and wants to land punches not dodge them. PBF wastes his talent in my opinion by being too defensive. PBF needs a mean streak.
:coolclick: I agree his stamina problems are overplayed slightly. He's not like Cory Spinks who is often completely out on his feet.
He still put Ike Quartey down in the final round.
Re: What Could Oscar Do Better In The Rematch With Floyd ??
Oscar has showed good to average stamina in past he showed good stamina in Quartey and Vargas fight where he had very good spells in both fights late and then theres his stamina problems with Tito but i think anyone would be tired after all that running he was doing he has showed in few fights that his stamina let him down but overall his stamina is decent and in some fights its really good it just depends how hard Oscar works on his stamina or what kind of cardio work he does.
Re: What Could Oscar Do Better In The Rematch With Floyd ??
I guess the obvious answer is WIN. :P
But i agree with CMM i can't see how DLH could do any better and now that PBF has had a good look at DLH it's more likely that he would dominate a rematch. I personally don't feel the need for one, Floyd won, he beat him, it's over, time to move on and focus on the current fighters in their prime who can give us truly exciting fights (IMO).
Re: What Could Oscar Do Better In The Rematch With Floyd ??
Use the Jab a lot more than he did in the first fight! Work on the stamina, it's always been a problem with DLH and no doubt the Floyd camp knew it too. He must be more aggressive early (what was that first round all about?) I'm not sure he would do any better! I think PBF would win again.
Re: What Could Oscar Do Better In The Rematch With Floyd ??
What Could Oscar Do Better In The Rematch With Floyd ??
Nothing...scratch that...he could call up Harry Potter or one of dem junior wizards or witches for some kinda youth potion.
Seriously though...that fight wasn't nearly as close as most Oscar fans/Floyd haters said it was. Things sounded & looked a lot different from ringside than most televisionists thought & saw...really. Floyd let Oscar do a lot more than Oscar did...if that makes any sense.
Floyd got past the jab & all the flurri-less flurries.
Oscar of old MIGHT have been able to contend with Floyd...but the rematch will still be the same...after the rematch...then the chump ass governing bodies can demand the rubber match so that Oscar can lose once again to set up the Floyd vs Mosley match...after that loss for Mosley...
Well...the world can begin the hunt for the next big loser. ;D
Re: What Could Oscar Do Better In The Rematch With Floyd ??
The best thing Oscar could do, is not show up. We all know he wants money, he can't beat Floyd, so why not get a big check fighting Tito, and trying to avenge his loss. Priod.
Re: What Could Oscar Do Better In The Rematch With Floyd ??
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
What Could Oscar Do Better In The Rematch With Floyd ??
Nothing...scratch that...he could call up Harry Potter or one of dem junior wizards or witches for some kinda youth potion.
Seriously though...that fight wasn't nearly as close as most Oscar fans/Floyd haters said it was. Things sounded & looked a lot different from ringside than most televisionists thought & saw...really. Floyd let Oscar do a lot more than Oscar did...if that makes any sense.
Floyd got past the jab & all the flurri-less flurries.
Oscar of old MIGHT have been able to contend with Floyd...but the rematch will still be the same...after the rematch...then the chump ass governing bodies can demand the rubber match so that Oscar can lose once again to set up the Floyd vs Mosley match...after that loss for Mosley...
Well...the world can begin the hunt for the next big loser. ;D
Thought the fight was a bit flat in my opinion , nobody really taking charge of the match .. Oscar seemed to bully Mayweather for portions of the fight. and when Oscar tired in spots that’s when Mayweather came on , but there was nothing sizzling about the match. It was slightly above average . nothing more, nothing less. .. the fight was closely contested from my vantage point. after watching it on T.V. I still feel that Oscar won however the lack of the Delahoya jab kept Floyd in the hunt. When Oscar did throw the jab the fight was easy for him.. Why Oscar abandoned that weapon is beyond me. ?
. If I remember correctly there were chants from the crowd of "Bullshit" roaring in the background after the decision was announced in favor of Mayweather. just my humble opinion ! O0
Re: What Could Oscar Do Better In The Rematch With Floyd ??
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
I really think ODH had the formula to win, but didn't execute it all the way through. This time though I think you keep jabbing and lean on PBF alot, push him around, when he goes into his shell waiting for you to punch, you lean on him and push him backwards and then punch, no flurry's just a real hard body shot. Fight him like Hatton fought Tszyu. Mug him, don't let him use his speed. Run into him, keep coming forward and collide with him with your body and then punch. Gotta really make it rough, not just say you're going to.
That strategy from a bigger guy can beat PBF. And I don't think PBF hurt ODH with any shot. He got some respect, but ODH wasn't hurt. He didn't wobble him, he hit him good, but ODH still came forward and wasn't hurt. The body shot in the 10th caught him off guard and ODH felt it but was never hurt or in danger. And PBF didn't even attempt to follow up with those.
The stamina thing with ODH is silly. It's not like the guy crumbles. He just doesn't fight at the same speed he did in early rounds. His stamina isn't suspect, he just goes harder in early rounds. It's like a runner, some coast early and finish strong, some start fast and coast to the finish. It was really annoying to hear all the commentators talking about ODH's stamina. He's never completley gassed out. Against Mosley the 2nd fight it wasn't stamina, it was Mosley's hard body shots the whole fight.
Overall, I would rather see Mosley fight PBF though. To me Mosley is what Floyd could be if he had any balls. Mosley fights to win and wants to land punches not dodge them. PBF wastes his talent in my opinion by being too defensive. PBF needs a mean streak.
:coolclick: nice post man
