Re: CALZAGHE FANS DON'T BE MAKING EXCUSES IF KESSLER BEATS HIM
he had to win a few times with broken hands and from what i can see it just stops hm going for a KO punch, he's still got speed and accuracy, just less power, broken hands will not stop him winning...
Re: CALZAGHE FANS DON'T BE MAKING EXCUSES IF KESSLER BEATS HIM
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Now im not a Calzaghe fan but if he beats Kessler i will hold my hands up and say Calzaghe is a great supermiddle champ i recognise Kessler as a really good supermiddle champ so if Calzaghe beats him their will be no excuses on my part hope you Calzaghe fans feel the same.
How can you expect anyone who has followed calzaghs in depth to not make an 'excuse' if he he losses in a close fight?
For someone to say he is washed up would be to far... but there are a few facts people will point and out and others need to understand.. it has been saidfor some time that his power is nothing compared to what it was and that is a massive thing to losse, his lack of sparring has resluted in IMO his timing not being as good as it could be as well... he will be pushing 36 by the time of his fight, and yet its ironic that you have said countless times about people calzaghe beat veing washed up when they were in the very very early 30's lol...
Joe isn't washed up that is true, and if kessler beats him its a damn good feat IMO but no way in hell is calzaghe the same fighter he was... he is right at the end of his career whislt kessler is bang on in his prime...
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Preme don't start with excuses before they fight ;D
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so hand on heart you think calzaghe is every bit as good now as he was in what other would consider his absolute prime? when he has great power, was sparring well, didn't break or hurt his handin 4 our of 5 fights?
and i have said this in other posts about other things long before this shit with kessler
Re: CALZAGHE FANS DON'T BE MAKING EXCUSES IF KESSLER BEATS HIM
Calzaghe is as good now as he was yes he has'nt really had any wars
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Now im not a Calzaghe fan but if he beats Kessler i will hold my hands up and say Calzaghe is a great supermiddle champ i recognise Kessler as a really good supermiddle champ so if Calzaghe beats him their will be no excuses on my part hope you Calzaghe fans feel the same.
How can you expect anyone who has followed calzaghs in depth to not make an 'excuse' if he he losses in a close fight?
For someone to say he is washed up would be to far... but there are a few facts people will point and out and others need to understand.. it has been saidfor some time that his power is nothing compared to what it was and that is a massive thing to losse, his lack of sparring has resluted in IMO his timing not being as good as it could be as well... he will be pushing 36 by the time of his fight, and yet its ironic that you have said countless times about people calzaghe beat veing washed up when they were in the very very early 30's lol...
Joe isn't washed up that is true, and if kessler beats him its a damn good feat IMO but no way in hell is calzaghe the same fighter he was... he is right at the end of his career whislt kessler is bang on in his prime...
Im surprised by this posting. ::**
I disagree to the furthest extreme. Calzaghe BEATS kessler....Calzaghe knows the hand may bust but a great fighter will adapt and finsh the fight...
If he doesnt think he can do it then a fight should not be signed and he should retire...
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Calzaghe is in no way stuill in his prime, that isn't even debatable IMO. He may not be punch drunk, he may still be able to take the hit he could in his prime..
but he has lost easily 50% of his power and that is MASSIVE hundreds and hundred sof rounds of sparring due to hand injuries and trying to pererve them...
So basicaly if kessler wins a close fight by one round - he ranks higher than calzaghe in the all time SMw list? does he fuck!
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Preme if Calzaghe gets beat he gets beat by 1 point or 10 points a win is a win you have been preaching how good he is for long enough don't start back peddling now ;)
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Preme if Calzaghe gets beat he gets beat by 1 point or 10 points a win is a win you have been preaching how good he is for long enough don't start back peddling now ;)
what are you on about? your posts make no sense... I have never posted or pretended calzaghe is anwhere close to being what he was in his prime... not long after the lacy fight, when people knew kessler only down to a guy called royal i was saying things then like "Imo lacy would not of lasted the full 1 had calzaghe been in his prime" in other posts for other reasons i have said numerous times about his power being nothing to what it was in posts that were nothign to do with hm fighting kessler.
Your posts are more fake than tits on the stripper who give me a lapdance on the weekend, seriously you just post bollax half the time mate when you can't back anything up with proper fact...
Not long ago you made a post asking if you were the only one who thought calzaghe was crap.. yet 5mins ago said had he fought g-man it would be a close fight... crap fighters don't have close fights with the g-man... you love woods and reid, reid lost who you agreed would be a close fight.. yet you said calzaghe was crap?
"you have been preaching how good he is for long enough don't start back peddling now ;)" You say preaching as if i am hell bent on making new topics about calzaghe? yet the question about him maybe being the best brit i made on the weekend was one of the very few i made about calzaghe... most of the time i post about him its to shut idiots like you up who are just haters for no real reason coz YOU are always contradicting your self with your senseless posts... or i enjoy chatting abouy hyperthetical 'what if fights' and as you should know they are considered prime for prime, and as such have no relevence as to what a fighter is doing NOW
You swear like i argue calaghe should be top 3 p4p in the world and am saying if kessler wins its a bullshit win and means nothing...
I alreayd said kessler wins i give him alot of respect, the fact if he wins by a very close margin that i would quite possibly pose the question about calzaghe being almost 36, shot hands, shotpower and very little sparring over the last 7 or years is hardly anythign unfair imo... i have seen fighters get dissrepescted for wins for far far less than that.
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Ok then Preme whatever mate your just a gobshite and the thing that did the lapdance for you was probably a lady boy ;) ;D
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Preme if Calzaghe gets beat he gets beat by 1 point or 10 points a win is a win you have been preaching how good he is for long enough don't start back peddling now ;)
what are you on about? your posts make no sense... I have never posted or pretended calzaghe is anwhere close to being what he was in his prime... not long after the lacy fight, when people knew kessler only down to a guy called royal i was saying things then like "Imo lacy would not of lasted the full 1 had calzaghe been in his prime" in other posts for other reasons i have said numerous times about his power being nothing to what it was in posts that were nothign to do with hm fighting kessler.
Your posts are more fake than tits on the stripper who give me a lapdance on the weekend, seriously you just post bollax half the time mate when you can't back anything up with proper fact...
Not long ago you made a post asking if you were the only one who thought calzaghe was crap.. yet 5mins ago said had he fought g-man it would be a close fight... crap fighters don't have close fights with the g-man... you love woods and reid, reid lost who you agreed would be a close fight.. yet you said calzaghe was crap?
"you have been preaching how good he is for long enough don't start back peddling now ;)" You say preaching as if i am hell bent on making new topics about calzaghe? yet the question about him maybe being the best brit i made on the weekend was one of the very few i made about calzaghe... most of the time i post about him its to shut idiots like you up who are just haters for no real reason coz YOU are always contradicting your self with your senseless posts... or i enjoy chatting abouy hyperthetical 'what if fights' and as you should know they are considered prime for prime, and as such have no relevence as to what a fighter is doing NOW
You swear like i argue calaghe should be top 3 p4p in the world and am saying if kessler wins its a bullshit win and means nothing...
I alreayd said kessler wins i give him alot of respect, the fact if he wins by a very close margin that i would quite possibly pose the question about calzaghe being almost 36, shot hands, shotpower and very little sparring over the last 7 or years is hardly anythign unfair imo... i have seen fighters get dissrepescted for wins for far far less than that.
Dude you took what sounded like a joke comment way too personally imo. :sadclick: #84. The board aint about stupid insults.
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im no calzaghe fan but dont think kessler will beat him.
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Preme if Calzaghe gets beat he gets beat by 1 point or 10 points a win is a win you have been preaching how good he is for long enough don't start back peddling now ;)
what are you on about? your posts make no sense... I have never posted or pretended calzaghe is anwhere close to being what he was in his prime... not long after the lacy fight, when people knew kessler only down to a guy called royal i was saying things then like "Imo lacy would not of lasted the full 1 had calzaghe been in his prime" in other posts for other reasons i have said numerous times about his power being nothing to what it was in posts that were nothign to do with hm fighting kessler.
Your posts are more fake than tits on the stripper who give me a lapdance on the weekend, seriously you just post bollax half the time mate when you can't back anything up with proper fact...
Not long ago you made a post asking if you were the only one who thought calzaghe was crap.. yet 5mins ago said had he fought g-man it would be a close fight... crap fighters don't have close fights with the g-man... you love woods and reid, reid lost who you agreed would be a close fight.. yet you said calzaghe was crap?
"you have been preaching how good he is for long enough don't start back peddling now ;)" You say preaching as if i am hell bent on making new topics about calzaghe? yet the question about him maybe being the best brit i made on the weekend was one of the very few i made about calzaghe... most of the time i post about him its to shut idiots like you up who are just haters for no real reason coz YOU are always contradicting your self with your senseless posts... or i enjoy chatting abouy hyperthetical 'what if fights' and as you should know they are considered prime for prime, and as such have no relevence as to what a fighter is doing NOW
You swear like i argue calaghe should be top 3 p4p in the world and am saying if kessler wins its a bullshit win and means nothing...
I alreayd said kessler wins i give him alot of respect, the fact if he wins by a very close margin that i would quite possibly pose the question about calzaghe being almost 36, shot hands, shotpower and very little sparring over the last 7 or years is hardly anythign unfair imo... i have seen fighters get dissrepescted for wins for far far less than that.
Dude you took what sounded like a joke comment way too personally imo. :sadclick: #84. The board aint about stupid insults.
Ignore him Bzkfn he's just mardy he's Calzaghe crazy you can't say anything negative about Calzaghe to him or he goes off like this he needs councelling ;D