Re: How highly would Mayweather be rated if he accomplishes the following feat?
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
he'd still not probably make top 10..because no matter what any new era fighter does he will never be placed in the top ten...because for some reason nothings ever good enough..whereas the old school fighter get all these excuses and their records and opposition aren't as throughly picked apart like the new guys...
back then amazingly everyone was a contender and a great mark on a champions record,
now its "well he's a bum, he's a bum, oh he won an alphabet belt, he's not a real contender, he was overmatched any way, he didn't belong in the ring, so what he beat an undefeated contender"
floyd would have to beat cotto (but he's too green)
..................................mosley (he's too old)
..............................margarito (he was just a big gatti)
..............................hatton (he was one dimensional,too small)
..............................paul williams (too green and overrated)
..............................winky (too slow and plodding)
.............................bhop( he finally got old)
then floyd loses to one of the klitschkos and its you see I told you he wasn't that great.....floyd couldn't do enough to ever be considered top 10..and top 5 is just insane not because he isn't deserving but just because he's born in an era where the majority is never satisfied...he fight 80 more times and still it wouldn't be enough....
but that's just my opinion..right now i think he's top 20 if he beats mosley @ 147 then i'd put in top 10
It seems like he'll never get credit. I feel ya on that one.
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
He'll be rated a lot higher in 20 years time. Every great fighter's legend grows the longer they have been out of the ring.
We talk about guys like Leonard, Hearns and Duran as if they are almost God like but there is no reason to think that if these guys fought today, and against the same fighters as Floyd that they would all be undefeated.
De La Hoya would have proved troublemsome, especially for Duran, Judah also.
Plus all three of these guys were naturally a lot bigger than Floyd who started out as a superfeatherweight.
It's unfair to make direct comparisons between them and him.
Yes. 20 years from now, he'll be rated higher. That's just how it goes.
Re: How highly would Mayweather be rated if he accomplishes the following feat?
When Floyd moved to light welter, Hatton, Cotto and Tszyu were making all the noise. He fought none of them! If he fought any one of them I would never consider posting this.
If he fights Cotto soon that would be great, Mosley is past his best and Margarito is not as good as so many people keep saying.
Re: How highly would Mayweather be rated if he accomplishes the following feat?
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Originally Posted by Kel
When Floyd moved to light welter, Hatton, Cotto and Tszyu were making all the noise. He fought none of them! If he fought any one of them I would never consider posting this.
If he fights Cotto soon that would be great, Mosley is past his best and Margarito is not as good as so many people keep saying.
Judah is arguably Cotto best opponent so far in his career, Hatton didn't want the fight & Tszyu was in semi-retirement. If Cotto beats both Judah & the winner of Margarito/ Williams then he will indeed be great opponent. Back then he was still trying to make his name!
Re: How highly would Mayweather be rated if he accomplishes the following feat?
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
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Originally Posted by Kel
When Floyd moved to light welter, Hatton, Cotto and Tszyu were making all the noise. He fought none of them! If he fought any one of them I would never consider posting this.
If he fights Cotto soon that would be great, Mosley is past his best and Margarito is not as good as so many people keep saying.
Judah is arguably Cotto best opponent so far in his career, Hatton didn't want the fight & Tszyu was in semi-retirement. If Cotto beats both Judah & the winner of Margarito/ Williams then he will indeed be great opponent. Back then he was still trying to make his name!
Tszyu was in semi-retirement?
Re: How highly would Mayweather be rated if he accomplishes the following feat?
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Originally Posted by BigMix27
1. Defeats Mosely
2. Defeats Margarito
3. Defeats Cotto
All in consecutive order then retires. How high would he be ranked? Can he be a top 5 all time great?
Depends on a number of variables...
How convincingly does he defeat them?
How impressive do those fighters look before/after they fight Floyd?
For example, if Cotto barely scrapes by Judah, a Floyd victory over Cotto doesn't look as impressive as it would if Cotto destroys Judah in a couple rounds.
My general stance is that if Floyd cleans out 147 over the next 3 or 4 fights, he'll be at least Top 20 all-time.
Re: How highly would Mayweather be rated if he accomplishes the following feat?
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by BigMix27
1. Defeats Mosely
2. Defeats Margarito
3. Defeats Cotto
All in consecutive order then retires. How high would he be ranked? Can he be a top 5 all time great?
Depends on a number of variables...
How convincingly does he defeat them?
How impressive do those fighters look before/after they fight Floyd?
For example, if Cotto barely scrapes by Judah, a Floyd victory over Cotto doesn't look as impressive as it would if Cotto destroys Judah in a couple rounds.
My general stance is that if Floyd cleans out 147 over the next 3 or 4 fights, he'll be at least Top 20 all-time.
I agree with that mate. But can you see him cleaning out the 147 division?
Re: How highly would Mayweather be rated if he accomplishes the following feat?
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
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Originally Posted by Kel
When Floyd moved to light welter, Hatton, Cotto and Tszyu were making all the noise. He fought none of them! If he fought any one of them I would never consider posting this.
If he fights Cotto soon that would be great, Mosley is past his best and Margarito is not as good as so many people keep saying.
Judah is arguably Cotto best opponent so far in his career, Hatton didn't want the fight & Tszyu was in semi-retirement. If Cotto beats both Judah & the winner of Margarito/ Williams then he will indeed be great opponent. Back then he was still trying to make his name!
Tszyu was in semi-retirement?
He hadn't fought since surrendering to Hatton!
Re: How highly would Mayweather be rated if he accomplishes the following feat?
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Originally Posted by BigMix27
1. Defeats Mosely
2. Defeats Margarito
3. Defeats Cotto
All in consecutive order then retires. How high would he be ranked? Can he be a top 5 all time great?
Mayweather won't do it... Fight them all.
Re: How highly would Mayweather be rated if he accomplishes the following feat?
the only person floyd need to fight is mosley..cotto,williams,margarito would all be torn up by floyd....
Re: How highly would Mayweather be rated if he accomplishes the following feat?
i would put him in top 15 of all time if he got thos wins
Re: How highly would Mayweather be rated if he accomplishes the following feat?
Every division he has moved up into he has fought the number 1 of that division he has beaten some good fighters and made them look average he is a 5 weight champ and a 6 time champ not alot left to prove perhaps he is already top 10 or perhaps 11 at worst.
Re: How highly would Mayweather be rated if he accomplishes the following feat?
if hatton can knnock out jc then the only fight flloyd needs imo is ricky. cotto and the others r unproven, hatton would have then taken kostya and castillo, but i feel unless hatton fdights flloys before this time nx yr hes gnna b to old
Re: How highly would Mayweather be rated if he accomplishes the following feat?
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
he'd still not probably make top 10..because no matter what any new era fighter does he will never be placed in the top ten...because for some reason nothings ever good enough..whereas the old school fighter get all these excuses and their records and opposition aren't as throughly picked apart like the new guys...
back then amazingly everyone was a contender and a great mark on a champions record,
now its "well he's a bum, he's a bum, oh he won an alphabet belt, he's not a real contender, he was overmatched any way, he didn't belong in the ring, so what he beat an undefeated contender"
floyd would have to beat cotto (but he's too green)
..................................mosley (he's too old)
..............................margarito (he was just a big gatti)
..............................hatton (he was one dimensional,too small)
..............................paul williams (too green and overrated)
..............................winky (too slow and plodding)
.............................bhop( he finally got old)
then floyd loses to one of the klitschkos and its you see I told you he wasn't that great.....floyd couldn't do enough to ever be considered top 10..and top 5 is just insane not because he isn't deserving but just because he's born in an era where the majority is never satisfied...he fight 80 more times and still it wouldn't be enough....
but that's just my opinion..right now i think he's top 20 if he beats mosley @ 147 then i'd put in top 10
I always felt Floyd was ducking the Klitschko's! Finally somebody else said it. ;D
Re: How highly would Mayweather be rated if he accomplishes the following feat?
Cotto is too slow, Magarito has not fought anyone IMO and I think Mosely would beat floyd. I do not think that floyd can handle the heat that mosely still brings. Shane is just as fast as pbf but shane hits much harder. I dont see shane standing around waiting to be hit. I see shane by KO! But we all know PBF dont want none of that!
Re: How highly would Mayweather be rated if he accomplishes the following feat?
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Every division he has moved up into he has fought the number 1 of that division he has beaten some good fighters and made them look average he is a 5 weight champ and a 6 time champ not alot left to prove perhaps he is already top 10 or perhaps 11 at worst.
When was Gatti rated number 1 at 140??
