In Your Opinions What Is The Best Martial Arts To Learn For A Beginner ??

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Originally Posted by DarkDestroyer

I am from the small but beautyful country of The Netherlands(also known as Holland) in Europe

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Ahh i have known few Dutch people friendly guys normally you guys speak english well you learn it like from 10 don't you ??

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Originally Posted by DarkDestroyer

I am from the small but beautyful country of The Netherlands(also known as Holland) in Europe

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Got some great Players have come out Holland. Judo Bond Nederland is the olympic governing body isn't it?

Yes, Ww learn english from 10 years on and others like french and german in high school(12 years and on)
Also optional are spanish,and latin

Yeah, a couple of olympic champions and world champions.
Such as Anton Geesink who first broke trough the dominance of the japanese to win gold at the Tokyo olimpics

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Originally Posted by DarkDestroyer

Yeah, a couple of olympic champions and world champions.
Such as Anton Geesink who first broke trough the dominance of the japanese to win gold at the Tokyo olimpics

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Dude stick around. I think i am the only Judoka that posts regularly on the MMA forum.

Judo is coming more to the forefront in MMA so its good to see. I haven't trained in a while since arthritis has caught up with me a bit but hoping to get back into it in the next couple of months.

I will stick around Munky
Always a pleasure to speak with a fellow judoka
CC in 24 hours for all you guys

We learn French at 12 but i sucked at it forgot all words ;D

moi too ;D
Thank God it's optional

Just came back from france.

It rained the whole frigging week

Boxing and jiu jitsu/BJJ will give you all the skills you need. Judo and Sambo are good too. But I'd use those techniques more as a supplemetary type deal. Excellent throws in both though.

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Originally Posted by Brockton Bomber

Boxing and jiu jitsu/BJJ will give you all the skills you need. Judo and Sambo are good too. But I'd use those techniques more as a supplemetary type deal. Excellent throws in both though.

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See Brockton i would have to disagree a bit there mate. From a self defence perspective you want to keep the fight standing. In a bar fight or protecting yourself from some scumbag then the ground is the last place you want to be. Even if the guy hasnt got any mates who want to jump on your head whilst you are trying to get the guy in a omoplata then some bystander who isn't involved will often try to play soccer with your head. (unless of course its an organised one on one) because thats what tends to happen when drink is involved.

The ground is the last place you want to be.

As i've said before. BJJ is a fantastic art and i respect it hugely. Its great in the octagon but on a cold saturday night outside a burger joint with piss and broken glass on the floor it will be found wanting. Judo however will be your best friend. It has the throws to slam if your primary tools (striking) fail and if it does go to the ground we practice enough newaza (groundfighting) to nullify 99% of fools (unless you are unlucky enough to come up against a BJJ player). So many underestimate Judo newaza, its pretty explosve. No waiting in guard.

To be able to defend yourself properly you need a primary toolset and a secondary backup toolset should your primary fail.

Striking is primary but if your pre empt fails and the striking goes to ratshit and it ends in a clich or in clinching range. You want to get the F*** out of there and quick before it goes to the deck. Then you are in another whole world of S***.

I use boxing/combatives for striking and i've been a judoka for years, it just happens to be a fantastic support system and is porbably the best self defence art going (as a stand alone art.......then again i am slightly biased ;D ;D )

Thats why i asked at the beiginning what he wants to get out of it.

I agree with almost all of that. Being a former amatuer boxer, and being only semi-well versed in jiu jitsu, i would prefer to keep it off the ground. I realize the dangers of a guy's buddies doing the Mexican hat dance on my head if I go down. However I think the jiu jitsu is superior IF the fight goes there. You'll notice I mentioned judo and sambo as being excellent for throws. I just think that if he's new to the boxing/ma game, and he's already taking boxing, he'd probably be best served by striking at this point as opposed to executing judo throws which I can say from experience are a LOT more technical than they look. CC for being a judo advocate though.

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Originally Posted by Brockton Bomber

I agree with almost all of that. Being a former amatuer boxer, and being only semi-well versed in jiu jitsu, i would prefer to keep it off the ground. I realize the dangers of a guy's buddies doing the Mexican hat dance on my head if I go down. However I think the jiu jitsu is superior IF the fight goes there. You'll notice I mentioned judo and sambo as being excellent for throws. I just think that if he's new to the boxing/ma game, and he's already taking boxing, he'd probably be best served by striking at this point as opposed to executing judo throws which I can say from experience are a LOT more technical than they look. CC for being a judo advocate though.

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CC back mate :)

boxing on its own, 9 times out of 10, will make you a formidable opponent in any bar, all other things being roughly equal. A regular joe wouldn't even be able to touch you, while you pick your shots and pop away at his face...that's how improved you'll be with the ol' fistacuffs. Beyond that I'd add judo or wrestling which gives you the leverage skills in the clinch.

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Originally Posted by Von Milash

boxing on its own, 9 times out of 10, will make you a formidable opponent in any bar, all other things being roughly equal. A regular joe wouldn't even be able to touch you, while you pick your shots and pop away at his face...that's how improved you'll be with the ol' fistacuffs. Beyond that I'd add judo or wrestling which gives you the leverage skills in the clinch.

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Yea i was discussing this yesterday i know how to box im not making out im next world champ but im good enough to protect myself if i got in trouble and funny you said that because my cousin told me that 9/10 when you get into a fight its mostly against average joes like you said but still im going to start Judo soon aswell thanks for the advice fellas.